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APLETHORAOFPINATAS
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My fiance and I are meeting with her families Catholic priest this coming week. I know catholics call their preists father does anyone know how I should call them as an episcopalian? Should I still call him father or is mister the way to go?
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SoldierHawk
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If you're asking what should you, as an Episcopalian, call a Catholic priest, I would say go with the accepted form of address for his station--Father. Just like you don't have to be in the military to call someone "General so-and-so," and you don't have to be an academic to call a Ph.D "Doctor." It's just a title they've earned. Similarly, I may not be Catholic, but you can bet that if I ever had occasion to meet a Cardinal or the Pope, I'd be calling them "Your Emminance" and "Your Holiness." Its not really a deceleration of faith as I see it, just respect for their title and position.
Now, since this seems to be a social thing and its the family of your fiance, I assume they'll tell you to just call them by their first name as soon as you try to call one of them 'Father.' Still, I don't think it would hurt. And if it really bugs you, you can always go with just calling them 'sir' until they give you the go-ahead for the first name.
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Call him father. And I doubt he'll tell you to call him by his first name and I wouldn't anyways. Of course many years of Catholic school have programmed me.
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Another vote for calling him "Father." I'm not personally religious at all, but my uncle is a Catholic priest. I address him as Father Edward
Just to add, your GF and her family will probably appreciate you being respectful toward him, regardless of your faith.
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APLETHORAOFPINATAS
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ok, I dont know why I thought otherwise. I think I either heard of someone not referring to them as Father or I merely imagined it in my heretic Anglican mind.
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SoldierHawk
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| Cpt. Fantastic wrote: |
| Call him father. And I doubt he'll tell you to call him by his first name and I wouldn't anyways. Of course many years of Catholic school have programmed me. |
Oh, I totally, TOTALLY read his initial post wrong. For some reason I thought the Priest was *actually part of his fiancee's family.* Now I see he is "the family priest."
That's what I get for reading too quickly lol. In that case, its ABSOLUTELY Father, no exception.
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APLETHORAOFPINATAS
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I certainly wasnt asking this to disrespect him, the reason we are meeting with him is actually completly out of respect. We are having the ceremony inthe Episcopal church but we want to have the Roman Catholic preist there as well.
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^ Oh I don't think anyone took it as disrespect! If anything, the question demonstrates extra respect, because you want to take the time to get the form of address right. That's a great thing.
And have I said congrats on the upcoming marriage yet? If not, congratulations!
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| APLETHORAOFPINATAS wrote: |
| I certainly wasnt asking this to disrespect him, the reason we are meeting with him is actually completly out of respect. We are having the ceremony inthe Episcopal church but we want to have the Roman Catholic preist there as well. |
Congrats, man.
The Catholic priest is willing to perform a ceremony in an Episcopalian Church? That's rare. You usually have to jump through a couple of hoops if you're not Catholic to begin with, and they almost never will perform a service in a church of a different denomination.
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APLETHORAOFPINATAS
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The Catholic priest wouldn't be doing the actual ceremony. Both the episcopal and the Roman Catholic churches say thats a no no. An Episcopal Priest must do the wedding vows for it to valid in the church. That however does not mean that the RC preist can't say a blessing or complete the first set of vows. ( There are 2 vows in the episcopal service, one is promise to God and is personal, the other is the more traditional vow to your Significant other.)
Though ive heard the service is almost identical in the Catholic Church, most everything about the liturgy is word for word identical.
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Calling the priest Father is fine.
If you want to, you could ask him directly. Religious leaders love that type of question. It gives them the chance to express their opinions about the religions that they are devoted to.
This is not disrespectful at all. As long as you ask honestly, they will be happy to answer. I mean it, happy.
Congratulations on your engagement by the way.
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APLETHORAOFPINATAS
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on a side note its a little crazy, when I think about it, they I have never had cause to interact with a Catholic Priest my entire life. I'd say 90% of my childhood friends were catholic.
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Everyone already answered to call him father, but when it doubt you always could've asked your fiance, or just waited to see how she addressed him and followed her lead.
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Call him the n-word. Either he'll either laugh and high five you or he'll say "that is OUR word!" and slap the hell out of you. If he laughs, you're in like Flynn.
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So at this wedding reception...will there be pinatas?
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Call him Pops.
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So, Hawk, if you ran into a General, I know you are obligated to salute and call him, "Sir." But, if two Generals of the same rank. (Say, they're both 2 star,) then how do they address each other? Do they still salute, and call each other "Sir?"
Or, do they just use first names.
Cause, I'm wondering if I run into a Catholic priest someday, how do I address him? I am also an ordained priest, and carry the "Rev" title legally. Do I have to call him, "father" and he has to call me Reverend?"
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^ Huh. I have no idea on the Rev/Father thing. And I'm actually not 100% sure on the official regs for officers of the same rank. I don't believe they salute each other, as they are peers. And all the interaction between officers of the same rank I've seen (Captain to Captain, Second LT to Second LT, etc) has been pretty casual, with them addressing each other by first or last name. I suppose it would be the same with Generals of the same rank, in non-formal settings.
Ash has a lot more experience in the military than I do though, and is probably far more familiar with the regs and traditions. He can probably give you much better insight than I can.
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Ya, I'm Catholic and I think your just supposed to call him Father. What do you call them in the Anglican Church?
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Knyte
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Wait....aren't you suppose to refer to Catholic priests as "The Defendant"?
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SoldierHawk
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| Officers are a special breed, they use first names like they live in a fucking country club. That shit disgusts me. |
And there you have it.
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| SoldierHawk wrote: |
^ Huh. I have no idea on the Rev/Father thing. And I'm actually not 100% sure on the official regs for officers of the same rank. I don't believe they salute each other, as they are peers. And all the interaction between officers of the same rank I've seen (Captain to Captain, Second LT to Second LT, etc) has been pretty casual, with them addressing each other by first or last name. I suppose it would be the same with Generals of the same rank, in non-formal settings.
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I can tell you this, officers are a special breed. They do quite often call each other by their first names, especially if they are of equal rank. What they do not realize is when they go by first name in front of enlisted men it disgusts us, makes them look like they came straight from the country club (just something un-military about calling someone Brent) I try to call everyone by their rank and last name, shit even if your a Private, you earned the right to be called Private so and so. Some officers aren't like this and choose to display tact and professionalism, but those ones are 99% prior enlisted.
EDIT: Fuck me running that was a fast quote Hawk. I realized that post could come back to bite me in the ass so I decided to reword it but apparently I was too late.
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| Ya, I'm Catholic and I think your just supposed to call him Father. What do you call them in the Anglican Church? |
I believe you call them Vicar.
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| JimmyLazer wrote: |
| Ya, I'm Catholic and I think your just supposed to call him Father. What do you call them in the Anglican Church? |
I believe you call them Vicar. |
Exactly.
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Knyte
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Or "Vicar Sergeant", if you call one when you have a dead Bishop on the landing.
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