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Slayer1
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Okay, so what the hell is wrong with these new horror movies? It's like they get a budget to make a movie and they just spend it on blow and release a craptastic horror movie. Look at this new one Orphan, it could have potential, but I garuntee, no one will remember it until you find it in the bargin bin at wal-mart three years from now. I mean, name five movies released in 2008 that people will say "oh wow that was a good one"
Now I'm not saying all the recent ones are crap but it seems that every month we see a horror movie that's released and then nothing after the release date. Half a year later it's released and has maybe a weeks worth of ad's before no one gives a damn about it any more.
Another thing that pisses me off is those damn Saw Movies. Okay I get it, the first one was good it was a nice psychological horror flick that had little amount of actual blood until the very end. The last four was a gore fest which only clogged the drains of a plausible movie.
Another point is that they are released every Holloween and aren't even as scary as the orignal was. We saw Friday the 13th do this as well, but they at least timed it right so that we'd have the previous one in our mind, but don't factor them in until the last minute, giving us anticipation. With the Saw series, it's like you buy the dvd in june and watch it a couple times only to see a new one in the fall.
I think horror films I think on the edge of my seat, pissing in my pants terror. Not so much anymore with the teenage subplot. I know you are trying to appeal to the women in the audience but that's like putting a plot to a porno. Okay, so that sounds sexist but let's face it, why would we bring a girl to a horror movie? So that they would get scared and hold on to you (hopefully) The most recent ones, no not the case. One missed call? It was like a fucking soap opera. That movie with Shia LeBuff which was a hitchcock remake, made me want to drive a rail spike through my eye. Case in point, it's about scaring you, not "I wonder if those two are going to go on a date before the killer gets them"
Last thing before I'm done with this rant. Stephen King Movies... Don't change the ending... 1408 was fine, The Stand fine, Desperation okay, The Langoliers fine... but the FUCKING MIST! Jesus, it had good scares and then the ending just fucking ruins your night. Don't fucking do that shit unless you killed every other character in the movie throughout the movie. Oh... and get Johnny Depp to have a role in any of your films. Secret Window... HOLY SHIT!
There... I'm not sure if that's what I envisioned my horror film rant would be but it's open for suggestions
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Knyte
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I haven't seen it, but I heard about the ending. Absolutely terrible. Like B-Movie horror film terrible.
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SoldierHawk
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Aw, I actually kinda liked what they did with The Mist. I mean it was a kick in the gut yes, but what else were they gonna do? End it like the book and have them just drive off in the mist? No, that would be a cop out according to movie audiences. Make a happy ending? Absolute sin to all King fans. Have them go down fighting monsters? ...Best of the lot so far, but predictable. They all had to die, and that was at least a very interesting, unexpected and emotional way to do it. *shrug*
As for The Orphan...at least they changed the original tagline for that piece of shit. (The original tag was, and I shit you not, "it must be hard to love an adopted child as much as your own." Can you think of ANYTHING stupider and more offensive than that when all you're trying to market is an inane horror movie? I mean if you REALLY tried?)
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The horror genre can be so hilariously bad sometimes. And I'm not entirely sure if that's a good thing or not. Like, I was in the mood for some horror last week, so I went down to Blockbuster, and the section was piled with all sorts of craptastic sounding junk that I couldn't begin to imagine flying in any other genre (well, relatively speaking...it's fairly obvious why Sadistic Scorpion-Tailed Scalpels From Switzerland Get Their Bloody Revenge II- that's not real- might never work as a rom-com). And while I'm sure some of it might be surprisingly entertaining, I couldn't help but wonder who the fuck would actually listen to these plots and, with a straight face, greenlight them.
Aspiring Fuckbag Director: "Nah, man, it's a metaphor for how, you know, we're all so hooked on our technology and shit to give us our way of life that the human touch is gone, you know? Like, how we're all missing the real world 'cause the internet's telling us how to live, and all that. I can feel it, man, and so will the audience. I guarantee it."
Exec: "Right, so run the basic premise by me again..."
Aspiring Fuckbag Director: "Well, basically there's this teenage girl, you know? Very Clive Barker. And she's all having her problems with her boyfriend and stuff, right? So like, in school by the lockers they just have this big fight, you follow?"
Exec: "I do..."
