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A Christmas Carol . . . again.


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ReeperTheSeeker
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PostPosted: Nov 07 2009 04:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

So no one Has posted this yet . . . has anyone seen this newer version yet? I haven't but i have heard the reviews:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/1065-A-Christmas-Carol

A more fateful interpretation that is so flashy it becomes a mess? is this true? My mom loves the christmas carol movies and is wondering how this one is. She's not a fan of carry so if the film itself is redeemable, maybe she will see it.

Also i have to ask, why the hell is there a Christmas movie in the first week of November! I get that christmas is the most commercially successful holiday of the year and business cant wait to sell their crap but wouldn't this movie have been more successful or at least have a better turn out if it was released in December?

Heck, i knew of it but i didn't know it was released this week.


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PostPosted: Nov 07 2009 07:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

A Christmas Carol is a strange thing. It's an important story that every generation needs, and thus, everyone has their preferred version of it. This is just this generation's Carol and the kids that see it today will proclaim it as their favorite version 10 years from now.

Personally, for my money, the 1984 George C. Scott version is the definitive telling and there's no better take on Dickens' classic tale, especially not Disney-fied CG rehashes.
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PostPosted: Nov 07 2009 08:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The best version of this eternal classic contained a most memorable dialogue:

Frank Cross: I want to see her nipples.
Censor Lady: But this is a CHRISTMAS show.
Frank Cross: Well, Im sure Charles Dickens would have wanted to see her nipples.
Carpenter: You can barely see them nipples.
Frank Cross: See? And these guys are REALLY looking.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Nov 07 2009 08:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Best versions of A Christmas Carol are:

The Muppet Christmas Carol
Mickey's Christmas Carol
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Optimist With Doubts
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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 12:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

I am such a whore for Christmas carol I love every adaptation, even the crappy tv ones. I might even watch ghosts of girlfriends past one day. So I will catch this one.


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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 12:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

If anyone has read the actual book, they'll realize that Scrooge wasn't even written as a bitter old man, but as a middle aged man, slightly older than Cratchit. Why the hell would Dickens write Scrooge to be this bitter old man? It's even more obvious when you look to the 3 ghosts, past, present and future. If Scrooge is this old fuck, then future isn't far off anyways right? Even if he made a transformation, he's not going to have long to enjoy it. So yes, almost every adaptation of Scrooge has fucked up his age....well except one.

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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 12:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The Muppet Christmas Carol


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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 12:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

My favorite adaptation was the Beavis and Butthead Christmas special.


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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 02:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
The Muppet Christmas Carol


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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 06:35 am Reply with quote Back to top

I always liked "Halloween IV", that one episode of Roseanne where she is visited by the ghosts of Halloween past, future and present.



 
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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 08:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
I am such a whore for Christmas carol I love every adaptation, even the crappy tv ones. I might even watch ghosts of girlfriends past one day. So I will catch this one.

Do I remember seeing a TV movie with Vanessa Williams as Scrooge?
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PostPosted: Nov 08 2009 09:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Optimist With Doubts wrote:
I am such a whore for Christmas carol I love every adaptation, even the crappy tv ones. I might even watch ghosts of girlfriends past one day. So I will catch this one.

Do I remember seeing a TV movie with Vanessa Williams as Scrooge?

that is correct sir


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PostPosted: Nov 09 2009 07:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Who needs to reminise on their life, when they can eat cereal instead?



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PostPosted: Nov 09 2009 03:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
I am such a whore for Christmas carol I love every adaptation, even the crappy tv ones. I might even watch ghosts of girlfriends past one day. So I will catch this one.


I completely agree, and I love the book, too. Dickens' language is so beautiful to listen to. And the story is wonderful as well. Neither get old no matter how many times I hear them. In fact, the highlight of my theatre career was getting to play Scrooge in a high school production of Christmas Carol. (The director didn't set out to cast a female but I insisted on auditioning because I loved the character so much, and he said I ended up being the one who could handle the language the best. It worked out pretty damn well.)

Best version to me by far is Alastair Sims. He's one of my favorite old-time actors anyway, and this is without a doubt one of his finest performances. That scene at the end where he's sitting at his desk waiting for Bob to come in to work (and then right after, when he gives him a big raise) is just beautiful, and never fails to make me happy.


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PostPosted: Nov 11 2009 03:59 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry for the double post...don't want to sit around waiting for someone to revive this so I can give my two cents though.

Just got back from seeing it. As a big (like, HUGE) fan of the original story, I really enjoyed the fact that they kept so true to the lines and dialogue from the book. When I can quote great chunks of Dickens along with the movie, that's a good sign (at least for me, I'm a lit nerd Razz ).

