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Classic Video Games: The Next Pogs?


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Ash Burton
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 09:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

Remember Pogs? Oh yes, that wonderful craze that came about in the early 90's causing you to flush away your hard earned money to play a game that made no sense at all. Maybe it did, I never played. I was busy with another fad, Video Games. While some of my friends were busy showing off their pristine collection of "slammers", I was slamming Final Fantasy 2 into my SNES. Don't remember Pogs? Oh, then you must be the 20 year-old fucktard charging me 35 bucks for Final Fantasy 2 on Ebay!

I got into classic gaming a little while back picking up old games at thrift stores and yard sales here and there. I love playing old games now and often my Xbox and Wii just seem to collect dust while the toaster keeps getting fired up instead. Now that I have gotten to my Super Nintendo Stage I have been wanting to collect a few of the games from my childhood that were "lost" when I left for the Marines. Log onto Ebay, search Earthbound and BAM! 80 bucks. Ok, since when the hell did everyone learn about Earthbound? In 1994 my friends looked at me like a retard when I spent all day playing that game and not Donkey Kong Country. Ok, then, how bout Final Fantasy 3? 40 bucks you say? Fuck you I say it better come in some freaking shrink wrap with a Toys R Us sticker on it.

How have games from my childhood remained the same price or even gone up? The reason is Nintendo has become a collecting game instead of an entertainment game. Video game collecting has become a hobby like collecting Pokemon Cards or Comic Books. Half of these "collectors" were in diapers when I was laying the smack down on Giygas, what the fuck are they interested in these games for? Do they think this is an investment? I could deal with people wanting these games because they want to play them and relive some nostalgia or maybe even a new gamer trying to see what he or she has missed out on. The problem I have is the clowns who collect these games and just place them in plastic on the shelf and drive these prices through the roof. Schleprocks like this guy who is so evil and strange he sounds like a villain straight out of DIE HARD:



Thanks to life-long virgins like this Buffalo Bill knockoff, this is what it will cost me to rebuild not even half of my Super Nintendo Collection:

Super Metorid -$15; Earthbound -$80; FF2 + FF3 - $60; Super Mario World -$10; Chrono Trigger -$70; Secret Of Mana - $45; TMNT Turtles in Time -$25; Link To The Past - $12; Super Mario Kart -$20...SNES System-$60

Total Cost = $397.00 Fuck Me.

Look, I love these games and they just aren't the same on an emulator. I'm going to pay these prices whether I want to or not. I just want to put this message out to all the strange Video Game "collectors" out there. (If you know one please tell them) These games are not meant to be stored on shelves like your comic books or old hair and toe-nail clippings. Play them! For fucks sake break the seal for the first time in your life! Furthermore, these games will be absolutely worthless in 10 years when our nostalgia craze has worn off and all we do is sit around worrying about kids and mortgages. They will sit like a pile of burnt one hundred dollar bills on your shelf next to your fucking worthless Pogs and Pokemon Cards.

That is all.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 10:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

Hah, there is some validity to this.


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Rydog
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 11:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

Though collectors can make prices higher, I think the prices are high also because these games are huge classics or have a strong cult following. Add in the durability of the cartridge format and they can retain their value. As you stated and I also believe, playing on an actual console at a TV is much more fulfilling then playing on an emulator at the computer.

Collecting is a hobby just like playing video games. Some people just like to collect video games, I can't fault someone for that.
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 11:36 am Reply with quote Back to top

Stacking a bunch of old games ontop of each other and then slamming one down on the top to knock them all down sounds like it would have slightly undesirable results.


Just sayin'


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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 12:09 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rydog wrote:
Though collectors can make prices higher, I think the prices are high also because these games are huge classics or have a strong cult following. Add in the durability of the cartridge format and they can retain their value. As you stated and I also believe, playing on an actual console at a TV is much more fulfilling then playing on an emulator at the computer.

Collecting is a hobby just like playing video games. Some people just like to collect video games, I can't fault someone for that.

But what's the use of collecting without actually playing them? Without the play experience, they're just pieces of plastic with a circuit board inside.

On a side note, I'm so glad that the pawn and the flea markets that I frequent don't check prices on eBay. I can get good shit for extremely cheap.


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Rydog
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 12:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Char Aznable wrote:
Rydog wrote:
Though collectors can make prices higher, I think the prices are high also because these games are huge classics or have a strong cult following. Add in the durability of the cartridge format and they can retain their value. As you stated and I also believe, playing on an actual console at a TV is much more fulfilling then playing on an emulator at the computer.

Collecting is a hobby just like playing video games. Some people just like to collect video games, I can't fault someone for that.

But what's the use of collecting without actually playing them? Without the play experience, they're just pieces of plastic with a circuit board inside.

On a side note, I'm so glad that the pawn and the flea markets that I frequent don't check prices on eBay. I can get good shit for extremely cheap.


If I were collecting opened video games, I would def. play the shit out of them all....I personally don't collect anything so I don't know what motivates people to just collect something and put it on a shelf or in an album. Maybe the pride of building the collection and being able to show of your stamps, coins, toys, old video games to friends and family.

Yeah, I always drive by yard sales and ask if they have video game stuff.....you can find a gold mine if a Mom is cleaning out an attic and doesn't know what she is selling to the dismay of her kids
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Char Aznable
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 12:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I can't wait until the next time my friend goes garagesaling, so I can tag along. He found Gears of War 2 for 10 bucks, and could've picked up a copy of GoldenEye for $3 (I'm still pissed that he didn't, as I was looking for a copy at the time).


