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Posted: May 16 2010 12:43 pm

This actually makes me hate him quite a bit less. I think he's very fair in his assessment; he points out that a lot of the script (which he had no control over) was bad, but that his performance added to, rather than helped abate, the problem:

The Escapist wrote:

"I feel like I dropped the ball on the legacy that people loved and cherished," LaBeouf said. "You get to monkey-swinging and things like that and you can blame it on the writer and you can blame it on Steven [Spielberg]. But the actor's job is to make it come alive and make it work, and I couldn't do it. So that's my fault. Simple."

"We [Harrison Ford and LaBeouf] had major discussions. He wasn't happy with it either. Look, the movie could have been updated. There was a reason it wasn't universally accepted," he added.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/100704-LaBeouf-Its-My-Fault-Indiana-Jones-4-Was-No-Good

So anyway, it doesn't excuse him for this or for the abomination that is Transformers, but good on him anyway. Perhaps this can allow the healing to begin.

Posted: May 16 2010 01:16 pm

It's not like he wrote it, but he did agree to act it after reading it so yeah.

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Yeah, I heard him after the movie premiere talking to someone saying "I knew the script was bad". Wow, so you on purpose participated in a movie that will increase your wallet but make a cherished franchise look stupid? It's not like actors don't do this every day, but as for letting the healing begin, that shit ain't happenin'.

Posted: May 16 2010 02:37 pm

Also, the beef is a terrible nickname.

Posted: May 16 2010 03:53 pm

Well in total fairness, if someone offered me the chance to be indy`s sidekick, i`m sure I`d do it too, regardless of the script.

Posted: May 16 2010 04:20 pm

He apologized for Transformers 2 also.
http://youbentmywookie.com/entertainment/labeouf-says-transformers-2-got-too-big-for-its-own-good-promises-better-next-installment-8948

Can't wait till he apologizes for Wall Street 2.

Posted: May 16 2010 04:30 pm

holy shit that's fucking fantastic! Once in a blue moon do actors admit that they fucked up a movie.

Posted: May 16 2010 11:20 pm

When he signed on for Indy 4, he signed on the chance to work with Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford, two of the most bankable names in the industry. At the time he signed on, Sean Connery was still being heavily courted, too. Of course you take that role. Especially when you're young and want to build a resume.

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transformers isn't an abomination.

Posted: May 16 2010 11:55 pm

I never saw it or Indy 4 for that matter.

Posted: May 17 2010 12:35 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

When he signed on for Indy 4, he signed on the chance to work with Steven Spielberg and Harrison Ford, two of the most bankable names in the industry. At the time he signed on, Sean Connery was still being heavily courted, too. Of course you take that role. Especially when you're young and want to build a resume.

Yep. You'd be a complete fool to pass on it, regardless of how horrid the scrip is.

Still, cool of him to own up to how much it sucks.

Posted: May 17 2010 05:53 am

I agree with everyone. Even you would take the job Josh having no acting experience at all simply because it's Spielberg and fucking Indiana Jones.Also, a lot of actors have an arrogance where even if the script is bad, they think they can "out-act" the script and make it work. LaBoof is less of a douchebag to me for owning it and admitting that he failed.

It wasn't his fault the movie sucked though. That honor falls squarely on the shoulders of George Lucas.

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I can appreciate his statement. I agree with Syd, how could he not take the role? While he didn't help the movie, I don't think he hurt it that much. Personally I felt like the plot ruined the movie much more than any of the actors did.

Also, Transformers and the sequel were both good movies. They were simply not retro/nostalgia films that many fans wanted. They were modern day films that used old characters. Also, for all the criticism that the second movie got, holy fuck did it do well in the theaters. If people hated it so much, why did they go back to see it multiple times?

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Pandajuice wrote:

It wasn't his fault the movie sucked though. That honor falls squarely on the shoulders of George Lucas.

