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Knyte
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2007 07:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

TGdaily, just did a 50 greastest Girls Of Gaming article. Almost all of the choices are from the PSX/N64 generation and up, which seems a little biased. Though, there were a few surprises in there. Check it out at:

http://www.twitchguru.com/2007/02/20/the_50_greatest_female_characters_in_the_history_of_video_games/index.html

Then come back and bitch about the choices.
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2007 07:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The fact that it's unordered makes it less fun to read and the ads in the middle of every page don't help either.

And also, BloodRayne!?
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2007 08:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Having finished it, Ivy shouldn't have been on there either, nor should have Cortana. In their places they should have had Felicia and Morrigan.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Feb 20 2007 08:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The probably only slapped Bloodrayne on there because of her *ahem* successful movie franchise. (Yes, the evil Mr. Boll is working on a sequel.)

But yes Morrigan would have been an awesome choice.

Also, notice there was no SNK love?

Where's Mai, Nakoruru, & Charlotte?

I can see Ivy, she is pretty mainstream as far as "Hot Girls of Gaming" things go, though I about gagged at the opinon that J.Lo should play her in a movie!

What gets me is they mentioned two girls from the D&D RPG's Planescape:Torment and Bulder's Gate, but no mention of Lady Aribeth de Tylmarande, who is a central character in "Neverwinter Nights", and in the 2nd Expansion, "Hordes of The Underdark".

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Lady Aribeth de Tylmarande

Her tale is a tragic one, marked with a unique strength that persists even beyond the grave, and simultaneously marred by betrayal and failure.

Central to Aribeth's background is her training as a paladin. Widely regarded as one of the champions of Neverwinter, she shares a romance with the cleric Fenthick, rumor telling that the two will be wed before the year's end. She seeks to end a mysterious plague that has infected the glorious city, and it is around this theme that the prologue takes place. The player takes the role of a student in the school, battling alongside Aribeth when the school is attacked to sabotage the cure for the plague. She then becomes the central NPC with whom the player interacts in the first chapter, wherein the various reagents to find the cure are retrieved. Her level of dialogue in this particular chapter is somewhat less than enthralling, so I shall move ahead to the chapter one finale. The reagents having been gathered, the efforts to halt the plague are once more stymied when Desther steals the cure and runs, followed by Aribeth's lover Fenthick. She does little more than keep the portal open that the player can pursue, although if pressed she will express concern over what her lover has done. Well she should, for the closing scene after Desther is brought to justice is the public execution of Fenthick, a tableaux of a tear-scarred, hard-eyed Aribeth being the final image before chapter two begins.

In the second part, Aribeth appears to be staunch, relatively unmoved by her lover's death-- or more accurately, seeking to give that impression. She largely passes the role of primary NPC to Aaron Gend, but as the player gains levels (and persuade skill points) it is possible to talk with her more readily, even to become her friend. She confesses to the gamer her confusion over Fenthick's death, both the sense of loss and the sense of uncertainty over how she might have reacted in his place. She tells of a nightmare that she has of being abandoned by her god, the holy lord Tyr, to a cacophany of voices and an envelope of darkness. She relates the story of how she came to be a paladin, believing herself rescued by Tyr himself after a somewhat shadowed past. If the player is sufficiently persuasive and powerful, she might even relinquish her ring as a token of said friendship. All the more shocking, then, does the second part of the chapter seem.

As it turns out, Aribeth departs from the company of Gend to seek out her own personal agenda. As the player nears the final area, her journal is discovered, wherein she describes that she will be giving herself over to Maugrim in the service of Morag, ostensibly in vengeance for the execution of her lover. A climactic end at the top of the highest tower depicts her renouncing her faith, the betrayal of her allegiance, and fully becoming a servant of the dark lizard goddess. The player's only recourse upon this discovery is to complete the chapter, returning with the dire news to Gend. It is her betrayal that fuels the setting for the next two chapters, although she herself makes little appearance as an NPC, for her knowledge of the secrets of Neverwinter fuels the utter destruction of all that stands in her quest for vengeance.

It is not until chapter four that the player once more has the opportunity to speak with her, but far has she fallen from the noble paladin that she once was. Embittered by Fenthick's death, she rages against the people of Neverwinter who screamed and cheered as he was hung, and insists that she cares for nothing now. She attacks, and when she is badly wounded, she interjects once more. Here the player can either finish her off, or attempt to persuade her to turn herself in. Either way, death hangs over her like a shroud, for even should she be convinced to return to await her judgment, she says little more than it was good to see her friend, the player, one last time. So ends her fate in the original campaign, with either death or uncertainty.