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 12:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You think those SNES prices are bad, try buying Suikoden 2 or Xenogears for PSX. $100 used, up to $400 new.
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 12:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The most expensive game that I'm currently considering purchasing is a copy of Metal Warriors for SNES. The game is still $60-$70 game only.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 01:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
Stacking a bunch of old games ontop of each other and then slamming one down on the top to knock them all down sounds like it would have slightly undesirable results.


Just sayin'

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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 02:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've seen both FF3 (US) and Super Mario RPG for $125 in video game stores.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 02:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

There are collectors and then there are hoarders that ruin the public image of collectors.

Any genre has them.

The previous group actually value their collection, not only because of its possible monetary value, but for usually more personal reasons; the latter group is only concerned about making a quick buck.

For instance, during the time I was doing seasonal work at a Toys R Us, there was this guy looking for limited edition of Star Wars Lego sets. By the bulk.

Said guys said, and I paraphrase:

"I really don't care about them; I'm just buying them so I can sell them at Ebay for triple the price."
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 04:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Valdronius wrote:
I've seen both FF3 (US) and Super Mario RPG for $125 in video game stores.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 04:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I remember pogs. My school banned them after one kid pulled a knife on another for beating him in a game.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 06:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

IceWarm wrote:
I remember pogs. My school banned them after one kid pulled a knife on another for beating him in a game.

When I started at a new school in 3rd grade the teacher was yelling at everyone about Pogs and I had no idea what he was talking about. To be honest, I'm still not exactly sure what Pogs are.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 10:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

honestly, if you're just trying to "relive the magic" or whatever, you could just get them on an emulator.

I like to consider myself a collector, personally, and would one day love to have a room that looks like this. I don't think it's the same as pogs, and I don't really see anythign wrong with Buffalo Bill in the above vid.

Half of the enjoyment that I get out of collecting is the hunt, honestly. To track down a game that I remember from my childhood and see how it's aged or how it stacks up to current games. To be able to have a story, like "I drove all the way to Clifton NJ, the store where AVGN beat the shit out of Captain S and the nostalgia critic, just to get my hands on a game." Sometimes you run across weird little curiosities, and sometimes you actually end up learning stuff you didn't know on your journey.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 10:38 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I get by emulation-only these days; I had to sell my NES/SNES and game collection quite a few years ago. Thank god for emulators, though. I'd be so sad if I couldn't play the actual games any more. I agree the experience loses a little something when not played on a console and TV, but as long as you have a controller to plug into your rig, its not so bad. (/ rationalizing.)

I always thought the more expensive games were jacked up in price because there weren't many carts made of them. But, I guess anything is worth what someone will pay for it. *shrug*


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it fluctuates. I'm sure now that alot of classic games are available as DLC, some even with enhancements, plus all of those classic collections of games that seem to be released, the original carts will come down in price a little.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 11:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ash Burton wrote:
a new gamer trying to see what he or she has missed out on.
This is me. I bought an FC Twin a while back an
d only get games at flea markets and yard sales or from older cousins. And having them sit on a shelf is stupid. I play the shit out of those games.


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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 11:47 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Would you argue that saving all your Hot Wheels from when you were a kid and then placing them on a shelf were they will never be touched again is wrong? Especially, if a kid never got to play with that 1969 Camero SS sitting up there?
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PostPosted: Aug 26 2009 11:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Wow that was my first time actually watching the vid. It is insane to see all those NES games in the box. Shocked


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Andrew Man wrote:
Wow that was my first time actually watching the vid. It is insane to see all those NES games in the box. Shocked


Me too, I will admit, there is no reason, not even for a collector to need multiple copies of the same games. He had like 6 sealed copies of Top Gun alone. If I was a millionare and decided to do a complete collection, that would be 1 sealed copy, and 1 opened copy of everything. (One to preserve, one to play) There is no reason to own 16 copies of Gyromite.
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he probably buys lots on ebay and stuff, so you always end up with duplicates that way. he probably does what most collectors do and turns right around and puts the duplicates back up for sale so he has more money to fuel his hobby. he even said in the video that he sells teh stuff.


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Ash Burton
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PostPosted: Aug 27 2009 09:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
honestly, if you're just trying to "relive the magic" or whatever, you could just get them on an emulator.

I like to consider myself a collector, personally, and would one day love to have a room that looks like this. I don't think it's the same as pogs, and I don't really see anythign wrong with Buffalo Bill in the above vid.

Half of the enjoyment that I get out of collecting is the hunt, honestly. To track down a game that I remember from my childhood and see how it's aged or how it stacks up to current games. To be able to have a story, like "I drove all the way to Clifton NJ, the store where AVGN beat the shit out of Captain S and the nostalgia critic, just to get my hands on a game." Sometimes you run across weird little curiosities, and sometimes you actually end up learning stuff you didn't know on your journey.


Look, its just a rant. My real problem is with people who don't even play these games. They just want to collect them like they are baseball cards. They are not collector items! If you check Ebay for a lot of Atari games you will find they are not expensive. and most have no bids at all. This is because that generation has moved on, much like ours will. It's fine to collect things, but it is my opinion that video games are meant for playing and not for shelving. Also, if you don't think anything is wrong with ol Bill in the video then you must be from the Netherlands.


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Ash is probably just home humping his SNES collection.

 
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PostPosted: Aug 27 2009 12:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ash Burton wrote:
If you check Ebay for a lot of Atari games you will find they are not expensive. and most have no bids at all.


Yeah for common games but for rare ones your looking for to pay $100+ Swordquest: Waterworld being the prime example.

Many of these rare 2600 games prices have plummeted over the years when people find pallets of the games in factories abandoned there since the crash of 83.
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