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Posted: Jun 05 2009 11:14 am

I figured I would go ahead and make an "official" topic for this upcoming megaton title.

Information is rather sparse as of now, however implications from Miyamoto's private conference held during E3 suggest that this might be the most hardcore and adult oriented Zelda yet.

IGN wrote:

7:03 p.m.: Shows new illustration for the next Zelda for Wii. Nothing to show yet, but it shows an adult link. More grown up than ever before.

7:04 p.m.: "We'd like to make it compatible with Wii MotionPlus. It's quite possible it will be playable only with Wii MotionPlus."

7:05 p.m.: "Think of Zelda while you're trying some of the archery and sword play in Wii Sports Resort," Miyamoto say.

(excerpts from live blog during Miyamoto's conference)

Also, the first bit of concept art has been released, take note that Link is not holding a sword. Whatever might this imply? Miyamoto made a point to mention it...

I am already calling it gets delayed to 2011...

Can't wait though!

Posted: Jun 05 2009 12:36 pm

isn't link left handed?

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not sense the wii move

Posted: Jun 05 2009 12:58 pm

monachetti wrote:

isn't link left handed?

Link has traditionally always been left-handed.

However, since appearing on the Wii (as a result of motion control) they put the sword in his right hand, accommodating for the fact that a majority of the population is indeed right handed.

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I heard a while back that this game was going to be first person. I really really hope it's not.

Posted: Jun 05 2009 03:59 pm

Joy.

Posted: Jun 05 2009 05:19 pm

As of this very moment I am officially anxious about it!

Posted: Jun 05 2009 05:53 pm

blkplaguelmc wrote:

I heard a while back that this game was going to be first person. I really really hope it's not.

If they perfect motion plus, swordplay would be sooo nasty. Besides the console Zeldas have followed such a similar trend that I could go for a change of scene.

Posted: Jun 05 2009 09:51 pm

Andrew Man wrote:

monachetti wrote:

isn't link left handed?

Link has traditionally always been left-handed.

However, since appearing on the Wii (as a result of motion control) they put the sword in his right hand, accommodating for the fact that a majority of the population is indeed right handed.

As soon I read this, i had the urge to play Twilight Princess left handed... Razz

Posted: Jun 05 2009 11:51 pm

Looking over the poster, I'm calling they somehow turn the Master Sword into a humanoid entity.

Posted: Jun 06 2009 12:09 am

lordsathien wrote:

Looking over the poster, I'm calling they somehow turn the Master Sword into a humanoid entity.

Exactly what I was thinking, that sounds fairly interesting, opens up..........interesting possibilities.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

I had the exact same thought when I noticed the fairy (for that is indeed what it is) and the swordless-Link.

.. But another thought comes to mind. The fairy looks like a bigger version of the Fairy Queen (I believe that's her name) from The Wind Waker... The small one who gives you the fire and ice arrows?

Posted: Jun 12 2009 08:34 pm

I.
DON'T.
LIKE.
CHANGE.

Posted: Jun 15 2009 01:13 pm

Kind of an update. Miyamoto essentially confirmed that the title will be WM+ exclusive.

Miyamoto wrote:

'The goal at this point is that we would make Wii MotionPlus required in order to play Zelda', Miyamoto told Wired. 'The bigger hurdle for us is not really whether people have a Wii MotionPlus or don't have it, it's whether or not the experience is one where people will think they want to have a Wii Motion Plus in order to experience it.'

http://wii.ign.com/articles/994/994637p1.html

People will have them, rest assured.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

Andrew Man wrote:

Miyamoto wrote:

'The goal at this point is that we would make Wii MotionPlus required in order to play Zelda', Miyamoto told Wired. 'The bigger hurdle for us is not really whether people have a Wii MotionPlus or don't have it, it's whether or not the experience is one where people will think they want to have a Wii Motion Plus in order to experience it.'

http://wii.ign.com/articles/994/994637p1.html

People will have them, rest assured.

For a new Zelda game? Of course. That's a general rule.

Posted: Jun 15 2009 05:28 pm

Yea, but it is still news related to the game that warranted being posted.

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All that matters is that I have a Wii and a Wii Motion Plus. Nintendo please release the game. You can just mail me my copy directly.

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I would wish they'd hurry up, too. Remember what happened when they started editing Ocarina of Time? They cut out a lot of stuff (THE FUCKIN' TRIFORCE, FOR EXAMPLE!).

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Yeah... they really fucked up that game big time.

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Posted: May 19 2010 02:06 am

Infendo.com wrote:

Shigeru Miyamoto is talking, again, and today the topic of conversation is Zelda. Specifically, the next Zelda title and its difficulty. You see, there exists in Nintendo a worry right now. A worry that the Zelda series has become too difficult (and too repetitive) for most people to play and enjoy. There are no longer any “surprises” for gamers when they pick up a Zelda title.

