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With Halo 3, I was embarassed to be a gamer, and an American under the age of 30. I remember seeing news reports where some 20-something, awkward nerd was being handed the first copy of the game by some no-doubt-glad-he-was-wearing-a-masked-costumed guy in a Master Chief outfit while little kids looked on in jealousy. I was visiting my folks from college when it was on, and I got so god-damned embarrassed for my generation when it came on, that I went back to my dorms.

And with GTAIV, whether you hated it or loved it, you can't tell me you didn't get sick of seeing ads on TV, websites, radio, etc. when it was coming out.

Posted: Sep 23 2009 01:02 pm

I don't really get the Halo 3 hype, either.

I first played Halo 1 about a year ago. I downloaded it off Xbox Live on a whim, figuring I'd see what all the hype was about. It was a decent game, but certainly not overwhelming in any way. On another whim, I picked up Halo 2 as well. This time I only got about halfway through it before getting bored. I never finished it.

Gears of War, on the other hand, I found to be incredible. The need to take cover turned what would be an ordinary shooter into a strategy game with shooting involved.

Not to mention the characters and environments are far more varied and interesting. Why does everyone think Master Chief is so cool? He hardly says anything. (I've always felt the same way about Boba Fett in Star Wars.....why all the hype? He's on screen for like 5 minutes total, and has like 3 lines).

Posted: Sep 23 2009 02:05 pm

Yeah personally I feel like I can identify more with the human soldiers from ODST than the superhuman Master Chief.

Posted: Sep 23 2009 03:49 pm

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

(I've always felt the same way about Boba Fett in Star Wars.....why all the hype? He's on screen for like 5 minutes total, and has like 3 lines).

in the EU he kicks ass.

but aside from the EU, Darth Vader specifically singles him out and tells him 'no disintegrations!' so, you automatically know hes a badass if darth vader singles him out. and he has a jetpack that can fly. no one else could. at least in the original trilogy.

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Ice2SeeYou wrote:

Why does everyone think Master Chief is so cool? He hardly says anything. (I've always felt the same way about Boba Fett in Star Wars.....why all the hype? He's on screen for like 5 minutes total, and has like 3 lines).

I did a thread regarding Boba Fett more than year ago. Aside from being a pain in the ass to kill in Shadows Of The Empire, I didn't see what was so damn legendary about him either.

Master Chief...I'll say this for him. After the first level of one of the games, he's all like "Permission to leave sir?"

"For what?"

"To give the Covenant back their bomb."

"permission granted"

Drops out of a hatch with only the bomb, drops it on the alien ship, ship goes KABLOOEY!, and he falls on the planet completely unscathed. That's the shit Duke Nukem is made of.

Posted: Sep 23 2009 04:00 pm

JRA wrote:

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

Why does everyone think Master Chief is so cool? He hardly says anything. (I've always felt the same way about Boba Fett in Star Wars.....why all the hype? He's on screen for like 5 minutes total, and has like 3 lines).

I did a thread regarding Boba Fett more than year ago. Aside from being a pain in the ass to kill in Shadows Of The Empire, I didn't see what was so damn legendary about him either.

Master Chief...I'll say this for him. After the first level of one of the games, he's all like "Permission to leave sir?"

"For what?"

"To give the Covenant back their bomb."

"permission granted"

Drops out of a hatch with only the bomb, drops it on the alien ship, ship goes KABLOOEY!, and he falls on the planet completely unscathed. That's the shit Duke Nukem is made of.

that was the start of part 2. too bad nothing else was that memorable in that game (besides online multiplayer)

Joined: May 05 2007 Posts: 40

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

I don't really get the Halo 3 hype, either.

I first played Halo 1 about a year ago. I downloaded it off Xbox Live on a whim, figuring I'd see what all the hype was about. It was a decent game, but certainly not overwhelming in any way. On another whim, I picked up Halo 2 as well. This time I only got about halfway through it before getting bored. I never finished it.