Agreed. In fact, Mutt Williams was tolerable until they reintroduced Marion. The first 45 minutes of the movie were alright, then they just decided to throw as much shit at you without really building up any suspense or reasoning as to why it's happening.

This movie, nor the sequel should've ever gotten made. We got closure on everything from Crusade and our closing shot was Indy riding off into the blazing sunset, it was awesome. How does Crystal Skulls end? With Indy getting married...I mean...way to fucking shoehorn a storyline like THAT into a movie. I know that he and Marion had previous experience, but they hadn't seen eachother in 20 YEARS, now all the sudden they're ready to get married?

That to me, was worse than everything else in the movie, the monkey vines, the fridge, the goddamn prairie dogs. This movie just lacks the practicality that the other movies had, and THAT'S saying a lot considering how far fetched the Indy movies can be.

Posted: May 17 2010 10:49 pm

I liked Indy 4 a thousand times more than I liked Temple of Doom.

Posted: May 17 2010 10:51 pm

Hey, I rewatched this today since I hadn't seen it since I saw it in theaters....and yeah, it still blows. But it's not Shia whatshisnuts fault. The script sucks, and the special effects are kind of crappy as well.

And I never liked Temple of Doom either. I like Crusade and Raiders a lot though.

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I can give you about 100 reasons why Temple of Doom was better than Crystal Skulls...but it's all a matter of opinion. I mean I'm sure if I didn't grow up with TOD, then I would be more harsh towards it, but that's not the case...and I doubt I still would be as harsh towards it as I was Crystal Skulls. The ending just plain sucked, I loved how Indy and company have the common sense to run away when the alien starts going nuts, but the Russians idly stand there like idiots.

Fuck Crystal Skulls...what a pile of shit that was. The worst movie I've ever paid to see in a theater next to Observe and Report.

Posted: May 17 2010 11:48 pm

Doddsino wrote:

Fuck Crystal Skulls...what a pile of shit that was. The worst movie I've ever paid to see in a theater next to Observe and Report.

idk, clash of the titans sucked major asshole.

oh wait, you said PAID to see. nevermind then

Posted: May 18 2010 01:25 pm

I like to think Indy got some sort of brain tumor after being that close to a nuclear mushroom cloud...after that, he was in a kind of Hunter S. Thompson haze, in which he was lying on the ground talking to prairie dogs believing them to be dorky teenage bikers, Russians, and ex-lovers.

Posted: May 18 2010 01:39 pm

I don't know how Hollywood works, but if I was a producer I sure as hell wouldn't hire him to be in anything after these comments.

Posted: May 18 2010 01:39 pm

Milhouse wrote:

I like to think Indy got some sort of brain tumor after being that close to a nuclear mushroom cloud...after that, he was in a kind of Hunter S. Thompson haze, in which he was lying on the ground talking to prairie dogs believing them to be dorky teenage bikers, Russians, and ex-lovers.

that would make a better movie.

Posted: May 18 2010 03:25 pm

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

I don't know how Hollywood works, but if I was a producer I sure as hell wouldn't hire him to be in anything after these comments.

At least he waits until after the movies make a bajillion dollars first.

Posted: May 18 2010 03:38 pm

Blackout wrote:

It's not like he wrote it, but he did agree to act it after reading it so yeah.

Sometimes it's hard to see how bad a script can be until you put it to practice. Especially when you wrote it.

Posted: May 18 2010 03:53 pm

username wrote:

Milhouse wrote:

I like to think Indy got some sort of brain tumor after being that close to a nuclear mushroom cloud...after that, he was in a kind of Hunter S. Thompson haze, in which he was lying on the ground talking to prairie dogs believing them to be dorky teenage bikers, Russians, and ex-lovers.

that would make a better movie.

Movie?

Posted: May 18 2010 08:43 pm

One of the problems that allows Cheesy Beefy to get work is the fact that Spielberg loves the kid and will work hard to put him in anything.