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Spoony, Zelda, and Fallout


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JRA
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I wasn't sure whether or not this should go in videogames or internet. My judgement said video games.

While everyone seems to be creaming themselves over Skyward Sword, Spoony makes the remark somewhat to the effect of "Nintendo has been making the same Zelda game for consoles since OoT and Skyward Sword is no different."

Later, he actually Twitters this: "Fallout 2 was significantly different from the first game, expanded and improved in every way. Anyone who disagrees is a Nazi."

Now I've never played any Fallout game, but I did go to wikipedia too look it up and sure enough, one criticism of it is the lack of improvement over the first game.

I twittered this: "Funny you should blindly defend the brown and gray Fallout, when we could say the exact same thing about post OoT zelda and call you a nazi." But then retracted it because, well, I didn't know what I was talking about in regards to Fallout.

So, am I right? Is Spoony just being a faux tough guy hypocritical "Nintendo is gay" douchebag? Or is he actually on point?


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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Undeath
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't think so. I like Spoony, but that's also like comparing the original Zelda to Link to the Past and saying it's just a remake.

The formula's starting to become a bit dated, however.


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Not only is that not right, that's not even wrong. It's a meaningless statement. Saying something is "one molecule away" from plastic is like saying a farm is one letter away from a fart. Water is "one molecule away" from being explosive hydrogen gas.

 
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

No, he's like soooo right. I mean, fuck, I played OOT. I loved OOT. But I only loved it because it was NEW and had awesome things that I had never seen in Zelda games before like an awesome horse who doesn't really do anything, but it's a horse and you can ride it.

Then I played Majora's Mask. And it was THE SAME FUCKING GAME. I was like, what the fuck? I wanted something NEW. Mask wasn't new at all! First off, you play as Link again. Secondly, you have a sword again. Thirdly, there's a moon. They made a big deal about the moon in Majora's Mask. That was fucking gay. There was a moon in Ocarina too, and no one cared. WTF, the Nintendo?

And then they made Wind Waker and Twilight Princess, and once again you're playing as the same little green guy with a sword. FUCKING UNORIGINAL BULLSHIT is what that is.

Hey Nintendo, it's called Legend of Zelda, not Legend of Link! Why don't you give us a new hero to play as? No one wants to play as the same guy over and over. That's why MGS2 was about that Raiden guy instead of being about Kurt Russell.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Holy shit. Somebody had an opinion on the Internet! ATTACK!

Why the fuck would you take the time to go through a guys Twitter page and then look up a game you've never played just to prove him wrong because he said he wasn't wowed by a franchise that you like?

Why would you then make a topic on a forum to see if you were in the wrong for doing so? Go play the fucking game for yourself.


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JRA
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
Holy shit. Somebody had an opinion on the Internet! ATTACK!

Why the fuck would you take the time to go through a guys Twitter page and then look up a game you've never played just to prove him wrong because he said he wasn't wowed by a franchise that you like?

Why would you then make a topic on a forum to see if you were in the wrong for doing so? Go play the fucking game for yourself.

You troll Nintendo fans for the lulz. Your opinion is irrelevant and you should shut your fuckhole mouth.


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 08:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Everyone chillax.

Also, ironically, Fallout 3 was preemptively criticized for not being enough like Fallout 2. I haven't played Fallout 3, so I don't know how different it is from Fallout 2. But I do know that everyone loves it.
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JRA
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would have been fine if Spoony just said his piece about Zelda and left it at that, but then he felt the need to defend what looks like to the casual observer as a gray-and-brown PC game (the typical tough guy bullshit for gamers) with no real argument other than "you're a nazi if you disagree." So now I have reason to believe that Spoony is another typical "I'm allergic to Nintendo because it's a toy" shithead. What's infuriating about that is that well, Spoony should be smarter than that.


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Spoony's job is to say shit about games, isn't it?

That's his whole thing, a mocker of video games. I just ignore what he says if I like the game and giggle if I don't.


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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I will agree that Zelda is an odd target for such criticism, especially when Skyward Sword hasn't even been getting that much buzz. Everyone seems more excited about the more imminent games.

I mean why go after Zelda? Why not Call of Duty? They've been three times as unoriginal in a third of the time.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

you know whats unoriginal? chessmaster. that game hasnt changed ever since it was first released


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JRA
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

LowEndLem wrote:
Spoony's job is to say shit about games, isn't it?

That's his whole thing, a mocker of video games. I just ignore what he says if I like the game and giggle if I don't.