Animation: beautiful. Acting: fantastic, especially Jim Carrey, who I was SURE would be distracting, especially being in all three major roles, but no, he did a wonderful job. Colin Firth as Scrooge's nephew was actually the standout bit of casting for me; he was absolutely letter perfect. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a better take on the character, actingwise or lookswise. This will never, ever replace the Alastair Sims version, but its a damn good one nonetheless.

Really, there is only one big flaw, but that flaw is fucking HUGE, and, while it doesn't kill the movie, it does take everything the movie (and the story itself) does well and brings it to a grinding halt. Someone, in infinite stupidity, decided that A Christmas Carol needed action scenes. No, seriously. I'm not talking about the cool effects of Scrooge and the various ghosts flying around London, those work well enough, but give me a break: Christmas Past launching Scrooge through the air like a rocket ship? And (worst and most drawn out of all) a five minute sequence of Scrooge being chanced by the devil-horse drawn buggy (yes you read that right) of Christmas Past? This is a Christmas Carol, not The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. This story is supposed to be a quiet one, about one single man, his life, his emotions, his choices, and the change that is planted and grows throughout the course of the story. Every single time you loose focus of this to pause for a CGI jerkoff, you ruin the (absolutely perfect) pacing of the story, and force people to refocus once things calm down again. This is not, NOT good. Its distracting, kills the mood, and ultimately undermines the story itself. Boo to that.

With that pretty large caveat though, this version is still damn good. I like how they handed all the ghosts, especially Past. Its always fun to see how movies handle Past, since he's undoubtedly the ghost that allows the most leeway in terms of design and interaction. They did very cool things with him here. Christmas Present was the way he always is; deviating from his classic image at this point would probably be a bad idea. And Christmas Past...was a little weird. Still unsure if I like it. I'm willing to accept, if not embrace, it, lets leave it that way.


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ReeperTheSeeker
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PostPosted: Nov 11 2009 01:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
Sorry for the double post...don't want to sit around waiting for someone to revive this so I can give my two cents though.

Just got back from seeing it. As a big (like, HUGE) fan of the original story, I really enjoyed the fact that they kept so true to the lines and dialogue from the book. When I can quote great chunks of Dickens along with the movie, that's a good sign (at least for me, I'm a lit nerd Razz ).

Animation: beautiful. Acting: fantastic, especially Jim Carrey, who I was SURE would be distracting, especially being in all three major roles, but no, he did a wonderful job. Colin Firth as Scrooge's nephew was actually the standout bit of casting for me; he was absolutely letter perfect. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a better take on the character, actingwise or lookswise. This will never, ever replace the Alastair Sims version, but its a damn good one nonetheless.

Really, there is only one big flaw, but that flaw is fucking HUGE, and, while it doesn't kill the movie, it does take everything the movie (and the story itself) does well and brings it to a grinding halt. Someone, in infinite stupidity, decided that A Christmas Carol needed action scenes. No, seriously. I'm not talking about the cool effects of Scrooge and the various ghosts flying around London, those work well enough, but give me a break: Christmas Past launching Scrooge through the air like a rocket ship? And (worst and most drawn out of all) a five minute sequence of Scrooge being chanced by the devil-horse drawn buggy (yes you read that right) of Christmas Past? This is a Christmas Carol, not The Legend of Sleepy Hollow. This story is supposed to be a quiet one, about one single man, his life, his emotions, his choices, and the change that is planted and grows throughout the course of the story. Every single time you loose focus of this to pause for a CGI jerkoff, you ruin the (absolutely perfect) pacing of the story, and force people to refocus once things calm down again. This is not, NOT good. Its distracting, kills the mood, and ultimately undermines the story itself. Boo to that.

With that pretty large caveat though, this version is still damn good. I like how they handed all the ghosts, especially Past. Its always fun to see how movies handle Past, since he's undoubtedly the ghost that allows the most leeway in terms of design and interaction. They did very cool things with him here. Christmas Present was the way he always is; deviating from his classic image at this point would probably be a bad idea. And Christmas Past...was a little weird. Still unsure if I like it. I'm willing to accept, if not embrace, it, lets leave it that way.


your assessment is the same as moviebob's. I'm actually curious to see this movie now, i just might over the weekend. Thanks for the review hawk!


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PostPosted: Nov 11 2009 03:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:

your assessment is the same as moviebob's. I'm actually curious to see this movie now, i just might over the weekend. Thanks for the review hawk!


Moviebob reviewed this one! Shocked How did I miss that! I watch all of his reviews! Must go seek it out!

Glad we agreed though; we do tend to have similar taste which is why I like him so much.


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PostPosted: Nov 11 2009 06:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The Blackadder Christmas Carol is hilarious.
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