Aspiring Fuckbag Director: "Good. So, like, her best friend, who's kinda like her, but, you know, a little sluttier, and such, she's all like 'nah, babe, don't worry 'bout that asshole.' But she does worry about him. So much so that in Chemistry class, she's too busy crying her eyes out to notice that she mixed the wrong two chemicals for her lab project. So then, when she looks down, because she got a text at the perfect moment from her guy, this black chemical shit just sneaks in to life, and while no one's looking, makes its way into her iPod headphones. So, yeah, no one else sees this either, 'cause the teacher's yelling at the same time. Then, later on, she's at home and her best friend is over, dressed all skanky for no real reason- maybe a metaphor for our material society. And she's takin' our mail girl to a party to get her mind off all this shit. So the main girl's about to go in the shower. So we watch her strip and shit, while cutting to her best friend snooping around the room, till she finds herself that iPod. She plays one song, and nothing happens. Meanwhile, we cut to our main girl who's now in the shower. While her friend puts the shit on shuffle, we keep cutting gratuitously to these shower scenes. Then, all of a sudden, friend gets to Rick Astley's Never Gonna Give You Up. Suddenly that black chemical shit starts coming out of the headphones, and before the girl can slam them down in disgust, they're choking her. So, girl in the shower can't hear this obviously, as she's in her own world. So she doesn't notice that iPod, still playing Astley making its way into the bathroom. But then, all of a sudden, the song ends, and the iPod just becomes inanimate again on the bathroom floor. Then, yeah, she steps out, finds it, thinks that's odd, goes back into her room...and her friend is strangled to death, lying on the bed, back-up, arms spread out, and blood on the wall that reads 'A full commitment's what I'm thinkin' of.' Cue screaming. And that's basically how I'm gonna get this ball rolling."
Exec: "Mhm..."
Aspiring Fuckbag Director: "Yeah, and then for the DVD cover, we'll have, like, a Jack O'Lantern with glowing emerald eyes holding his razor blade cock over a screaming nun's throat in a bloody operating room. 'Cause that's the big climactic scene I'm imagining, you know?"
...Sorry, I got carried away...
Exec: "Well, that was, um, incredibly long. But I like it! A lot. It's current, and that song seems to be hip with the kids. We can get some good YouTube marketing on this. We'll fund it."
I mean, is that the logic? Who sees gold in shit like this?
For real, though, out of morbid curiosity, I'm really tempted to just pick out a bunch of this shit from the shelf one day and actually watch it. But then again, that'd cost money. I don't know...
...What point was I trying to make again? I really lose track of myself when I get all long-winded, and shit.
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If you want to see good horror movies, more often than not, you need to look off the Hollywood path. Big budget Hollywood studios already have a less than stellar record of putting out good movies, let alone restricting it to the horror genre. Look deeper if you want to find good horror, like the little known Midnight Meat Train, or even some low budget Japanese/Korean films that come out all the time that everyone ignores. Basically, don't look at billboards and TV ads when looking for a good movie.
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Also, you're going to have to lower your standards to find "good horror". It's easy to be on the edge of your seat, and freaked out as a teenager, but after 25, you're not going to get a movie to scare you anymore, at least not pissing pants terror. You just have too much experience at that point in your life.
As an aside, I love the Saw movies, and while the sequels are admittedly weaker, I still found them entertaining and fun to watch. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really understand the reputation it's gotten as being a gore-fest as anything graphically gorey is always within context, so it works for the movie. Maybe most people (including you) haven't even bothered to watch the sequels before writing the series off, I don't know.
If you want to condemn a series of movies for being pointless gore-fests, look no further than the Hostel films. Saw is a little more cerebral and fun to me than those movies.
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I just think the well is dry. Everything's been done ad nauseum. That's why I can't stand the whole genre anymore.
I'm probably the only person here who loved the Hostel movies. But I hated Saw after the 2nd one.
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Slayer1
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Maybe you are right Panda. I'm twenty now and when I was ten I loved the Halloween movies, except number three which isn't really a Halloween movie, just a descent into failure. But now, it might be my age, or my expectations that have ruined this genre, but I can't ignore the fact that the genre is pratically watered down to the level of "hey, is that a guy with a knife? let's go see" *THWACK*
It could be because of the recent films going way out of thier way to try to horrify us, that situations seem so unbelievable it's humourus. Granted the early films did that but not to the point as giving us a huge backstory as to why there is a zombie infestation or why the guy is killing people because the villagers killed his girlfriend. No, the older generation gave us something that we could develop on our own and try to explain or just let the fun of unknowning exsist. Maybe we as a society of movie goers just got "slightly" more retarded and want an explaination behind Jason or Freddy, but the directors induldge our craving for crap that we accept.
As for Japanese thrillers, I've seen a couple and they were pretty good I'll admit. I do like them as a horror genre, but sometimes they just overdo it. Though Tetsuo was pretty fucked up, and I did get a chance to watch some of sweet home... Rusty Razor and surgical tubing for me Please...
