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Deadmau_5pra
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PostPosted: Apr 25 2010 02:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think the best thing to do with remakes is this......


GO SEE THEM, THEN DECIDE!

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PostPosted: Apr 25 2010 02:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i agree w/spra. im not condemning this movie, but im not necessarily looking forward to it either.


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PostPosted: Apr 25 2010 04:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd said everything I was going to respond to FNJ with. Except for Fuck Micheal Bay, I don't care if there is a bandwagon of hate for him. Tie some straps around my shoulders and I'll pull the damn bandwagon, the guy is an arrogant hack.


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PostPosted: Apr 25 2010 05:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SpraCoalee wrote:
I think the best thing to do with remakes is this......


GO SEE THEM, THEN DECIDE!

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But if we go see them and hate them, they'll do more remakes because we went to go see the last one.


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2010 12:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The Transformers movies weren't terrible because they weren't faithful to the source material; they were terrible because they were terrible. I mean look, at TMNT. TMNT has been reinvented a few times over the past decade, and the results have been highly satisfying. Transformers had nothing to with robots. Nothing. It was look at Shia LaBeouf and Megan Fox, aw, aren't they cute? NO THEY'RE NOT.

The difference here is that the TMNT characters have more to them. You're talking about guys that were originally penned in a mature comic series. They have more characterization to them than cartoon characters with almost no personality that only exist to sell toys. Aside from the fact that you're exaggerating about the films having nothing to do with robots, you have to realize that if there wasn't a focus on the humans in these films, we would be watching three hours of slow motion, exploding robots with no sort of plot. now I'm easily amused and would have no problem with this, but this seems to be one of the things that everyone bitches about when they mention Bay.

Syd Lexia wrote:

As for NOES, not interested. This whole "Oh, we're going to make it scary" bullshit irritates me. No, you're not. Unless you licensed it out to Tartan Extreme, which you didn't, it's not going to be scary. There might be a couple of cheap "jumps", but just like every other horror movie out there, the only people it's going to scare are halfwits and vapid teenage girls.

Secondly, horror was never the appeal of NOES. The appeal was cool death sequences punctuated by comedic one-liners. That's the Freddy character most people remember. Sure it wasn't Wes Craven's original vision, but whatever. NOES 3-5 are the heart, soul, and the absolute best pieces of that franchise. 2 and 6 are forgettable and awful, and the Wes Craven ones are decent.

So far we've only seen the trailer. We don't know if that's the case. Might I remind you of the original trailer for robocop?



seems like an entirely different film when they don't tell you about things like the satirical media breaks, doesn't it?

The idea of a trailer is to catch people's attention. Sure, Freddy killing people with corny jokes would make an old Nightmare fan like yourself squeal with delight, but that won't attract more than the fans of the old movies. Like it or not, these ultra "scary", super gory looking, jump out of your seat horror films are all the rage these days. A trailer like this will help draw the crowd from stuff like Final Destination 39483904823904 and Saw 34349234342365634466874.

Have a little faith, I'm sure they know enough of their source material to make sure longtime fans are entertained as well. Take a look at how Freddy Vs. Jason was received by fans who initially damned it to hell if you don't want to believe me.

Syd Lexia wrote:

Thirdly, Robert Englund is Freddy. Now, you can argue that Robert Englund is too old to play Freddy in a franchise reset that hopes to drag on for years. Maybe he is. But at 62, he's not THAT old. And Jackie Earle Haley is only ten years younger than Englund. So he's not likely to have a 20 year career as Freddy like Englund did.

I would agree with you on this if they were making a sequel, as opposed to a re-imagining. I think a fresh actor is important when trying to bring a fresh perspective on a character. Imagine what the 2003 Punisher movie would be like if they Casted Dolph Lundgren again instead of Thomas Jane. This new guy might suck, but who knows, he might even do a great job and surprise us all. I'm willing to give him a chance and see what he brings to the table, and I think others should too.

Syd Lexia wrote:

Fourthly, they fucked up the rhyme. For no reason. It's: "One, two, Freddy's coming for you." It's iconic, and there's absolutely no reason to change it. None. But in the trailer, Freddy says "One, two, guess who's coming for you." I mean, what the hell? That's like if they made a new Ghostbusters movie and the tagline was: "Who y'all gonna dial now?"

