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Caveat Emptor (PS3 news story)


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Lady_Satine
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2007 07:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

From http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20070205.gtgamer05/BNStory/Technology/home :

How a PlayStation speculator misread the market and lost:
PS3s gather dust in man's home after buying frenzy fails to materialize


PlayStation 3 has it all: a Cell Broadband Engine chip, a built-in Blu-ray disc player, a 60-gig hard drive and full online capabilities. For Derek O'Brien, it was a no-brainer.

On Nov. 16, a day before the system's launch, Mr. O'Brien left his construction job and began driving on Highway 401 toward Toronto. His plan was simple: pick up one or two PlayStation 3 systems, advertise them online and sit back as the sure-to-be hot -- and scarce -- commodity gathered steam in the chug toward Christmas.

Instead, the first-time scalper learned an expensive lesson about consumer demand and when to take a profit. Now that the dust has temporarily settled in the busy gaming marketplace, another lesson is coming into focus: Mr. O'Brien might have backed the wrong box.

But none of that was clear as lines formed at video game stores across North America on the eve of the launch. Mr. O'Brien called every Wal-Mart, Future Shop and Best Buy along Highway 401 from his car to gauge the length of the lineups of hardcore gamers and profiteers awaiting the powerful new PlayStation 3's release. He shied away from imposing queues in and around the Toronto area at Scarborough, Concord and Markham before settling on the Wal-Mart in Peterborough, an hour's drive northeast of the city. He arrived at 2 p.m., good enough to snag the fourth spot in line, "looking like a bum" in his work clothes until his girlfriend brought him a fresh outfit and some food.

The 23-year-old stood in line all night and at 7 a.m. the next morning, it paid off. He got his hands on two of the coveted machines, both 60-gig models, one bought legitimately at the store for $659 plus tax, the other acquired on the spot from a scalper, for a steep $1,800.

The hard part done, Mr. O'Brien thought he could sit back. He would flip the PlayStation 3s just before Christmas when demand was at its peak and use the profit to buy an engagement ring for his girlfriend -- the one who brought him the clothes and the food, whom he has been dating for seven years and whom he has known since Grade 2.

But two months later, the sleek PlayStation 3 units are collecting dust in Mr. O'Brien's closet in Bowmanville, Ont., while his girlfriend is still without a ring, although Mr. O'Brien repeatedly refers to her as his wife before correcting himself each time. He is looking at unloading the systems for as little as $600 each to buyers on the on-line classified service, craigslist.org, which would roughly amount to a $1,360 loss.

And the part that's haunting Mr. O'Brien. It didn't have to be this way.

Mr. O'Brien saw the market for PlayStation 3 systems soar initially after their launch, with the units fetching anywhere from $2,500 to $5,000 in eBay auctions. Still, with a month until Christmas, he waited. And waited.

"I just kept thinking, 'keep it until Christmas,' " he said. "And that was a mistake. A huge mistake."

Even before Christmas arrived, demand for the system started to decline. Sony managed to keep up semi-regular shipments through the holiday shopping season, which kept customer demand from ranging into the hysterical.

"I think a lot of people expected us just to ship on Nov. 17, so that no one would be able to buy them through Christmas and you'd see the insane eBay auction prices building up," said Matt Levitan, marketing and public relations manager for Sony Canada, who also said the company had shipped 1.1 million units to North America by the end of December. "We spoiled a few plans for people looking to make a big profit on the PS3."

Mr. O'Brien tried auctioning the systems on eBay in the United Kingdom, which won't see the official launch of the PlayStation 3 until March. It looked as though he was going to make a tidy profit, until eBay yanked his ads and suspended his account for trying to beat Sony to the punch in the British marketplace.

After the holiday season, with some retail chains well stocked with the system, Mr. O'Brien faced an even less promising market.

Jason Canam, a clerk at one downtown Toronto game retailer that has two PlayStation 3 systems, said the store hasn't seen much of a demand for the new console. In fact, he has seen a handful of opportunistic profit seekers buy the system only to return it a short while later.

"It's really common to see people buy it, put it on auction, and then take it back," Mr. Canam said. "It just sits on the shelf. [Nintendo] Wii's don't, [sit on the shelf] because they have more to offer. They have what most gamers want."

Gamers like Eric Butler, a 16-year-old high-school student from Thornhill, who thought he and his cousin had hit the jackpot when they stumbled upon a pair of 60-gig PlayStation 3 systems in Toys "R" Us about a week before Christmas. They nabbed both, one of which they sold quickly for a $100 profit. They could not sell the other system as easily. Eric entertained offers until mid-January on craigslist before he took the second system back to Toys "R" Us for a refund.

Mr. Butler says he wasn't tempted to unwrap and play the PlayStation 3 because it was "too expensive" -- he'd already bought his next-generation console of choice, Nintendo's Wii (which retails for about $279).

Mr. O'Brien, a casual gamer, was similarly uninterested in playing the system. But he found out too late that he had only a 30-day window to return the unopened consoles to Wal-Mart for a full refund, and now finds himself saddled with a pair of prohibitively expensive toys that many want to play, but few can afford to buy. They're two immoveable objects serving as a reminder of his best-laid plans going severely awry.


