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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
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| That kid has spunk. |
lol ba-ZING
and that black actor doesn't speak for all black people. Just the people he grew up with. |
Maybe not, but he grew up in the ghetto that was like any other ghetto across the country and was immersed and embraced that culture. So I think he speaks enough for the culture for it to be relevant. He sure as hell knows a lot more about being black and living in the ghetto than you do username. Someone from Finland can speak about Finnish culture without living on every square inch of the country and be more accurate than you, can't they?
I hate the excuses people constantly give to explain why these people are like this as if they can't improve themselves. Economic and historical explanations are fine, but they are irrelevant really. The fact is, these people are proud of their 'hoods and proud that they are "hard" and not part of the man's system like all the suckers. Education is frowned upon while violence and crime is encouraged, and anyone who is wise enough to leave the ghetto or try to help clean it up is deemed a traitor by his peers and excommunicated.
If they really wanted to, no matter how poor and downtrodden they are, they could clean up their neighborhood. They could ostracize anyone who committed a crime or was arrested and applaud those who worked hard to get into college or improve themselves. They could stop doing drugs and stop fucking and stop creating more kids and more generations they don't want. But instead their culture is completely backward and embraces misery. They delight in being the violent dregs of society. Why?
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Andrew Man
Title: Is a Funklord
Joined: Jan 30 2007
Location: Annandale, VA
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| I just think it would have been smarter to use a bodily fluid that doesn't contain all of your genetic material in it, just in case the csi guys show up. |
Technically, wouldn't your genetic material be in any bodily fluid to a degree?
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Greg the White
Joined: Apr 09 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
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Wow, I came in here expecting the typical Sydlexia Forum Misogyny, but was refreshed to see racism come out. Way to keep things new and interesting.
Are you fucking serious? People come onto a news site, and saying that Nobama coming into the white house gives more freedom for mentally ill blacks to dump semen on white girls, and you say "They speak to some of the truths." Maybe being a good person some of you can go out to the corner and ostracize a few bloods for dealing on the corner and see what happens when they know where you live.
Being a person who grew up in poor-ass Jersey and poor-ass Pennsylvania, I've seen white, hispanic, and black poverty both up close and from afar. It's just as hard as it is to be a poor, white man working in one of the very few jobs in your Appalachian county, as it is to being a black kid harassed by gangs on the way home from your shitty Trenton school. Imagine your typical poor American getting some kind of minor crime on their record, and how hard it would be to get anything more than a burger-flipping job. Meanwhile, I know college student dealers with DUIs on their records working at accounting firms right now because daddy could pay the attorney fees.
The poor in this country are treated like shit anywhere, but blacks get the worst of the public view. Watch those Mao-esque working-man propaganda commercials you'll see on cable news channels. Fox News doesn't have commercials where they praise the working class, and show a black mother of 2 working at Carl's Jr. with no chance of advancement, just handsome-ass white male coal miners. On the other hand, someone says "welfare teat" and most people think "lazy blacks."
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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People just need to stop producing offspring. If people would stop popping out kids because they're too stupid to use birth control (or worse....are looking for more government handouts), the poverty situation all over the world would improve significantly.
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Pandajuice
Title: The Power of Grayskull
Joined: Oct 30 2008
Location: US and UK
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| Imagine your typical poor American getting some kind of minor crime on their record, and how hard it would be to get anything more than a burger-flipping job. |
Well, here's an easy fix for them: Don't commit even the most minor of crimes. Don't break the law, work hard, and escape that situation. Problem fucking solved.
Stop making excuses for them as if they are somehow trapped in their situation and being kept down by "the man" for no reason.
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Posts: 2747
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
| Greg the White wrote: |
| Imagine your typical poor American getting some kind of minor crime on their record, and how hard it would be to get anything more than a burger-flipping job. |
Well, here's an easy fix for them: Don't commit even the most minor of crimes. Don't break the law, work hard, and escape that situation. Problem fucking solved.
Stop making excuses for them as if they are somehow trapped in their situation and being kept down by "the man" for no reason. |
better yet, do them if you want but don't get caught! i grew up poor as shit (in pennsylvania, no less, greg) and i did a lot of bad stuff, but I wasnt a dumbass who got caught. and even if you do get in trouble and cant get a great job, community college is cheap. effort is the key, i dont care what your excuses are.
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Greg the White
Joined: Apr 09 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
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| Pandajuice wrote: |
| Greg the White wrote: |
| Imagine your typical poor American getting some kind of minor crime on their record, and how hard it would be to get anything more than a burger-flipping job. |
Well, here's an easy fix for them: Don't commit even the most minor of crimes. Don't break the law, work hard, and escape that situation. Problem fucking solved.
