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McAfee Really Fucked Up


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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 11:26 am Reply with quote Back to top

Twitter wrote:
QotD: "I’m not sure any virus writer has ever developed a piece of malware that shut down as many machines as quickly as #McAfee did today"

http://search.twitter.com/search?q=mcafee

Quote:
Apparently DAT update 5958 deletes the svchost.exe file, which then triggers a false-positive in McAfee itself and sets off a chain of uncontrolled restarts and loss of networking functionality.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/21/mcafee-update--shutting-down-xp-machines/

NY Times wrote:
McAfee could not say how many computers were affected, but judging by online postings, the number was at least in the thousands and possibly in the hundreds of thousands.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010/04/21/business/AP-US-TEC-McAfee-Antivirus-Flaw.html

Providence Journal wrote:
At one point Wednesday afternoon, the hospitals were diverting all non-emergency care to other facilities and delaying elective surgery as a precaution.

http://newsblog.projo.com/2010/04/faulty-mcafee-update-shuts-dow.html

Since I have written this post there have been 100 new Twitter posts about it. This is huge. We'll have to see just how bad it really is when the mayhem winds down.

I have really disliked McAfee AV for a while, but this is just icing on the cake.



 
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 11:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Jesus Christ.
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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 11:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Boy did I dodge a bullet. I'm stuck using it at home because its what my ISP provides and "recommends" (reads: causes a huge pita if you use something else) and I didn't have any problems. Phew.

What's really unforgivable is the hospital issue. Ugh.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 11:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

What's this talk of pitas?
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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 12:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

PITA = Pain In The Ass.

(...unless that was sarcasm, in which case ignore me completely.)

Pitas, the food, are delicious by the way. Especially with hummus.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 12:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow, I'm dumb.

Although, as a fellow grammarian, I would have expected you to capitalize an acronym.
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username
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 12:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i never heard of PITA, but thats just me.

and wow @ mcafee lol.


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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 01:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Wow, I'm dumb.

Although, as a fellow grammarian, I would have expected you to capitalize an acronym.


Fair enough. I should have. I'm just posting on my phone, and didn't feel like hitting shift-letter-shift-letter and so on. (Trying to be covert because my prof is a "no using phones in the class" type.)

I just read the articles more closely. It seems, if I read right, that this only affected Windows XP. That would explain why it didn't affect me; I'm on Vista.


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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 01:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I could go for a Pita right now... to bad wendy's doesn't serve them anymore.
Anyways, I had McAfee when I first got my pc, but long since removed it since it proved to be absolutely useless when I finally did get a virus. That's when I switched to AVG and now I'm on Super anti Spyware...
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 01:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 01:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

And yet, my dad still swears by this hellish program.
No matter how bad I tell him it his he still says "It's ranked highest by thousands of companies"

I hate this program. I'd much rather use malwarebytes in conjunction with spybot. But if I want to be on his network I have to use the antivirus program he chooses.

If a virus maker makes a virus which doesn't get detected by the latest version of McAfee, on any computer then they can get it infected on the machines of the thousands of companies that use it



 
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 02:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think the antivirus companies are the ones either directly making, or funding the creation of viruses.



 
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 02:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
I think the antivirus companies are the ones either directly making, or funding the creation of viruses.

You are far from the first to suggest it.

I would argue that Microsoft is not in that group though. They would have absolutely no reason to make their OS less secure. It deters people from buying it.

Therefore the only secure AV suite is Security Essentials.

How the fuck did my logic just jump to that conclusion...



 
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 02:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Additional update:

Police Stations, Schools, & More Hospitals were impacted
http://indyposted.com/18841/mcafee-antivirus-glitch-knocks-out-thousands-of-computers-worldwide/

McAfee has issued an apology but swears it only affected .5% of their customers. Oh that's it? So only 1 out of every 200 machines went down? Out of how many millions?



 
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 02:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I have McAffee but I don't think it's the premium version. It said it was an update that screwed things up?

McAffee is up on my toolbar right now but I'm not having any problems, guess I havn't updated in a long time.

That's a huge fuck up.
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 03:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I want to see someone make the end all anti-virus program, and release it for free. I wonder what would happen to all the anti-virus companies out there? They would flame it to no end, say that it itself is a virus, and god knows what else.

Anti-Virus programs are this centuries version of Snake Oil, me thinks.
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Arlock41
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 04:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

McAfee=Skynet
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 04:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Spybot and Malwarebytes are both free.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 05:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Spybot and Malwarebytes are both free.

And, I prove my point:
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/news/2010-04-06.html

Quote:
With recent virus definitions (5938, 2-Apr-2010), McAfee detects the SDShred.exe of Spybot Search & Destroy as Generic.dx!qln (Trojan).

This is a false positive from McAfee that has already been fixed. Please search for new updates (5940, 3-Apr-2010 or later) for your McAfee version.

In case McAfee has deleted any of our files, to get Spybot - Search & Destroy back, please uninstall, then download a fresh copy of Spybot-S&D 1.6.2 and install it.
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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 05:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've only ever heard good things about Kaspersky.


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 07:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Each year the AV suites release new products and they are usually significantly different than their previous versions. Trend Micro used to have a great product, but it got bloated. Norton had a horrible product but it shed a lot of weight.

I still stand by two rules with AV on home machines.

1. It MUST be free
2. It MUST not be annoying



 
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 07:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

define annoying.

and im not trying to be a smartass. i just want to know what you mean


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Apr 22 2010 11:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I personally like Superantispyware myself. It only runs when you tell it to, the rest of the time you never know it's there.
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PostPosted: Apr 23 2010 01:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

I stopped using huge security suites years ago. Both McAfee and Norton both end up taking up too much disk space and too many system resources to be bothered with. I now just use AVG and Malwarebytes.


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PostPosted: Apr 23 2010 06:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

I used to like AVG, but AVG has gotten too bloated and resource intensive for my tastes. Also, it's become really annoying to get AVG to annoy stuff you don't want removed. I use the Alexa toolbar, which monitors your browsing habits for demographic and traffic purposes, and AVG always tried to remove it. In earlier versions, I could make AVG ignore it, but in the newer version, it refuses to it. I would come home to find that AVG had decided to remove Alexa without my consent. Not even quarantined. Removed.
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