All uncertainty is removed in the Hordes of the Underdark expansion, where other heroes of Neverwinter simply tell tale that she died. The manner of her death is not described, but surely one could speculate it was quick and violent. Nothing more is mentioned of her until the beginning of chapter three in the frozen wastes of Cania (i.e. Hell), where a story of a spirit who led an unsuccessful rebellion against Mephistopheles the demonlord. Now she stands frozen in a cavern of ice... but the player has the option to revive her, fight her, and learn more of her tale.

As it turns out, she states that she once cared enough that she did seek to stop Mephistopheles, but he revealed to her the terrible truth that she had lied to herself about. She had never loved Fenthick, always thought him a fool, and his death only served to give her an excuse for her betrayal. In short, every monstrous action that she had taken was for naught, no redemption to be found. Although it is said that she can be hired as a henchman in her fallen state, what fascinated me more was the ability to tell her that all was not yet lost-- that Tyr himself could still discern whether or not he would take her, fallen or no. So begins the redemption of the fallen paladin, who proves to be a worthy ally.

One of the interesting side notes on chapter three is that male characters can flirt with Aribeth, particularly in the cavern of the mimic where the player is deprived of armor and stands rather... exposed... before her. How successful the player is at fostering this flirtation can impact the ending significantly, particularly in the finale with Mephistopheles. If she loves the character, she can be persuaded to stand with him (I do not believe female characters have this option) in the final hour. Alternately, she can be forced into service using her true name, after which point she will stand with the player and eventually find her way back to Neverwinter as a spirit. Her other main options are betrayal and death... or, if she betrays the character and Mephistopheles is beaten without a battle, she will beg for mercy and become a loyal ally forever after.

If I may make a few closing remarks, in my opinion, Aribeth always provided a example par excellence as a conflicted character. The romance with Fenthick was expected, a perfect ending for a noble paladin, while all the time she was confined to the pedestal upon which Neverwinter had placed her. The fact that she was willing to fight Mephistopheles even in death, and to have the chance once more at redemption, indicates to me that her will remained strong despite what she had suffered. Discussions on her character and the overall plot of the Neverwinter series abound, but if nothing else, Aribeth stands out for me as a story of redemption, guided throughout by the mysterious force of Tyr.

Lady Aribeth was far more than a just another piece of video game eyecandy. She had a sprit and and a grand tale all her own, though she is but one of many you meet throughout your quests, she will be one who most touches your heart and leaves an impression on your mind.
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PostPosted: Feb 21 2007 03:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

I completely support cortana's placement, but I think they could have done without ivy. I don't find ivy attractive at all. I would have much preferred cassandra or xiangua if they had to.

and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai or armor clad charolette would be here, and nakoroku is like eleven. I would have much preferred if vanessa or athena made it on.


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PostPosted: Feb 21 2007 04:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Mad *******!!!! I FUCKING HATE IT WHEN THEY PUT THAT DAMNED LARA CROFT FIRST!! GRAAAAAAHH!!


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PostPosted: Feb 21 2007 11:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

WTF? I didn't recognize half of those chicks...they must be from blehh games.


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 01:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
I completely support cortana's placement, but I think they could have done without ivy. I don't find ivy attractive at all. I would have much preferred cassandra or xiangua if they had to.

and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai or armor clad charolette would be here, and nakoroku is like eleven. I would have much preferred if vanessa or athena made it on.


Vanessa I'm in full support for, but isn't Athena still in high school?

Still, Athena has been around for god damn forever, and leaving her off any sort of greatest girls of gaming list is a good sign that somebody didn't do their research.


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 06:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai


Mai was pretty much the pioneer of bouncing titties in video games, thus she should be on there at the very least.

This list is fucking horrible.


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 02:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

BBH wrote:
Mai was pretty much the pioneer of bouncing titties in video games


Can you really say someone pioneered sexuality in a game? I guess so...

FUN TRIVIA: Who was the first TV couple to be seen in bed together? (100 1-UP to the person who answers correctly)


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 02:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A wild guess. Jackie Gleason and his wife on The Honeymooners?