And for sis... I agree that it was overall good, I just thought they could have done some better to the ending. The book did kick us readers in the pants, but the movie just made me want to go into a hole and die. If they had fired upon the army thinking it was a monster, that would have at least been a different stroke to see them all obliterated by a hail of gunfire, rather then having that guy kill them all. Oh and notice the Dark Tower Reference at the begininning?
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In looking back over the past few years there are only a few horror movies that stand out as decent to good:
The Descent - UK Director, was decent but not super good, but far better than any recent horror movie stateside.
Audition - I usually somewhat dislike Japanese horror, it's usually "more of the same" much like it is over here in the states with what you touched on in your OP., but this movie was damn good, the great character development with the main lead made you really like the guy and hope the best for him.; It adds a whole new dimension to the ending.
Let the Right One In - Strange, Swedish vampire movie that's creepy on many levels. My favorite vampire Movie.
I would almost count Mulholland Drive as a horror movie, but I'm biased, and it's really not very recent. Still, one of the creepiest movies ever.
The only horror movie I have even bothered to watch in theaters recently was Drag me to Hell. It was terrible IMO.
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The Descent was great, but sadly that film is four years old (released in 2006 in the US, but already released back in 2005 in the UK).
The last decent horror flick I saw was Midnight Meat Train. And that film wasn't even great, or close to being great. It was merely decent, yet it was much better than most other horror flicks such as the Saw films and the countless remakes of older horror classics. Is that sad or what?
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YES
I just saw "texas chainsaw masacar the begining and it was a shit fest"
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Hacker wrote: |
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I just saw "texas chainsaw masacar the begining and it was a shit fest" |
As is this post.
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I like bad horror movies. Like, low budget, direct-to-video, who-in-the-hell-thought-this-idea-would-work horror movies. I spend a lot of time pitching bad horror movies to my friends. For example:
"You thought it was just a kids' game... You thought it was just pretend... But now the horror is real! THE FLOOR IS LAVA! RATED R."
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Kojjiro!
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horror directors should stop thinking children are the least bit scary. they aren't.
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Kojjiro! wrote: |
horror directors should stop thinking children are the least bit scary. they aren't. |
It's not children that are scary its the knowledge that you are going to have one that is
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Hacker wrote: |
Kojjiro! wrote: |
horror directors should stop thinking children are the least bit scary. they aren't. |
It's not children that are scary its the knowledge that you are going to have one that is |
Hacker, i think you just came up with a new concept for a great Horror movie.
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Horror movies are scarier when the budget is low.
Check out any thing buy Ghosthouse.
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ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
Hacker wrote: |
Kojjiro! wrote: |
horror directors should stop thinking children are the least bit scary. they aren't. |
It's not children that are scary its the knowledge that you are going to have one that is |
Hacker, i think you just came up with a new concept for a great Horror movie.  |
Its been done and it was called Alien. Or Rosemary's Baby. Or depending on the intepretation Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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If you like horrible, HORRIBLE, (but extremely funny) horror movies look into Asylum of Terror. I laughed for hours.
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
I like bad horror movies. Like, low budget, direct-to-video, who-in-the-hell-thought-this-idea-would-work horror movies. |
Have you seen this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrooms_(film)
I saw it at Wal Mart the other day and almost died laughing.
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Syd Lexia wrote: |
"You thought it was just a kids' game... You thought it was just pretend... But now the horror is real! THE FLOOR IS LAVA! RATED R." |
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Probable Muppet wrote: |
The Descent - UK Director, was decent but not super good, but far better than any recent horror movie stateside.
Audition - I usually somewhat dislike Japanese horror, it's usually "more of the same" much like it is over here in the states with what you touched on in your OP., but this movie was damn good, the great character development with the main lead made you really like the guy and hope the best for him.; It adds a whole new dimension to the ending.
Let the Right One In - Strange, Swedish vampire movie that's creepy on many levels. My favorite vampire Movie. |
I recently saw The Descent and thought it was very well done. Turns out it's supposed to be getting a sequel too. I keep hearing about Audition every so often, so I'm curious. Let the Right One In seems really good as well.
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Izzy
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So I read the wikipedia synopsis for "Orphan" and guessed the ending by the second paragraph. All I could think was "Don't Look Now"
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Izzy
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RobotGumshoe wrote: |
ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
Hacker wrote: |
Kojjiro! wrote: |
horror directors should stop thinking children are the least bit scary. they aren't. |
It's not children that are scary its the knowledge that you are going to have one that is |
Hacker, i think you just came up with a new concept for a great Horror movie.  |
Its been done and it was called Alien. Or Rosemary's Baby. Or depending on the intepretation Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. |
Or The Brood or It's Alive (just saw they made a remake of it last year, goodness  )
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Bouya
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I went and saw Orphan today, it was fun. But I just go to see a silly movie and have fun with a friend, not to expect some cinematic trailblazing or whatever.
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