Pandajuice wrote:

Be honest all you want and go ahead and think that, but that's not how the real world works mate. You don't give a fuck, fine, but the city does and therefore, you must. We're not talking about bumfuck Yorkshire here. We're talking Los Angeles, California where city governments are almost as powerful as the federal government and like I keep saying, Californian building codes are insane. You can't just rip your lawn up and put down wood chips without getting permission from the city and possibly your neighbors.

I am not referring to the government legislation. I totally appreciate their regulations via zoning laws and planning permission. I'm not going to break the law over that.

I still think the neighbourhood thing is bullshit. Take a scenario were i want my lawn some way and it is allowed by the government i should be allowed to do it. If other people do not like it that is their problem. What your neighbours think is not law. Hence it is their problem.

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You're right, it is a bit insane. California prides itself on turning deserts into oases, using non-native deciduous plants that need a lot of water in 110 degree Southern California. People always moan about droughts, but I lived in California for 25 years and was never impacted by a lack of water. My lifestyle never changed no matter how hot it got or how "scarce" water became. I don't care where they get the water from, they succeed in doing it all the time and will continue to do so. Humans will never let water run out or get to dangerous levels.

You may not care but California is not using water sustainably and eventually it will fuck everything up.

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I'm not sure where you get your data from or what reality you live in, but I can get a 5 gallon jug of fresh water for less than a pound at the supermarket. A gallon is about 4.5 litres. That means I can get 22.5 litres of pure, fresh, bottled water for 90p. Petrol (gasoline) costs £1.10 per litre atm.

I am not basing it on American units or stuff that is bought there. When i buy a litre of water its usually about 95p-115p. Petrol is less than that here at the moment.

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I've only lived in the UK for 5 years and haven't ever experienced a whiff of a drought, but I can tell you living in the North East (West Yorkshire), the thought of a water shortage makes me burst out laughing. This is an area where it rains 270 out of 360 days of the year. This country literally drowns in water from what I've seen anyway.

There hasn't been droughts in the last 5 years. Just because it rains alot doesn't mean you have water.. It rains about the same if not more than that in NI and we have little water. Most of our water is lost by overland flow etc. On saying that its better for you in England since you have proper water management - we don't.

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Like I said before, humans will invent something or sort out a water shortage before it becomes a problem. The world isn't going to die from mass dehaydration because we drank all of the rivers.

The water shortage is a problem already in some countries. In Nigeria it's a serious problem. Don't forget water isn't just used for humans.. there has to be a balance and considering Nigeria primarily relies on Agriculture they are fucked due to the lack of water there.

Someone said desalinisation. I always thought that was viable too but it's very expensive. It's just not removing the salt. Cleaning has to be done and it has to get piped their and out as well as the danger of contaminating current water supplies.

Look at Florida it has had problems in the past with getting water and a lot of their water got contaminated. I wondered why it tasted of chlorine when i got there..