Stop making excuses for them as if they are somehow trapped in their situation and being kept down by "the man" for no reason. |
That's part of the whole thing, though. Maybe someone who regrets even committing a minor crime regrets it, and wants to "leave the ghetto." But he can't even get a job, because our rehabilitation sucks in this country. The problem is that the poor have such a worse place in life from birth compared to the rich, who can buy their way out of anything.
What liberals like me aren't asking for is for tax dollars to be put into checks for the poor. We're first asking for a little empathy, some understanding from even the most minor of haves to understand the lot in life of the have-nots. They can't just rise out of the ghetto when there aren't jobs. They can't get good scholarships unless they play sports, or they don't have rich parents to rub elbows for them, even assuming that their "No child"-bastardized schools even prepared them for some kind of post-diploma school. How can someone look at Bloomberg in New York focusing on schools, encouraging healthy diets, and convincing commerce to poor areas to the point where a blonde, lanky dude like me can walk through a sparkling, multiethnic Harlem without getting harassed and say "what's happening is wrong, we should have told the poor to go fuck themselves?"
It's empathy, not this new-age-Evangelist "fuck the poor, they're only poor cause they're lazy, dark-skinned criminals" crap that has helped the poor and disadvantaged minorities in impoverished areas. Go ahead, take one of my sentences out of context to fulfill your plans of saving the world through weeding out the darkies, I'll be busy working at my church's soup kitchen.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
Joined: Jul 06 2007
Location: phoenix, az usa
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i like this community... we went from talking about jizz to talking about education
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aeonic
Title: Sporadic Poster
Joined: Nov 19 2009
Location: Kissimmee, FL
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isn't that the general progression, username?
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Drew Linky
Wizard
Joined: Jun 12 2009
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| i like this community... we went from talking about jizz to talking about education |
Didn't I say this last night or something? Lol
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Ice2SeeYou
Title: Sexual Tyrannosaurus
Joined: Sep 28 2008
Location: South of Heaven
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| Greg the White wrote: |
| Pandajuice wrote: |
| Greg the White wrote: |
| Imagine your typical poor American getting some kind of minor crime on their record, and how hard it would be to get anything more than a burger-flipping job. |
Well, here's an easy fix for them: Don't commit even the most minor of crimes. Don't break the law, work hard, and escape that situation. Problem fucking solved.
Stop making excuses for them as if they are somehow trapped in their situation and being kept down by "the man" for no reason. |
That's part of the whole thing, though. Maybe someone who regrets even committing a minor crime regrets it, and wants to "leave the ghetto." But he can't even get a job, because our rehabilitation sucks in this country. The problem is that the poor have such a worse place in life from birth compared to the rich, who can buy their way out of anything.
What liberals like me aren't asking for is for tax dollars to be put into checks for the poor. We're first asking for a little empathy, some understanding from even the most minor of haves to understand the lot in life of the have-nots. They can't just rise out of the ghetto when there aren't jobs. They can't get good scholarships unless they play sports, or they don't have rich parents to rub elbows for them, even assuming that their "No child"-bastardized schools even prepared them for some kind of post-diploma school. How can someone look at Bloomberg in New York focusing on schools, encouraging healthy diets, and convincing commerce to poor areas to the point where a blonde, lanky dude like me can walk through a sparkling, multiethnic Harlem without getting harassed and say "what's happening is wrong, we should have told the poor to go fuck themselves?"
It's empathy, not this new-age-Evangelist "fuck the poor, they're only poor cause they're lazy, dark-skinned criminals" crap that has helped the poor and disadvantaged minorities in impoverished areas. Go ahead, take one of my sentences out of context to fulfill your plans of saving the world through weeding out the darkies, I'll be busy working at my church's soup kitchen. |
I agree with you in general. It's naive to assume that people born in ghettos have the same opportunities as the rest of us, and are simply choosing not to pursue them. I doubt many of us here have faced the possibility of getting shot while standing at the bus stop, or had to worry about getting stabbed because we got an A on a math test. I also think that a work ethic is something that is learned from one's parents, or other role model. Thus, if your parents don't work hard and take an interest in your schooling, odds are you won't have an interest either.
That said, people still need to take responsibility for their actions. Getting pregnant at 15 is no one's fault but your own. Getting arrested for performing a drive-by while on your way to a dog fight is also shows poor decision making.
In closing, I see both sides of this argument. More understanding by some and more acceptance of personal responsibility by others is the only way things will ever improve.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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Well said Ice2.
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