So, Miyamoto and producer Eiji Aonuma scrapped the traditional Nintendo system for developing a new game and went back to the drawing board. Gone is the demo movie that traditionally kick started game development, and in its place was a built-from-the-ground-up approach that saw developers attacking game mechanics first, and building the game around that.

wrote:

The past few Zelda games, on both home consoles and handhelds, have stuck to a fairly recognizable pattern that Miyamoto claims is complicated. Nintendo is “creating a new way to play the game,” said the developer. “We are trying to make Zelda, which has become very complicated, easier to play,” he continued.

I’m all for completely new and improved, and I’m glad Nintendo is apparently taking things so seriously with the next Zelda title. However, here’s what I hope “easier” does not mean:

1. Tutorials: They suck. Get rid of them. The original Zelda required no tutorial or hand-holding of any kind, and it still arguably one of the greatest video games ever created by man or woman. If I cannot pick up Zelda later this year, put the disc into the Wii, and immediately start getting into puzzle solving and exploring, the game is a failure. Tutorials are a dead giveaway that the developer is lazy or has created a bloated, convoluted game. They also waste my time. Everyone remembers how long it took to “get into” Twilight Princess, yes?

2. Treating gamers like babies: This is somewhat related to tutorials, but I’ll expand on it more here anyway. Basically, I do not think the hand-hlding feature found in Super Mario Bros. Wii should be included in Zelda. In fact, hand-holding of any kind should not be included in this title. The fun of Zelda is exploration, adventure and problem-solving. The entire crux of the game is a player’s sense of self-worth and accomplishment when they figure out some maddening puzzle or test or boss battle

Ironically, if Nintendo does include some kind of tutorial or cheat mode like NSMBW, it will hypocritically go against the very strategy they’ve been carefully cultivating for the past five years with the Wii and DS. That being: Casual gamers do not exist—gamers exist, and they come in all shapes, forms and tastes. “Casual gamers” is what competitors and marketers use to try and demean Nintendo and the expanding class of gamers their systems have created. “Casual” to these individuals also translates into “stupid” or “lesser” and hand-holding or tutorials or any kind of dumbed-down gameplay would be an acknowledgement by Nintendo that they somehow agree with the spin.

Note: Yes, I know we’ve already seen this troubling trend with Wii Sports Resort’s forced video tutorial and in NSMBW. I’m really hoping it is quashed with Zelda and Metroid Other M.

3. Trains: If new “mechanics” means some stupid, gimmicky mode of transportation, I will literally throw the disc out of my 3rd floor apartment window. I don’t care if Zelda is cel-shaded or not—just keep those stupid, pointless trains and boats away from me. Trains are not equal to innovation or “new game mechanics.”

4. Simplicity: This is actually a positive point. I wouldn’t mind at all if “easier” meant the controls were simplified to the point where it was movement and A and B. There’s something to be said of restricting a developer and forcing them to use simplified tools so that they can really focus on the user experience and not some convoluted control scheme, and if this is what Nintendo has in mind when they say easier and new mechanics, I’m all for it. Note that just having an A+B control scheme is not “dumbing down” Zelda at all, but it is making it “easier” to play, get into, and get exploring. Both player and developer would benefit from this simplicity, and, if done right, there’d be no sacrifice to game play or enjoyment or even challenge.

I'm sorry, but if it aint broke, don't fix it. I want a challenging Zelda with an insanely difficult Water level and Pit of 100 Trials.

Posted: May 19 2010 02:21 am

Andrew Man wrote:

monachetti wrote:

isn't link left handed?

Link has traditionally always been left-handed.

However, since appearing on the Wii (as a result of motion control) they put the sword in his right hand, accommodating for the fact that a majority of the population is indeed right handed.

With Wii technology shouldn't they be able to make Link switch-hit?

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Difficult? Not really...except for breaking my arm to catch that Hylian Loach. I don't mind a Majora's Mask style game. Of course what I would really like (broken record) is a fucking new Star Fox game that plays like the originals, or a new Donkey Kong game.

Posted: May 19 2010 11:55 am

Doddsino wrote:

Difficult? Not really...except for breaking my arm to catch that Hylian Loach. I don't mind a Majora's Mask style game. Of course what I would really like (broken record) is a fucking new Star Fox game that plays like the originals, or a new Donkey Kong game.

Yea, IMO Majora's Mask is the most difficult zelda, followed by Zelda II.

Posted: May 19 2010 12:21 pm

A couple of thoughts on the new Zelda:

1. At least give us the OPTION to play without motion controls. Especially now with the Classic Controller Pro, there is no reason in this day and age that we shouldn't at least have the choice.

2. Don't turn the Zelda series into the Final Fantasy series: An emo Japanese anime-fest with 20+ min cinema scenes and voice acting.

Posted: May 19 2010 01:43 pm

hardest zelda is II no doubt. then there are no hard ones, just maybe average difficulty. the one that had the most fun combat was wind waker imo