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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 11:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
This is true, regarding in store coverage of systems.

The last Lenovo I had come through, was a standard mATX system. I swapped out the dead mobo with a new MSI one, swapped the chip and RAM, and sent it right back out the door. I was pretty impressed.

So, maybe it is a newer trend for Lenovo. Though the system was at least a few years old, as it was a LGA775 with a dual core Pentium in it.

Ah, you got an IBM machine. When Lenovo bought the product line, they continued the build process for a year or two before moving to their own production model.

If IBM were a vendor I'd consider them. They generally keep things pretty standardized... that is probably because they helped make the standards.



 
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 12:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry about the cheap ram advice i edited the post so if anyone reads it.. it now makes sure to give them correct advice, that won't jeopardize your system. I said avoid overclocking ram, but go for namebrand.

With any purchase even if it's a laptop or a pre-built desktop. I'd look at these three things 1.)Price 2.) Specs and 3.) reviews

and when you read the reviews actually read them, sometimes you'll notice the exact same review posted for a product and it's just employees from that company upping the rating on their company's product. Make sure to actually check #of reviews (hopefully many reviews), review rating, and then read a few pages worth. That'll stop you from buying a total piece of junk even if you know little. Whether it's individual computer piece such as ram, or if you're buying a pre-built computer.

If you see it in a store, you can look up info about it online.

I'm sure you'll pick out something that meets your wants, from the sound of it you're not looking for awesome, just consistent, reliable, smooth, and fast.


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 12:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JonSnow wrote:
I'm sure you'll pick out something that meets your wants, from the sound of it you're not looking for awesome, just consistent, reliable, smooth, and fast.

He's looking for a computer, not a date with your mom.
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 01:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

She's very robotic!


Anyway if you're around with time... hit me up via pm or something...


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Pandajuice
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 01:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Seriously guys, give me some advice on those computers I linked. What do you think of those?
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 02:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Radeon HD 5850 will make gaming much more fun if that is something you care about.



 
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 02:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Out of those choices, I would go with the 1st Gateway you linked. #6275960.

Also, when you get to Cali, look for some local PC shops and see what they have to offer and let us know.
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Pandajuice
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PostPosted: Jul 28 2010 02:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Good stuff, thanks guys. I'll bump this thread in about 10 days when I check out some local shops and make the purchase with all your advice in mind.
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Atma
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Joined: Apr 29 2010
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PostPosted: Jul 31 2010 01:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Computer question myself. Upgrading RAM.

Do I need two sticks of the same size? for example. I Currently have 4GBs of RAM and want to uprade to 6GB.

Can I use a 4GB and a 2GB stick? or do I need two 3GB sticks? If thats the case I might just bite the bullet and spend the extra cash for two 4GB and kick it up to 8GB.
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Jul 31 2010 02:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Atma wrote:
Computer question myself. Upgrading RAM.

Do I need two sticks of the same size? for example. I Currently have 4GBs of RAM and want to uprade to 6GB.

Can I use a 4GB and a 2GB stick? or do I need two 3GB sticks? If thats the case I might just bite the bullet and spend the extra cash for two 4GB and kick it up to 8GB.

What motherboard and processor do you use? If you bought the computer from a vendor, what model is it?

RAM is a funny thing... depending upon the type you must use, the answers change.



 
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Atma
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PostPosted: Jul 31 2010 02:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alienware M17x, Intel Core i5 520M 2.4GHz (2.93GHz Turbo Mode, 3MB Cache)
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 31 2010 02:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm sure a knight will come and answer this better. But depending if the ram works together it's best to have two sticks of the same size. I see no downside of having two sticks of the same size, but there are definite upsides in certain situations.


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Aug 01 2010 10:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

Atma wrote:
GPFontaine wrote:
Atma wrote:
Computer question myself. Upgrading RAM.

Do I need two sticks of the same size? for example. I Currently have 4GBs of RAM and want to uprade to 6GB.

Can I use a 4GB and a 2GB stick? or do I need two 3GB sticks? If thats the case I might just bite the bullet and spend the extra cash for two 4GB and kick it up to 8GB.

What motherboard and processor do you use? If you bought the computer from a vendor, what model is it?

RAM is a funny thing... depending upon the type you must use, the answers change.

Alienware M17x, Intel Core i5 520M 2.4GHz (2.93GHz Turbo Mode, 3MB Cache)

Atma, that system uses DDR3 Dual Channel Memory. You would be best served with one of the following combinations.

* 2x 2GB = 4GB
* 2x 4GB = 8GB

The option that Dell offers for 1x 2GB + 1x 4GB would degrade your performance by reducing the memory to single channel speeds.

Personally my recommendation for you is to enjoy the 4GB and smile. For most, adding RAM beyond 4GB at this particular time would have very little impact on the performance of the machine. In fact, in a laptop, it would drain your battery just a little more. I would suggest you save your money.



JonSnow wrote:
I'm sure a knight will come and answer this better. But depending if the ram works together it's best to have two sticks of the same size. I see no downside of having two sticks of the same size, but there are definite upsides in certain situations.

Size matching does matter sometimes, and other times it doesn't. However, the lowest speed DIMM always wins, so speed of the RAM does count in all cases.

DDR Memory doesn't have specific DIMM requirements. The size of DIMMs has no impact.
DDR2 requires pairs of memory in the correct DIMM sockets for dual channel speeds. The pairs must match in capacity.
DDR3 can require either pairs of memory in the correct DIMM sockets for dual channel speeds or it can require three sticks of memory in the correct DIMM sockets for triple channel speeds. All DIMMs must match in capacity.

In addition, for Dual or Triple Channel to work, the RAM must be physically similar. The memory chips must have the same configuration. For the reason, it is wise to pair up memory from the same manufacturer unless you really know what you are doing.

There are of course some loopholes with these, but like I said before, knowing the system makes a large difference in how it will be configured.



 
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
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PostPosted: Aug 01 2010 12:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
Atma wrote:
GPFontaine wrote:
Atma wrote:
Computer question myself. Upgrading RAM.

Do I need two sticks of the same size? for example. I Currently have 4GBs of RAM and want to uprade to 6GB.

Can I use a 4GB and a 2GB stick? or do I need two 3GB sticks? If thats the case I might just bite the bullet and spend the extra cash for two 4GB and kick it up to 8GB.

What motherboard and processor do you use? If you bought the computer from a vendor, what model is it?

RAM is a funny thing... depending upon the type you must use, the answers change.

Alienware M17x, Intel Core i5 520M 2.4GHz (2.93GHz Turbo Mode, 3MB Cache)

Atma, that system uses DDR3 Dual Channel Memory. You would be best served with one of the following combinations.

* 2x 2GB = 4GB
* 2x 4GB = 8GB

The option that Dell offers for 1x 2GB + 1x 4GB would degrade your performance by reducing the memory to single channel speeds.

Personally my recommendation for you is to enjoy the 4GB and smile. For most, adding RAM beyond 4GB at this particular time would have very little impact on the performance of the machine. In fact, in a laptop, it would drain your battery just a little more. I would suggest you save your money.

Thanks man. Much appreciated.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Aug 02 2010 10:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

GPF pretty much nailed it. I don't have anything further to add, other than my usual recommendation of buying quality name brand RAM, and not buying the generic stuff just because it is cheaper. When it comes to RAM, you definately get what you pay for.
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