This is why I hate australia. They have Censorship laws that would make Germany say WOAH DUDE THATS TOO MUCH.
Did you know It's now illiegal in australia to be in porn if you're a flat chested female.
Geez... not all guys like huge honkers...
I believe there was a time when money shots weren't allowed in any porn sold in Canada.
thats a random piece of trivia to have in the old noggin.
at any rate, i heard this song of kid selzy and it didnt seem too profane to me. but then again, profane is a subjective term as RGS mentioned on the previous page.
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Posted:
Mar 06 2010 03:24 pm
Pandajuice wrote:
nihilisticglee wrote:
From what I read in the article, he opened the door to help with mother bring groceries bags to the car. He left the door open, and while the cops couldn't hear it with the door shut, apparently they could with the door open.
This is only judging from the wording of the article linked.
Come on guys. Do you really believe that's what happened? A guy quietly enjoying his selection of profanity riddled and no doubt violent rap music sweetly and innocently opened the car door to help his poor, ailing mother and the evil cops jumped on him in an attempt to ban rap music forever!
Wake up.
The idea that someone helps another person put away groceries , doesn't sound that far- fetched.
Give the kid a citation or a ticket. He mouths off? Give him another one. Then move on. Simple as that.
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Posted:
Mar 06 2010 03:51 pm
UsaSatsui wrote:
Context is important. Swearing in a public argument or during a demonstration is fine, but cursing a blue streak to a police officer is gonna get you arrested.
There is nothing illegal about cursing at a police officer so long as the speech doesn't fall into the category of "fighting words" and the mode of the speech doesn't violate some other ordinance (e.g. blocking a sidewalk while professing your hatred of the cops or causing such a scene as to rise to disorderly conduct). I have cursed at cops before, both in the heat of a discussions and coldly because he was being a dick. Yeah they don't like it, but they can't do anything about it.
That said, it isn't a good idea to curse at cops. Or anyone. That's just crappy behavior.
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Mar 06 2010 03:58 pm
His rights to play loud/offensive music ended the second somebody else heard it. He has the right to listen to whatever kind of music he wants but he does not have the right to make other people have to listen to it also.
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nihilisticglee
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Posted:
Mar 06 2010 06:02 pm
Pandajuice wrote:
nihilisticglee wrote:
From what I read in the article, he opened the door to help with mother bring groceries bags to the car. He left the door open, and while the cops couldn't hear it with the door shut, apparently they could with the door open.
This is only judging from the wording of the article linked.
Come on guys. Do you really believe that's what happened? A guy quietly enjoying his selection of profanity riddled and no doubt violent rap music sweetly and innocently opened the car door to help his poor, ailing mother and the evil cops jumped on him in an attempt to ban rap music forever!
Wake up.
Now that is not true, the article said nothing about his mother being sick!
But no, I don't see it falling that way, and I don't see the cops as the bad guys in this situation. They pulled in when the kid was helping his mother with the groceries bags, heard the music, and did what they were trained to do. Personally, I think that is more of a problem with the law allowing no buffer time for people if they rush out to help someone.
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Posted:
Mar 06 2010 06:08 pm
or, they couldve asked him to turn his radio down. his shit was too fucking loud.
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nihilisticglee
Joined: Oct 12 2007
Posts: 821
Posted:
Mar 06 2010 06:12 pm
Indeed, that would have work too, yay for being unable to come up with simple solutions when sick?
Alowishus
Joined: Aug 04 2009
Posts: 2515
Posted:
Mar 06 2010 06:20 pm
To be honest it seems that Australia is just going to shit.
Their gaming bans, pornography bans, internet censorship, now this?
Thank god i don't live there.
UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
Joined: May 25 2008
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Posted:
Mar 06 2010 07:13 pm
Cpt. Fantastic wrote:
UsaSatsui wrote:
Context is important. Swearing in a public argument or during a demonstration is fine, but cursing a blue streak to a police officer is gonna get you arrested.
There is nothing illegal about cursing at a police officer so long as the speech doesn't fall into the category of "fighting words" and the mode of the speech doesn't violate some other ordinance (e.g. blocking a sidewalk while professing your hatred of the cops or causing such a scene as to rise to disorderly conduct).
It may not get you convicted of anything. But it will probably still get you arrested anyways. It'll probably tip an officer from the "just a warning" side of the scale to "taking you in", and if there's no actual violation going on (why are you cussing the cop out then?), you probably will get popped for disorderly conduct.
There's a douchbag factor involved. A lot of young men delight in tooling around in cars with obnoxiously loud music. I used to do it, but sometime around the age of 22 or 23 I realized what a tool I was being and turned my stereo down.
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Location: Australia
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Posted:
Mar 07 2010 09:31 am
Yeah, laws here in Australia are just getting ridiculous . I work in a Post Office and its illegal to send any lithium battery by air, which fucks a lot of people.