It's entirely possible that the rhyme is still okay in the film. They could have just taken that line out of context for the trailer. Again, all we have to go on is the trailer. I don't remember Freddy talking in the third person like Rocky Miavia, so it probably wouldn't make sense to have him saying it like that himself.

Syd Lexia wrote:
But I'm pretty sure he's still contracted for Freddy vs. Jason 2, if it ever actually gets made.

It wont be made. They made a comic book instead because they couldn't get everything in place accordingly.

Ash Burton wrote:
Syd said everything I was going to respond to FNJ with. Except for Fuck Micheal Bay, I don't care if there is a bandwagon of hate for him. Tie some straps around my shoulders and I'll pull the damn bandwagon, the guy is an arrogant hack.

This is like me saying "I don't like black people." and then not really explaining why. It just makes me look like a hateful douche with no real rhyme or reasoning.

Like I said, we should all be concentrating on hating guys like Paul W.S. Anderson. Have you guys SEEN what he did to Resident Evil?





Why are we worrying about slow motion exploding robots and remakes with rorschach when THIS man is allowed to walk the earth unhindered?


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2010 12:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

i agree. i was never a huge fan of the RE series, but the movies were HORRIBLE


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PostPosted: Apr 26 2010 01:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think the RE movies were enjoyably awful. Honestly, I don't hate Paul W.S. Anderson anymore than I hate Uwe Boll... actually, Boll is worse solely because he made Postal, which I refuse to accept being a movie. It is a collect of clips of stupid. I hate the Transformer movies because when it is not poorly done fight scenes of robots that quite frankly look the same*, it is a story of two unlikable fucks. It manages to fail both as an action movie and as a story. Oh, and the humor isn't all that funny. Still, if you enjoy the Transformer movies, more power to ya.

I won't bash NOES the remake, but I probably won't see it solely based on the fact that I didn't see the original... I should probably sit down and do that.

*minus the two racist ones from the second movie... but I don't want to get into that.
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PostPosted: Apr 26 2010 08:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So...for Afterlife he took his favorite parts of 5 and the first Matrix and mixed them? Why when you've taken the movie franchise so far off from game series would you add elements taken directly from the newest one?


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PostPosted: May 02 2010 03:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Friend of mine did a personal review of the flick
vincent wrote:
"A Nightmare on Elm Street" (2010) Starring: Jackie Earle Haley, Kyle Gallner, Rooney Mara, Katie Cassidy, Thomas Dekker. Directed: Samuel Bayer.

The teens of that small town in Ohio are back on the chopping block in the redo of A Nightmare on Elm Street. One additional kill and several count downs later the ending comes and if you've seen the original couple of Nightmares you'll pretty much see what's gonna happen from a mile away.

On the plus side the acting is adequate. I'll be surprised if I recognize really any of the teens after this one but sometimes that's how it is in slasher land. Haley is a good actor but, in this case Englund really was a more interesting Krueger, even if later entries were incredibly silly, there was something about Englund that was a more pure less, I need to take a shower evil. The direction is also nothing but average too.

The writing is very typical of the genre and generally lacks imagination. When they do decide to be imaginative they make Freddy a pervert instead of a child killer, which to me makes the character less interesting and more just... normal. The dialog also tends to lack any real interesting content and finally what isn't recycled from previous films ... well... you get the idea.

This could have been a whole lot better than it was. Overall, it's a rather dull trip down memory lane.

* 1/2 out of ****


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PostPosted: May 02 2010 04:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

I thought the Cinema Snobs review of it was interesting, though I still probably won't end up seeing it.

http://thecinemasnob.com/2010/05/01/a-nightmare-on-elm-street-review.aspx
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PostPosted: May 15 2010 10:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
IceWarm wrote:
Also Robert Englund IS Freddy! Even if he does not want to play the character or deal with the makeup they could of at least got him to do the voice since it looks like Freddy's mouth is closed/sealed in the trailers.

I don't think it's so much that he didn't want to do it as it was that he wanted someone else to take over to keep Freddy viable in the longterm. But I'm pretty sure he's still contracted for Freddy vs. Jason 2, if it ever actually gets made.


It got made, but it's a comic book.

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PostPosted: May 16 2010 01:47 am Reply with quote Back to top

SpraCoalee wrote:
I think the best thing to do with remakes is this......


GO SEE THEM, THEN DECIDE!

Cool

I've already seen it when it was released as a bad movie back in 1984. And that was before Michael Bay could fuck shit up and make it ten times worse.
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