From his FAQ:

"I have no idea why I still get e-mails demanding reviews of games like Half-Life, World of Warcraft, or Resident Evil 4. It really doesn’t make sense to me. Either you want to see me give some kind of glowing, masturbatory review, or you really hate the game and want to see it destroyed. In the first case, it’s not going to be funny, and in the second, even if I agreed that Half-Life sucked, I think we would both have to admit that there are thousands of games that are way, way worse."

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you know whats unoriginal? chessmaster. that game hasnt changed ever since it was first released


Laughing


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

LowEndLem wrote:
Spoony's job is to say shit about games, isn't it?

That's his whole thing, a mocker of video games. I just ignore what he says if I like the game and giggle if I don't.

I've never watched Spoony. I've heard him described as a smarter, classier version of AVGN. So my assumption would be that it's his job to smarter and classier than the average gamer.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
you know whats unoriginal? chessmaster. that game hasnt changed ever since it was first released

Chessmaster 2000 got me into chess so I can't hate on it too much. But I have to say it stopped being good after they dropped the wizard dude from the box art.


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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

There are not thousands of games worse than World of Grindcraft. There are, at best, six. Urban Champion is not one of them.
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JRA
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
LowEndLem wrote:
Spoony's job is to say shit about games, isn't it?

That's his whole thing, a mocker of video games. I just ignore what he says if I like the game and giggle if I don't.

I've never watched Spoony. I've heard him described as a smarter, classier version of AVGN. So my assumption would be that it's his job to smarter and classier than the average gamer.


Classier? Whoever said that is a fucking idiot! The guy said that if somebody likes the love theme from Final Fantasy VIII, then they are a pussy. Not saying that I disagree, but that is the furthest thing from classy.

Not to mention Spooning with Spoony. Which is very entertaining, but classy? Fuck no! Laughing


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 09:55 pm Reply with quote Back to top

To be fair, he also called Fallout: New Vegas a clone of Fallout 3 and he wasn't excited about it. I think he just really liked Fallout 2.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I thinking it's fucking hypocritical that we can't say "sammich," but Syd just got away with posting a bullshit slang portmanteau like "chillax."
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think he's being an ass on purpose because seeing people getting worked up over stupid shit is funny.

And Spoony is classier than AVGN because he doesn't yell "Fuck!" every 10 seconds.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah! How dare I start a site and then make up arbitrary, half-serious rules based on my own personal preferences!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I like Spoony, but for about a year he's been more and more arrogant in his reviews. In one recent video, he basically admitted he ignores most messages he gets. Granted, I know he has a pretty big following, but damn is that just an ignorant thing to say.

And yes, if he really wanted to rip on anything, how about Mario? I know there isn't anything new at E3 involving Mario, but I think it's a better argument than LoZ. In any case, I completely and utterly disagree with him.

He isn't classier than AVGN, since AVGN actually comes off as a lot more chill and respecting of his fans, I've never seen him outburst on his fans the way Spoony or even Linkara do.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know! Syd, next time you see yourself walking around, tell him your sarcastic humor amounts to fascism!
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Doddsino wrote:
I like Spoony, but for about a year he's been more and more arrogant in his reviews. In one recent video, he basically admitted he ignores most messages he gets. Granted, I know he has a pretty big following, but damn is that just an ignorant thing to say.

And yes, if he really wanted to rip on anything, how about Mario? I know there isn't anything new at E3 involving Mario, but I think it's a better argument than LoZ. In any case, I completely and utterly disagree with him.

He isn't classier than AVGN, since AVGN actually comes off as a lot more chill and respecting of his fans, I've never seen him outburst on his fans the way Spoony or even Linkara do.


With Linkara, are you talking about his Power Rangers rant?


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Uh, there was Mario at E3. Mario Sports Mix.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Basically. I mean I know what he was going for, because it does get annoying, but it still was uncalled for. Some people are just inquisitive by nature and waiting weeks sometimes, people like to ask. I hardly follow the guy, but man did it piss me off when I saw that. I find it unprofessional, he could've very well said "thanks for all the support people, I know it can be a while with the updates, but the new reviews are coming, in the meantime visit my forum or watch my other videos". It's as simple as that.
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PostPosted: Jun 20 2010 10:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Doddsino wrote:
And yes, if he really wanted to rip on anything, how about Mario? I know there isn't anything new at E3 involving Mario, but I think it's a better argument than LoZ.

There was Mario Sports Mix.

EDIT: Whoa, a couple posts went up before I finished reading and posting that. So...what Syd said.


Pretty much the greatest thread of all time: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14789

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