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Mar 07 2010 01:42 pm
The song isn't that vulgar overall, but if it was playing the end of the song there'd definitely be an issue. (And the chorus into the second verse would probably be an issue as well)
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Mar 07 2010 02:24 pm
Not to mention it's awful.
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Mar 07 2010 03:45 pm
Dr. Jeebus wrote:
The song isn't that vulgar overall, but if it was playing the end of the song there'd definitely be an issue. (And the chorus into the second verse would probably be an issue as well)
i dont know if that was the song he was listening to, its just the first one that popped up on youtube.
joshwoodzy wrote:
Not to mention it's awful.
yes, it is pretty crappy.
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Mar 07 2010 03:55 pm
But it's hilarious cause he has an Australian accent!
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Mar 07 2010 04:43 pm
I picture everyone from Mass. talking like Mayor Quimby.
Berserk007
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 02:10 am
It really just sounds like bored law enforcement to me. Best case scenario a warning (which I highly doubt they offered) worst case scenario a disturbing the peace charge. Australia obviously sets it's own laws, but the idea that the content (not volume) of what someone enjoys gets a cops panties in a bunch enough to slap a public indecency charge on a kid is amazingly absurd. People are way too stuck up these days, granted I would not want to have young kids overhearing lyrics in a parking lot, but either way there has to be a medium stance between a pussy to scared to go up to the window and tell him to turn it down and a officer that will beat you with a hose for looking at him in his good eye. Way to heavy handed based on the little I know of this.
For whatever reason I get the impression it went something like this. (Imagine the kids out of video and put a 19 year old in a car playing rap music.)
Granted they were smart asses but you know what....they are kids...they are supposed to be.
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Pandajuice
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 07:24 am
No, only punk kids smartass a cop. When I was a kid, I knew the one person I had to be polite to was a policeman. I'm all for cops (and teachers) getting jiggy with punkass kids to teach them a few lessons.
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 07:33 am
I think cops should be allowed to dropkick skateboarders in every state.
Deadmau_5pra
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 09:36 am
I AM NOT A DUDE, A DUDE IS SOMEONE THAT WORKS AT A RANCH, I'M ABOV- NO FUCK THAT, I AM THE LAW!!!!
The situation in the video was another one of those were a simple hefty ticket would've done justice, they would've grabbed their shit found another spot to half kill themselves and the officer would still have his job.
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 03:29 pm
IceWarm wrote:
His rights to play loud/offensive music ended the second somebody else heard it. He has the right to listen to whatever kind of music he wants but he does not have the right to make other people have to listen to it also.
Unless he pays for a spot right? You people are fucking nuts, I swear. We live with other humans on this world. You're going to hear things you don't want to hear. Get over it.
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 04:44 pm
Burt Reynolds wrote:
IceWarm wrote:
His rights to play loud/offensive music ended the second somebody else heard it. He has the right to listen to whatever kind of music he wants but he does not have the right to make other people have to listen to it also.
Unless he pays for a spot right? You people are fucking nuts, I swear. We live with other humans on this world. You're going to hear things you don't want to hear. Get over it.
To an extent, yes. It's unreasonable to assume that you have the right to be protected from anything you don't want to see or hear. But if someone is obnoxiously doing something loud and disruptive in a public area, the rights of the general public should take priority over the right of one person to be obnoxious.
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 05:09 pm
Ice2SeeYou wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
IceWarm wrote:
His rights to play loud/offensive music ended the second somebody else heard it. He has the right to listen to whatever kind of music he wants but he does not have the right to make other people have to listen to it also.
Unless he pays for a spot right? You people are fucking nuts, I swear. We live with other humans on this world. You're going to hear things you don't want to hear. Get over it.
To an extent, yes. It's unreasonable to assume that you have the right to be protected from anything you don't want to see or hear. But if someone is obnoxiously doing something loud and disruptive in a public area, the rights of the general public should take priority over the right of one person to be obnoxious.
And in the case of loud music you politely ask them to turn it down, and that's the end of the altercation.
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Posted:
Mar 08 2010 06:03 pm
Burt Reynolds wrote:
Ice2SeeYou wrote:
Burt Reynolds wrote:
IceWarm wrote:
His rights to play loud/offensive music ended the second somebody else heard it. He has the right to listen to whatever kind of music he wants but he does not have the right to make other people have to listen to it also.
Unless he pays for a spot right? You people are fucking nuts, I swear. We live with other humans on this world. You're going to hear things you don't want to hear. Get over it.
To an extent, yes. It's unreasonable to assume that you have the right to be protected from anything you don't want to see or hear. But if someone is obnoxiously doing something loud and disruptive in a public area, the rights of the general public should take priority over the right of one person to be obnoxious.
And in the case of loud music you politely ask them to turn it down, and that's the end of the altercation.
Unless they refuse to turn it down.
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