The thing is Halo 1 was the Xbox’s equivalent to Goldeneye
Both games have good single player and multiplayer component, good replay ability, easy to pick up and play, and difficult to master. You had your friends over or went to their house to play multiplayer. You had a great time and made some great memories
Goldeneye, Halo 1 and many other games are looked at a special light because they weren’t just games they were an experience so with some people who didn't have something similar they may not be able to understand.

As for the list Halo 2 should have been of it instead of Halo 3. Many people bought an Xbox based of the hype alone with out even playing the first game. It had almost the same amount insane media coverage on launch day as 3 did. It was a shitty sequel were problems with the first game (weapon balance) weren’t fixed and more problems were created.

Ice2SeeYou wrote:

Gears of War, on the other hand, I found to be incredible. The need to take cover turned what would be an ordinary shooter into a strategy game with shooting involved.

^Look into the Brothers in Arms series

Posted: Sep 26 2009 06:32 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

There's a difference between hype and fan-hype, and whoever did this list doesn't seem to understand that. Shenmue made the list? Seriously? The game has a cultish fanbase, but dude, just because you have one friend who STILL never shuts the fuck about how awesome Shenmue is, that doesn't make it overhyped. Shenmue is barely even a blip on the radar of most mainstream gamers, so it's hard to call it overhyped.

Also, for a game to be overhyped, it needs to fail to live up to the hype. Super Mario 3 objectively fails in this category. There wasn't a gamer alive that wasn't excited for the release of Super Mario 3, nor one who was disappointed upon playing it. The game was amazing at the time, and is still damn fun now. Anyone who doesn't loveSuper Mario 3 is one of two things. Option 1, you're a troll. Option 2, you're a non-gamer, like my mom, and you think Doki Doki Mario 2 is the best Mario game ever made.

I'd expect Mario 3 to be brought up in this discussion. There were many (including me) who thought this game was overrated. Sure it was a fun game and I played it a million times. However there were a lot of games back then I played millions of times, many of which I thought were just as good or even better. But all you ever hear about is Mario 3 Mario 3 Mario 3. Kinda got old to hear about over and over again.

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hobojoe44 wrote:

The thing is Halo 1 was the Xbox’s equivalent to Goldeneye
Both games have good single player and multiplayer component, good replay ability, easy to pick up and play, and difficult to master. You had your friends over or went to their house to play multiplayer. You had a great time and made some great memories
Goldeneye, Halo 1 and many other games are looked at a special light because they weren’t just games they were an experience so with some people who didn't have something similar they may not be able to understand.

As for the list Halo 2 should have been of it instead of Halo 3. Many people bought an Xbox based of the hype alone with out even playing the first game. It had almost the same amount insane media coverage on launch day as 3 did. It was a shitty sequel were problems with the first game (weapon balance) weren’t fixed and more problems were created.

Goldeneye had more weapons than Halo and allowed dual-weilding weapons by default, making it one of the first FPS games that allow dual weilding (unless you count some 1995 Doom mod floating around the internet). Halo allows for 4 times as many players in a single competitive game as Goldeneye and allows players to play cooperatively through the single player mode. Good luck getting 3 more XBoxes and 16 controllers.

Posted: Sep 26 2009 06:38 pm

Milhouse wrote:

Your mom is cool; I play Mario 2 way more than I play Mario 3. They're both great games, but I think Doki Doki is slightly more fun and weird.

There was a time I actually liked Mario 2 more than 3. However that didn't last very long due to the fact that Mario 2 was just INSANELY easy. After taking a 10 year hiatus from it I broke out Mario 2 and beat it in about an hour (forgetting where most of the hidden powerups were by the way). I couldn't even do that with Mega Man 2, which I found to be pretty easy back then also.

Posted: Sep 26 2009 06:38 pm

Halo was a good multiplayer experience, provided one had not owned a useable PC and played Team Fortress Classic or Unreal Tournament on said PC. The Halo LAN party was a major pain in the ass, and it was an archaic throwback to 1995 PC gaming.

