I for one, was not cheering. In fact, I consider the 2008 election to be the worst one I've followed, no matter who won.

Pandajuice wrote:

Doddsino wrote: I for one, was not cheering. In fact, I consider the 2008 election to be the worst one I've followed, no matter who won. You must have been very young or not sentient during 2000 and 2004. 2004 was the worst because you had a choice between the slimy Texan cowboy who'd already made a mess and nobody liked or the slimy robot who'd probably just make things worse. At least in 2008, there was someone refreshing and hopeful in the race instead of just another slimy white guy with bad hair.

Race doesn't matter to me. I've grown up my entire life and never seen injustice to one race or the other, and especially in politics. I've lived in urban areas, gone to schools that are very racially integrated and have never seen outright injustice to anyone. So why is it, that 45 years after desegregation that race is important? It shouldn't be important to anyone under the age of like 60, who was around in a time when things weren't equal. I would've never known racism unless I was told about it and how far we've come in 45 years, and we're STILL on race? It really bothers me.

As far as elections? 2000 felt like a change after the debacle Clinton had in office. I never hated Clinton, but the whole scandal he was apart of and the apparent bullshit that went on from there. He didn't get a chance to really lead a country duing that time because he was too busy answering questions about his sex life. Believe me, I was glad to move on from that.

2004 wasn't too bad either. I got to meet Kerry and he wasn't a terrible guy, I didn't vote for him, but he was a better choice than Howard fuckin' Dean or someone.

2008 gave us a year where people specifically pointed to Obama's skin color as if that's a saving factor. Again, the sheer fact people point to your race, really makes me question if they're not the ones who are racis. Then we had McCain who looked like a deer in the headlights and just came off as so pathetic. The only worse choice for Republican nominee would've been Rudy Gulionni.

No it didn't disappear, but thinking it did when we elected our President didn't change anything at all. People are still going to be who they are...that's my point. Guilting someone based on skin color never helps.

I never said it was his saving factor, that's what his supporters were saying. I don't know if I've ever had a conversation with someone about Obama where someone didn't bring up skin color. Maybe if we could look past that, we could actually judge him on the job he's doing.

It's not just the people I talk to, it's the media itself. When Obama was elected, the first thing the media did was directly target the response of black people. It's things like that I find so fucking offensive, because I see two spectrums of racism; those who prey upon another race because of the negative aspects, and those who put them up on a pedastol because of what they are.

I think it would be a nice change if people didn't let their judgement of skin color affect how they think. The only time you should worry about skin color is when you're describing someone, and even then it's not something you should really do that much to begin with. You can't say you're not racist if you're overly nice to another race, simply because it's a popular thing to do. Treat everyone as equals, is that so fucking hard to understand?

Let's just replace race with something like height. Let's say we just elected a guy who was 4'11, and that everyone was praising him because he did something no one else had done, I mean doesn't that just sound silly?