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A brief anecdote about burning the flag and treason


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sidewaydriver
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PostPosted: Jul 16 2009 09:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
sidewaydriver wrote:
The cool thing about being deployed is you get to interact with other countries armed forces. I've worked with the Canadian Air Force in Iraq and I see them all the time on base here in Washington.

Absolutely one of the things I'm looking forward to the most.

It's a lot of fun, we had a dodge call league in Kuwait with different countries and branches. There were the British, Australians, Koreans, Japanese, Canadians, Germans, French, Ugandans, all kinds of people. It's just a great way to bridge culture gaps too, we would trade patches with them for keepsakes and it's neat to see what kind of uniforms they wear and stuff.


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PostPosted: Jul 16 2009 09:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
People ask me what America is. When a man hangs a flag over the window in a basement apartment because he's too cheap to buy curtains, that's America.

Watchmen?
SoldierHawk wrote:
A soldier is a solider--we may fight for different ideals, and under different flags, but the sacrifice is the same no matter where you are.

Until their government asks them to attack you.

(Where the hell is the "This may or may not be a joke" sig?)


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PostPosted: Jul 16 2009 10:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
Besides, I love Canada, and have worked with plenty of Canadian soldiers, all of whom earned my deepest respect for their dedication and willingness to stand up for their country, and for human rights around the world. Anyone who doesn't support a Canadian (or Dutch, or Mexican, or whoever) soldier can't claim to support American troops, in my mind. A soldier is a solider--we may fight for different ideals, and under different flags, but the sacrifice is the same no matter where you are.

very well said SH


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Ross Rifle
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 12:33 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, I just wanna take a lame, sapy moment to say I love all of you guys. We're from all over the world, and we're all buddies. And a special thanks to Hawk and Sideway and a few other members that are fighting for their country among my countrymen.


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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 12:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

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Usa does have a point. The Flag Code isn't law as far as I know;

It's law. It's just not punishable or really enforceable.

You'd be surprised how many laws out there are simply not able to be enforced by any means whatsoever for some reason or another.
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 01:28 am Reply with quote Back to top

UsaSatsui wrote:
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Usa does have a point. The Flag Code isn't law as far as I know;

It's law. It's just not punishable or really enforceable.

You'd be surprised how many laws out there are simply not able to be enforced by any means whatsoever for some reason or another.

If its law, how come its not enforceable? I'm not arguing, I'm sure you're right, I'm just confused. If its law, its law. I remember a month or two ago, there was a guy who flew the Mexican flag over his business above the American flag, which is a no-no in America (just like its not appropriate to fly the US flag over the Mexican in Mexico.) The police had complaints, but I thought they decided they couldn't do anything which, if it was truly against the law, wouldn't make sense. Would it?


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 03:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
UsaSatsui wrote:
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Usa does have a point. The Flag Code isn't law as far as I know;

It's law. It's just not punishable or really enforceable.

You'd be surprised how many laws out there are simply not able to be enforced by any means whatsoever for some reason or another.

If its law, how come its not enforceable? I'm not arguing, I'm sure you're right, I'm just confused. If its law, its law. I remember a month or two ago, there was a guy who flew the Mexican flag over his business above the American flag, which is a no-no in America (just like its not appropriate to fly the US flag over the Mexican in Mexico.) The police had complaints, but I thought they decided they couldn't do anything which, if it was truly against the law, wouldn't make sense. Would it?

Because there's nothing outlined in the code as punishment for those who break the law. So you can shout at the guy, "Hey! You! You're breaking the law!" But you can't force compliance, at least not by arresting the guy.

You can go to court and get a court order requiring them to follow the code, and if they refuse to comply with it, they could be charged with contempt of court, which can be jail time. But the court may refuse to hear the case altogether since there's no "victim" in this case...you generally need someone wronged to bring a suit (another way some laws are unenforceable...nobody is able to bring suit to enforce it. This is why suits involving a certain person's birth certificate were dismissed out of hand)

There could also be state laws that may apply.

Many laws are followed because, in general, Americans have a very strong traditions of respecting the laws of the land, particularly the Constitution. Think about it...if the President wanted to throw out the results of an election and maintain power through military might, who could really stop him? Rulers of other nations have figured that one out...but here, it's unthinkable, because of our respect for the law.
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 10:00 am Reply with quote Back to top

Ross Rifle wrote:
Thanks for being so Canadian-friendly in the midst of ranting about how pissed off you get when you see a tattered American flag. It's too often that Canadians are looked upon as lesser people because we aren't American. I actually ran into an old high school buddy of mine today who spent time in Afghanistan. 20 years old and he chose to go to war for his country. Made me think of you and Sideway and how different we really aren't.

I don't think many Americans have any real animosity towards Canadians, or think less of them. It's usually just something that's meant to be funny. I think the humor is based on the fact that we are exactly alike in most ways, so we jokingly make a big deal out of our minor differences.

That said, I can see how perpetually being on the receiving end of the joke could get tiresome.


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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 10:17 am Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
People ask me what America is. When a man hangs a flag over the window in a basement apartment because he's too cheap to buy curtains, that's America.

Watchmen?

No, it was a reference to a Kids In The Hall sketch:

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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 10:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Kids in the Hall had greatest TV theme song of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebHfMRw--sE&feature=related

This should probably be in the "Best TV show themes" thread, but fuck it, how often does Kids in the Hall come up around here. What a show that was...


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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 03:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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I don't think many Americans have any real animosity towards Canadians, or think less of them. It's usually just something that's meant to be funny. I think the humor is based on the fact that we are exactly alike in most ways, so we jokingly make a big deal out of our minor differences.

The English have the Welsh.

The Australians have the New Zelanders.

The Americans have the Canadians.

Think of it as picking on a little brother. It's irritating, but not mean spirited.
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 08:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

America is like the jocky older brother and Canada is like our nerdy younger brother. We pick on you and make fun of you when our friends are around but deep down inside we love you guys.


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Ross Rifle
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 10:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, well that actually makes a lot of sense. Thanks guys!!


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PostPosted: Jul 17 2009 10:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm afraid of Americans.


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PostPosted: Jul 18 2009 02:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

anorexorcist wrote:
I'm afraid of Americans.

I'm afraid of the world. I'm afraid I can't help it.


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