The one player game was awful.

Joined: Nov 02 2008 Posts: 725

Agreed. The levels are huge and tedious, and the only real suprise I got out of it was when the Flood first appeared. Othet than that, you do the same thing over and over: jump to dodge some alien with a plasma gun, kill said alien, repeat. Mostly, I prefer PC FPSes for their extendability, but as far as console FPSes, I'd pick the Unreal series for its single player, and Goldeneye for multiplayer. Halo is a fun game for a while, but it's not on the same level as Doom in my opinion.

Posted: Sep 26 2009 08:59 pm

slapolakinkaido wrote:

Milhouse wrote:

Your mom is cool; I play Mario 2 way more than I play Mario 3. They're both great games, but I think Doki Doki is slightly more fun and weird.

There was a time I actually liked Mario 2 more than 3. However that didn't last very long due to the fact that Mario 2 was just INSANELY easy. After taking a 10 year hiatus from it I broke out Mario 2 and beat it in about an hour (forgetting where most of the hidden powerups were by the way). I couldn't even do that with Mega Man 2, which I found to be pretty easy back then also.

A hard game doesn't necessarily mean a good game. I think part of the fun of Mario 2 is that you CAN pick it up and beat it easily...possibly taking different paths each time. Maybe you play Fry-Guy or Tri-Clyde, maybe you take the warp. I think Mario 3 is definitely great because it's got so many levels and they are very varied, but I was just saying that I think it was wrong to say that Mario 2 isn't worthy as a great Mario game.

Posted: Sep 26 2009 09:46 pm

Milhouse wrote:

A hard game doesn't necessarily mean a good game.

Agreed. I think if we had been given the real SMB2 instead of what we got, a lot of people in our generation wouldn't like Mario as much as they do. SMB2J would have made me cry when I was little. It would have broken my soul and spirit, and I'm not sure that even SMB3 would have been able to fix it.

Posted: Sep 26 2009 11:21 pm

I still think Gyromite for the original NES should be a strong contender for this list.....stupid ass R.O.B the robot and his vacant stare while spinning his tops... Very Happy

Posted: Sep 27 2009 12:00 am

Berserk007 wrote:

I still think Gyromite for the original NES should be a strong contender for this list.....stupid ass R.O.B the robot and his vacant stare while spinning his tops... Very Happy

Good point. That was a strong selling point when it came out and I fell for the hype. I probably played that game with R.O.B. about three times. From what I read though R.O.B. was a big reason Nintendo got the green light by sellers to give video game systems a second chance after the fallout in 1984. For that I am thankful.

I do have to say that playing Gyromite and using your feet to control the red and blue button R.O.B. controller was a blast though. I loved Gyromite when I played it that way. I never bought the other R.O.B. game though, and it is far to expensive to consider doing so now.

Posted: Sep 27 2009 04:17 am

Milhouse wrote:

slapolakinkaido wrote:

Milhouse wrote:

Your mom is cool; I play Mario 2 way more than I play Mario 3. They're both great games, but I think Doki Doki is slightly more fun and weird.

There was a time I actually liked Mario 2 more than 3. However that didn't last very long due to the fact that Mario 2 was just INSANELY easy. After taking a 10 year hiatus from it I broke out Mario 2 and beat it in about an hour (forgetting where most of the hidden powerups were by the way). I couldn't even do that with Mega Man 2, which I found to be pretty easy back then also.

A hard game doesn't necessarily mean a good game. I think part of the fun of Mario 2 is that you CAN pick it up and beat it easily...possibly taking different paths each time. Maybe you play Fry-Guy or Tri-Clyde, maybe you take the warp. I think Mario 3 is definitely great because it's got so many levels and they are very varied, but I was just saying that I think it was wrong to say that Mario 2 isn't worthy as a great Mario game.

