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Preng
Title: All right, that's cool!
Joined: Jan 11 2010
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 03:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

Arlock41 wrote:
My only problem with Fallout 3 is that it has a drab color scheme, otherwise it's awesome especially The Mysterious Stranger perk.


The Mysterious Stranger showed up after I had whittled down a Super Mutant Behemoth to like one bar of health life. I was amused and pissed at the same time 'cause I used up a ton of ammunition, and then he just janitor'd me after all of my effort.

Apparently his gun does 9,000 damage per shot.
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 05:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

I like how the Mysterious Stranger will even follow you into space when you're on Mothership Zeta. I actually shot his ass in VATS one time some fucking way. I took my first shot, reloaded then fired again, crippling his head as he suddenly appeared. He shook it off after a couple seconds then took his shots and vanished but it was funny as hell.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 05:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

What's that perk that causes any enemies who die to explode? I don't like that one, if I headshot a raider with a magnum I can understand their head exploding, but why do their arms and legs fly off too? Confused



 
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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 05:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

Bloody Mess. That one does tend to get annoying in the long run, the gore gets old and the 5% damage increase isn't really worth it.


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Lady_Satine
Title: Head of Lexian R&D
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 05:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Bloody Mess. That one does tend to get annoying in the long run, the gore gets old and the 5% damage increase isn't really worth it.

Don't you need it so you can loot the corpse of a church sniper? Hoping a limb lands on the ground you can reach.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 05:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sometimes, I've killed him without it and had him just pitch forward out the window.


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Alowishus
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 08:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

Preng wrote:
Alowishus wrote:
I picked it up today and will give my thoughts in the coming days. I've heard it's riddled with bugs though, i will soon see myself.

Yeah, there are quite a few. I'd recommend saving often. Sometimes the game will freeze up or produce stretchy graphical glitch errors, so it's good to have a recent save to reload just in case.

- SPOILER POST - albeit only about 30minutes in




From what i have played so far it's been an amusing and different experience. I like how there's the decision to do pretty much do what you actually want. In most RPG styled games i've played there's a few choices you have to make which can impact the storyline slightly or in some games there's a big choice you make at the end.

I like how you get the option to choose what you say and how that impacts - albeit there's still a finite number of responses but in terms of actions who to kill etc. there's alot more it allows you to build character e.g.

That fucker Butch who taunted me all through my childhood, when i finally got to escape and he was like "My moms getting molested by the cockroach things" i said i would help and then proceeded to attempt to kill him with my pistol and when the Active time thing ran out and he tried to escape it was clubbing time.

On saying that i did attempt to help his mother and she was dead by the time i got there so i just looted her haha.

There has been problems mainly the hacking into the Overseers computer to escape, i don't even get what your meant to do, it's not like picking a lock where your given an action it just presents you with a password screen and that's that, maybe my skill in science wasn't high enough. However after i exhausted all my attempts i turn round to see the Overseer standing there and POP he disappeared, couldn't find him anywhere so it was a reload autosave moment. - i did kill the overseer then that girl bitched at me - WHAT WAS I TO DO? I couldn't get the password?!

I should enjoy it the game though if i get to make hilarious decisions.
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 02:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I liked the hacking sequences, much more interesting than Bioshock's pipe dreamsesqe hacking. Once you figure out the trick it's pretty simple each time.

TIP* If you have three attempts and fail the first to, log out and back in, it resets each time, thus saving you the hassle of tracking down a key if you fucked up, or giving up forever if it doesn't have one.

What's that perk where you can collect fingers and sell them to the bad guys in the Junk Yard? I used to just scatter them all in the sink of the Megaton House. I had a giant pile of pre war money on the bed too.



 
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Greg the White
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 08:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
I liked the hacking sequences, much more interesting than Bioshock's pipe dreamsesqe hacking. Once you figure out the trick it's pretty simple each time.

TIP* If you have three attempts and fail the first to, log out and back in, it resets each time, thus saving you the hassle of tracking down a key if you fucked up, or giving up forever if it doesn't have one.

What's that perk where you can collect fingers and sell them to the bad guys in the Junk Yard? I used to just scatter them all in the sink of the Megaton House. I had a giant pile of pre war money on the bed too.

There's two perks, one is the contract killer perk, where you collect ears for bad karma, or the lawman perk, where you collect fingers for good karma.


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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Jan 23 2010 09:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I never played the others and LOVED this game. I started a second playthrough that I might re-do. It's one of my top 10 favorite games of all time for sure, probably top 5.

There are so many little tips that I never used on the first playthrough that it feels like I have so much to do in the game still even though I've beaten it through Broken Steel and am level 29 or 30.


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Lady_Satine
Title: Head of Lexian R&D
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PostPosted: Jan 24 2010 01:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Alowishus wrote:
That fucker Butch who taunted me all through my childhood, when i finally got to escape and he was like "My moms getting molested by the cockroach things" i said i would help and then proceeded to attempt to kill him with my pistol and when the Active time thing ran out and he tried to escape it was clubbing time.

On saying that i did attempt to help his mother and she was dead by the time i got there so i just looted her haha.

I managed to convince him to "man up" with 37% success. He beat them up and gave me a jacket.

As for the hacking, look for strings in the code with either brackets or parantheses, highlight over them right and you can delte one of the words each time.


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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Jan 24 2010 07:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I tried getting into it again last night but ended up wandering around. With a 14% chance of success I manage to convince Three Dog to just tell me where my dad is every time :S.

Things just don't feel right this playthrough with Megaton gone.