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 02:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rycona wrote:
A wild guess. Jackie Gleason and his wife on The Honeymooners?


nope


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 02:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Ricardos in I Love Lucy?
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 03:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Nah, no way. It couldn't have been till at least the late '50s, but my guess would be '60s or so. Still, I have no clue what show/couple it was.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 03:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Mike & Carol Brady.
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DarkMaze
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 03:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Actually, I looked it up and I'm very mistaken. Embarrassed
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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 11:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

RobotGumshoe wrote:
JEW wrote:
I completely support cortana's placement, but I think they could have done without ivy. I don't find ivy attractive at all. I would have much preferred cassandra or xiangua if they had to.

and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai or armor clad charolette would be here, and nakoroku is like eleven. I would have much preferred if vanessa or athena made it on.


Vanessa I'm in full support for, but isn't Athena still in high school?

Still, Athena has been around for god damn forever, and leaving her off any sort of greatest girls of gaming list is a good sign that somebody didn't do their research.


a high school girl is a much better selection than 13 year old nakoruku.

also, mai is boring. that's like saying pong deserves to be on the greatest gaems ever list somewhere jsut because it was first.


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PostPosted: Feb 22 2007 11:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Still no one... boooo to all of you... and this is suppose to be a pop culture site!!! I will repost my question:

FUN TRIVIA: Who was the first TV couple to be seen in bed together? (100 1-UP to the person who answers correctly)


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 12:34 am Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
RobotGumshoe wrote:
JEW wrote:
I completely support cortana's placement, but I think they could have done without ivy. I don't find ivy attractive at all. I would have much preferred cassandra or xiangua if they had to.

and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai or armor clad charolette would be here, and nakoroku is like eleven. I would have much preferred if vanessa or athena made it on.


Vanessa I'm in full support for, but isn't Athena still in high school?

Still, Athena has been around for god damn forever, and leaving her off any sort of greatest girls of gaming list is a good sign that somebody didn't do their research.


a high school girl is a much better selection than 13 year old nakoruku.

also, mai is boring. that's like saying pong deserves to be on the greatest gaems ever list somewhere jsut because it was first.


Why no love for Nakoruru? The list was "Greatest Female Video Game Characters," not "What Digital Girl Do You Want Bone". Personally, if I was to write my own list I would base it on merits such as Backstory, Character Drive, and the way the character was portrayed.

Besides, they had Jail Bait... errr Rikku on the list, and Nakoruru was only underage in the first game. She was born in 1771. Samurai Shodown took place in 1788. (Making her approx. 17 years old. Same age as Rikku in FFX-2.) Samurai Showdown 2 took place in 1789, making her 18.

Her younger sister, Rimururu , on the other hand...
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 01:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Tish, since I looked it up, I can't play. Besides, NO ONE HERE will get it without looking it up. Just sayin'. Wink
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 01:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

Also, this is an 80s-90s pop culture site.

And I agree with DarkMaze, as I too looked it up. No one's gonna get it.
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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 07:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
JEW wrote:
RobotGumshoe wrote:
JEW wrote:
I completely support cortana's placement, but I think they could have done without ivy. I don't find ivy attractive at all. I would have much preferred cassandra or xiangua if they had to.

and as far as SNK goes, I don't think generic big tittied mai or armor clad charolette would be here, and nakoroku is like eleven. I would have much preferred if vanessa or athena made it on.


Vanessa I'm in full support for, but isn't Athena still in high school?

Still, Athena has been around for god damn forever, and leaving her off any sort of greatest girls of gaming list is a good sign that somebody didn't do their research.


a high school girl is a much better selection than 13 year old nakoruku.

also, mai is boring. that's like saying pong deserves to be on the greatest gaems ever list somewhere jsut because it was first.


Why no love for Nakoruru? The list was "Greatest Female Video Game Characters," not "What Digital Girl Do You Want Bone". Personally, if I was to write my own list I would base it on merits such as Backstory, Character Drive, and the way the character was portrayed.

Besides, they had Jail Bait... errr Rikku on the list, and Nakoruru was only underage in the first game. She was born in 1771. Samurai Shodown took place in 1788. (Making her approx. 17 years old. Same age as Rikku in FFX-2.) Samurai Showdown 2 took place in 1789, making her 18.

Her younger sister, Rimururu , on the other hand...


I was onder the impressson that she was much younger, actually.

and if you're going by backstory and stuff, quite a few of these people should be disqualified.


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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 09:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

Like Ivy. Her backstory is basically "My dad is an undead pirate zombie, and I'm a gigantic bitch".


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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 03:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No popful mail?


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PostPosted: Feb 23 2007 03:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Kojjiro the Angry wrote:
No popful mail?


No, this TOP-50 is clearly an american one.


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