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Rycona
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2007 09:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

HA! That's what you get for relying on a PS3!


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DarkMaze
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PostPosted: Feb 05 2007 11:57 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not feeling a lot of sympathy for the guy.
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TheRoboSleuth
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 12:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

So, a scalper overspeculates and loses.

Kay.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 12:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

You don't wait on that shit, you greedy bastard. My trainer from work's son sold one for $25,000 or something.


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Murdar Machene
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 05:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

I heard the PS4 is gonna have the best graphics
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 07:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Murdar Machene wrote:
I heard the PS4 is gonna have the best graphics


Which indicates that it's not going to succeed well.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 08:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

Totally man! Because we all know the scientific fact that having the best graphics means you'll do the worst as a video game system. Like the N64, or SNES!
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Lady_Satine
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 10:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

Murdar Machene wrote:
Totally man! Because we all know the scientific fact that having the best graphics means you'll do the worst as a video game system. Like the N64, or SNES!

Absolutely Awesome.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 01:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Bitch got served. Bitch got what? Bitch got served.


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 10:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

teh N64 kind of dragged through it's console life, I think.

now somebody go on wikipedia and get me sales records to say LOK DOOD UR WRONG NINTENDO IZ GREAT!

the system had the shittiest ports, and only a handful of MUST HAVE games.


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Mr. Bomberman
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 10:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The SNES did not fail.

and the N64 was pretty good. at least it beat out the Saturn over here (because Sega's stupid 1997 comment that RPG's and Japanese games in general did not appeal to American audiences.) which I still can't believe, considering I owned both of them and I played my Saturn a lot more (SFA2 and NFL '97, I think)

Oh, and I pity that poor sucker who bought a PS3 in hopes of making money. Shape up or ship out.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2007 11:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

N64 is the only old system I still regularly play. PSX didn't have the longevity because the system and discs wear out in time.
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 09:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

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I PITY THE FOOL WHO BUY A PS3!!!


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Murdar Machene
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 10:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
N64 is the only old system I still regularly play. PSX didn't have the longevity because the system and discs wear out in time.


Bull shit they do. My friend still has and regularly plays his modded PS1, using original discs for games, as well as burned ones since it's modded.
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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 10:56 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, my playstation certainly didn't last. Chronic overheating problems. Also, at least half of my discs ended up with scratch marks just from regular use, which resulted in problems getting the games started and loading during the game.
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 11:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

my friend's ps1 is literally a motherboard with a disc reader sitting out in the open, with no coverings. haha. you have to put something on top of it to make it think the lid is down.
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 11:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Most of my discs are ok, but at one time my sister broke the spinning thing in the middle so didn't spin well, scratching some Cds on the way.

I have two ps1. Bought another because the modded one has problems reading discs properly. I got it 10 years ago.
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 12:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JEW wrote:
teh N64 kind of dragged through it's console life, I think.

I would agree with that. While not a "failed" system, it never reached the success of the SNES or the NES and it was only brielfy the #1 console during its initial release. The N64 was hurt by two main factors:

1. Production costs - It was much cheaper to put games on CDs than cartridges and the CDs could hold significantly more information. This was more attractive to game developers. Nintendo had banked on the idea that people didn't want to sit through loading times, but they were wrong. And loading times got better with PSX.

2. Burned bridges - Nintendo, particularly Nintendo of America, had done some dick things to game developers over the years. When the N64 was late to the party, developers didn't feel any obligation to wait for them. Thus Sony was able to buy up all sorts of licensing deals which helped to ensure the N64 would never be a significant threat.

As a result, the N64 had a relatively low amount of titles released for it, including many forgettable ones. The system was more or less carried by Nintendo (Mario 64, Ocarina of Time) and Rare (Goldeneye, Conker) with the occasional third party release (Bomberman 64, Castlevania 64, Wrestlemania 2000) boosting interest in it.
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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 06:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

WE SUCK AGAIN!!!


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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 07:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Just by another PS1, we sell'em for $24.99 to $34.99 depending on the model and controller cleaned and checked. You gotta clean the lens sometimes too. They aren't like cats and clean themselves.


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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 07:43 pm Reply with quote Back to top

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

syd jsut said that castelvania 64 carried the N64.


also, I repalced the spinnning tingy on my PSX wiht one from a sony walkman, and it stopepd scratching cD's.


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I had nothing but love for Castlevania...until it became 3-D. Theres just some games that aren't the same. Such as the Metroid and Castlevania series. Don't get me wrong I still like the new Metroids, just miss the Super Metroid feel.


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PostPosted: Feb 07 2007 08:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I, on the other hand, dislike metroid in 3d. I also dislike zelda in 3d. I enjoyed mario in 3d though, and I enjoyed the LATER (not N64) castelvania's in 3d.


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Thats why I just used the word "like" and not love. Square Enix could change there games into 1D, yes one, and I'd still buy them like I was a crack fiend. Being in my current situation I don't have the "luxury" of saying games are going horribly down the toilet, because the new gamers aren't even aware that games were able to be created and played in 4 bit.

Sad but true after our generation loses our last life, 2-D and preferences will be a thing of the past.


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