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Black Zarak
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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 11:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hahaha, I almost always blow up Megaton, whether I'm good or evil. I just like the Tenpenny apartment more. Plus, the first time I did it, I really just did it to kill Moira because I hate her. Imagine my surprise (and anger!) to find her wandering the blast crater as a ghoul. Of all the people to survive...

Kinda sucks though, because I can't do the quests related to the water caravans in Broken Steel because Megaton is gone.


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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 01:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
Hahaha, I almost always blow up Megaton, whether I'm good or evil. I just like the Tenpenny apartment more. Plus, the first time I did it, I really just did it to kill Moira because I hate her. Imagine my surprise (and anger!) to find her wandering the blast crater as a ghoul. Of all the people to survive...

Kinda sucks though, because I can't do the quests related to the water caravans in Broken Steel because Megaton is gone.


If you wait till Broken Steel to blow up Megaton, you can make several more people ghouls (though they don't live in Megaton, just around it), as well as complete the Holy Water quest. Pretty cool addition if you are willing to wait that long to blow it up.

Also, if you want the Ghoul Mask, you risk your Suite, due in part to a bug.

To address an early point, now that I officially own Fallout 3, I can say that indeed, it and Borderlands are different experiences, but they are going to be compared, due in part to sharing a similar genre. Honestly, it is going to come down to personal preference, like with old school Sonic and Mario, and I still prefer Borderlands. However, I have been having a lot of fun running around the wasteland punching the shit out of anything that moves, so Fallout has that going for it. Unarmed ftw!
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Preng
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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 01:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Black Zarak wrote:
...I really just did it to kill Moira because I hate her.


And that's the only reason you need. Seriously, one should get good karma points for offing her.
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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 01:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've avoided this thread because I've bought the game but have yet to play it...just wanted to say I've heard nothing but good things and am looking forward to booting it up this week.


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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 02:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SPOILER






























The trick to hacking is that when you see the screen pop up you'll have to notice sequences like {!@$#}!)%*&!()%!&+_!&%!(_} Which with in it, there will be a string of symbols that will give you either Dud code removed or replenish the amount of times you can guess... for example () will highlight up. Select it and you'll get a dud removed or replenishment. {!@$#} could also highlight and give you the same results. The best thing to do is guess the first three, then look through out the screen for the strings of symbols like that to get rid of the dud's or get a refill.
One other thing, the last group of symbols, (_} will not work. The brackets need to match on entry and end. Yet something like (_} !@#!%(&!^%(!&#%(!#%) could work for the whole thing. You have to select the first symbol of the string to get it.
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Zephyr_Arsland
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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 08:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi there, long time no see.

I played FO3 in October 2008, just when it came out, and didn't like it. Having played the original two (and some FO: Tactics too) back in the day, I couldn't relate to this "Oblivion with guns" thing. The atmosphere was quite good, they nailed down even the lil' details, but eventually I gave up a little after Rivet City. It felt wrong, like an arcade version of Fallout or something.

...fast forward to August 2009...

I had completed FO2 for the nth time when I decided to give FO3 another chance. And I'm glad I did. It finally dawned on me. Being that FO and FO2 are some of the best RPGs I've ever played, I couldn't stop comparing them with FO3, and they're nothing alike. I was *biased*. I removed the blindfold of bias from my eyes and enjoyed the game for what it is, a RPGesque FPS in the Fallout world. And I liked it a lot.

Still, I completed it in a week or so, and felt like something was missing. The wasted potential. The game felt like it could be so *much* more... and then I remembered. Bethesda had done it in the past with The Elder Scrolls series: Ship a nice, playable and enjoyable game, and let the modders turn it into a effin' masterpiece. So I started hunting for FO3 mods. And THEN the real fun began. I could turn up the challenge with so many realism mods and whatnot.

So, if you finished FO3 (PC only!) and are hungry for more, look for some mods to spice things up =)


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Slayer1
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PostPosted: Jan 25 2010 09:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Zephyr_Arsland wrote:

Still, I completed it in a week or so, and felt like something was missing. The wasted potential. The game felt like it could be so *much* more... and then I remembered. Bethesda had done it in the past with The Elder Scrolls series: Ship a nice, playable and enjoyable game, and let the modders turn it into a effin' masterpiece. So I started hunting for FO3 mods. And THEN the real fun began. I could turn up the challenge with so many realism mods and whatnot.

So, if you finished FO3 (PC only!) and are hungry for more, look for some mods to spice things up =)


That's kind of why I play more Games on my pc is for the mods, but for Fallout, I got it on PS3 for the damn trophies plus the ability to play it without lag...
Has anyone else had this issue with the lawman perk where the person where you give the fingers to dissappeared?
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Ash Burton
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2010 10:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

What you are talking about is the Regulators HQ, and yes she does vanish. Before you enter the HQ ensure that you are not engaged in any battle outside. If you are all the "regulators" (including the finger collector) will flee. When she goes outside she will get slaughtered by a Deathclaw because her duster is not the most premium of armor. I reverse pickpocketed her and placed some better armor just in case.


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Slayer1
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PostPosted: Jan 27 2010 06:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ash Burton wrote:
What you are talking about is the Regulators HQ, and yes she does vanish. Before you enter the HQ ensure that you are not engaged in any battle outside. If you are all the "regulators" (including the finger collector) will flee. When she goes outside she will get slaughtered by a Deathclaw because her duster is not the most premium of armor. I reverse pickpocketed her and placed some better armor just in case.

Well she did fight some bugs but damnit... that's a damn shame...
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