No no, I agree. Some games are sooooo fucking hard that it's almost not worth it to bust your ass to beat them. However there are some games that are soooo fucking easy, that they get old after about 2 weeks of playing them. (Like Mario 2) And when did that game come out? 1988? That's 21 years of staleness, (or a word like that), so maybe it's just a question of personal taste, but if I broke out that game tonight, after an hour I'd be like 'Wow that was still just a quick hour waste of my time'.

Posted: Sep 28 2009 01:10 pm

slapolakinkaido wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

There's a difference between hype and fan-hype, and whoever did this list doesn't seem to understand that. Shenmue made the list? Seriously? The game has a cultish fanbase, but dude, just because you have one friend who STILL never shuts the fuck about how awesome Shenmue is, that doesn't make it overhyped. Shenmue is barely even a blip on the radar of most mainstream gamers, so it's hard to call it overhyped.

Also, for a game to be overhyped, it needs to fail to live up to the hype. Super Mario 3 objectively fails in this category. There wasn't a gamer alive that wasn't excited for the release of Super Mario 3, nor one who was disappointed upon playing it. The game was amazing at the time, and is still damn fun now. Anyone who doesn't loveSuper Mario 3 is one of two things. Option 1, you're a troll. Option 2, you're a non-gamer, like my mom, and you think Doki Doki Mario 2 is the best Mario game ever made.

I'd expect Mario 3 to be brought up in this discussion. There were many (including me) who thought this game was overrated. Sure it was a fun game and I played it a million times. However there were a lot of games back then I played millions of times, many of which I thought were just as good or even better. But all you ever hear about is Mario 3 Mario 3 Mario 3. Kinda got old to hear about over and over again.

I don't think you can label Mario 3 as "overrated," even if it wasn't your thing. The game is insanely popular for a reason.

That said, it's perfectly acceptable to not be such a huge fan of it. That's my viewpoint......Mario 3 was a good game in my book, but not in my personal top 10. I don't generally like platformers that much.

Posted: Sep 28 2009 04:18 pm

Enter The Matrix was a horrible/buggy game. I remember one part where the audio was all messed up on the PS2 version. I thought it was part of the game like something like the agents and the Matrix itself messing with you. Nope...it was just buggy because I played the same level again and the audio was fine the next time.

Posted: Sep 28 2009 05:22 pm

That is the single greatest excuse for Enter the Matrix's bugginess I've ever heard! "It wasn't us being lazy or poor programmers, its the Agents screwing with the Matrix! Its random so you'll never see it coming!"

Posted: Sep 28 2009 05:42 pm

I love how they tried to get the players to be more indepth with "Hacking". That's the only time I'll use a FAQ for a mini-game/extra. then they threw in Multiplayer which was more abusive then a cheap flash fightergame.

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IceWarm wrote:

Enter The Matrix was a horrible/buggy game. I remember one part where the audio was all messed up on the PS2 version. I thought it was part of the game like something like the agents and the Matrix itself messing with you. Nope...it was just buggy because I played the same level again and the audio was fine the next time.

It was so buggy it used to red-ring the original Xbox as well. That was back in the day where Xboxes were well-made and people didn't know what the hell was happening.

Also, I have a feeling that over the next month or two, we're all going to become fucking sick of MW2 before it even hits the shelves.

Posted: Sep 28 2009 05:49 pm

I'm already sick of it. Mostly because one of the people I used to play with would bitch about hackers for games on end. I stopped playing it after that and eventually lost interest in the franchise in general. I may get back into CoD if it goes down to $40 within 6 months of it coming out, which is semi likely.

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TARDISman wrote:

I'm already sick of it. Mostly because one of the people I used to play with would bitch about hackers for games on end. I stopped playing it after that and eventually lost interest in the franchise in general. I may get back into CoD if it goes down to $40 within 6 months of it coming out, which is semi likely.

Yeah, that's one of the things that kills me about the new gaming crowd whose first games were Halo. They've been so accustomed to thinking that losing any kind of game is the worst, most impossible thing in the world, so naturally, if you die, well then the other people must be cheating. That, and I'm sick of seeing people brag about their "k/d ratio."