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Thorton02
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
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| 1. They sell "New" games however they can't just keep the damn things in their wrappers, they have to remove them from their cases and put them under the counter. While the game (should) still be "new" it just feels like I'm paying a new game with an old case. While that isn't the worst thing in the world it's kind of annoying. I also dislike trying to remove the price tag only to have it tear off wrong, leaving a splotch of adhesive on the case. |
I wondered about that!
My brother got me Onechanbara: Bikini Zombie Slayers for my birthday, which at the time, had only been out for 6 days. My brother assured me that despite the fact the game wasn't properly wrapped, it was indeed new. And it was. But that was still weird. Makes me wonder if the "used" copy of Zack & Wiki he got me there was also new.
It's really shitty of GS to do that, since sealed copies of some games can go for big money 15-50 years down the road. |
I never thought about that until I read this post. I bought Fallout 3 for $60 bucks and the idiot plastered this crappy stick on the case that ofcourse ripped and now the case looks like crap.
GS has crappy service, poor selection and overpriced products. I stopped going there when they reduced their PC selection to a thin rack hanging from a support beam making it impossible to reach the game on the top shelf.
I used to love going to the store to look around and buy the game, but when you can get if for cheaper and in the case of PC games, not even have to leave your house with the internet, these places have to work harder to stay in business.
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Optimist With Doubts
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I don't have any real issue against Gamestop, except that when I was buying Gears of War 2, the cashier spent the entire duration of the transaction telling me why a PS3 is better than Xbox360. Clearly I have a 360, since I'm buying a game for it.
I just thought it was poor salesmanship to bash the system I own when:
A) Your store SELLS the product you're bashing, along with games/accessories for said system.
B) In effect you're insulting me by telling me what a piece of shit my system is.
C) I didn't ask for any such commentary. A grunt was the only response I offered.
D) "This sucks....this good!" is not a very convincing case for me to drop $600 on a new system. |
It just furthers my argument that people can't discuss videogames without it turning into a dick measuring contest for consoles it's childish.
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| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
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I don't have any real issue against Gamestop, except that when I was buying Gears of War 2, the cashier spent the entire duration of the transaction telling me why a PS3 is better than Xbox360. Clearly I have a 360, since I'm buying a game for it.
I just thought it was poor salesmanship to bash the system I own when:
A) Your store SELLS the product you're bashing, along with games/accessories for said system.
B) In effect you're insulting me by telling me what a piece of shit my system is.
C) I didn't ask for any such commentary. A grunt was the only response I offered.
D) "This sucks....this good!" is not a very convincing case for me to drop $600 on a new system. |
It just furthers my argument that people can't discuss videogames without it turning into a dick measuring contest for consoles it's childish. |
Totally agree. Especially between Xbox360 and PS3. The graphics are nearly identical, and 98% of games are available on both systems. It just comes down to which exclusives you like more, which is a completely personal decision. It's assinine to claim that one system is superior to the other.
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Andrew Man
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| Ice2SeeYou wrote: |
| It's assinine to claim that one system is superior to the other. |
Unless you want to get technical about it.
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| Game retail is one of the hardest markets to be in. It's an economics thing. |
There is a difference between charging in the upwards of 500% more than what you purchase something for and selling something for a more reasonable amount. Buy a $7.99 game then turn around and say you want sell it back. They will offer you no more than $2. They just made 300% profit. Times that by 1000's of transactions. Game retail might be one of the best markets to be in. It's one of the few industries gaining profits in this recession.
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| Gamestop sucks because they bought out FuncoLand which also sucked. |
Technically Barnes and Noble bought them. I was there for the whole buyout. It was extremely shitty when they took away our stations to try games and removed the older stuff. It's all about floor space though. GameStop is already a tight quartered clustered fuck of a mess.
Once I finish college I plan on jumping back into the market, and lets just say that Gamestops profit margins are nausiating to say the least.
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SoldierHawk
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Yeah, the prices they buy/resell for are insanity, seriously. Out of curiosity, does their corporate HQ or whoever set the prices they pay for buybacks? I'm assuming it doesn't vary from store to store, right?
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Given I do infact pay for the monthly subscription but I see it as beneficial for me due to the fact that I buy alot of games. I would say that in the last year I've bought at least 40 games from them for my 360, PS3 and Wii along with just renting quite a few that I just want to try out.
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Douche McCallister
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Prices are set by corporate headquarters. All the computers are linked to a database so price changes can be done as clean and quickly as possible. Every store should have the exact same price structure unless otherwise authorized by corporate. Such as a particular game being in higher demand in a certain locale.
Also in regards to Hacker's post. They shouldn't give you a price quote on a trade in for one simple reason - Idiots will hear a price then come in a week later and be like you quoted me $25 now your saying its only $5? It alleviates a lot of retarded customers reacting stupidly.
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Douche, it pissed me off when I lived clear across town. I didn't want to have to convince my parents to drive me to gamestop only to tell me that the game I wanted to sell was only worth $3.36 and then go to game crazy and find out they would have given me $20
They also suck because the sold me a corrupt copy of a game.
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Ky-Guy
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Am I the only one whose Gamestop doesn't suck?  |
I must admit, all my local GS experiences have been fine. I have been there so regularly that the clerks more or less know me and they never try to push shit on me. The clerks at my GS are not that "roboticized" and a majority of them have a pretty good knowledge of the industry.
Plus, you can find some great deals on used games, I got Viewtiful Joe 1 & 2 for under 5 bucks (combined). |
Yeah, I can pretty much say the same about my local Gamestop. Hell, the guys there even know my name.
I don't know if that should be sweet or sad.
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lavalarva
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| They also suck because the sold me a corrupt copy of a game. |
Can you exchange it? I remember once buying a N64 game that couldn't save. I went back to the retailer two weeks later and they replaced it immediately.
But it was not at a Gamespot, it was at a flea market. I think the store was called "Yoshi" or something like that.
As for Gamestop itself, my local one is nice enough. The employees mostly talk among themselves if nobody's at the counter and they don't bother you while you search for games.
They're also have decent knowledge of the gaming industry, except when I wanted to buy GH3 and the guy on the phone asked me if I wanted the drums set
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Douche McCallister
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Douche, it pissed me off when I lived clear across town. I didn't want to have to convince my parents to drive me to gamestop only to tell me that the game I wanted to sell was only worth $3.36 and then go to game crazy and find out they would have given me $20
They also suck because the sold me a corrupt copy of a game. |
Blame it on Douchebags that try to make a scene or think they are being cheated. I'm not defending GameStop. I have a lot of horror stories from there. But I personally would have no problem telling people prices over the phone if I wasn't busy. It's horrible when people called asked for a price and then said oh and what about this, and this one, and this one...and so on. I would always tell them that the trade in prices are subject to change and to just use it as an estimate.
If you got a corrupt game you have a 30 day warranty. However make sure its the game and not your system. People didn't realize that the PS2 could "break" and only read Blue back or Silver back games.
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My friend works at Gamestop and he games hardcore. It's not the people, just the policies.
I have a similar price rip-off story: The local game store in my old neighborhood offered me $20 in store credit for trading in Super Street Fighter II Turbo Revival (GBA, I was stupid back then) while the GameStop in the nearest mall to me offered me only $5 or 8 (don't remember.) Support your local stores, guys... they're the future.
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I have no local stores. GameExchange is the closest thing, and while they still sell classic stuff and I love them for that, they're a franchise.
Oh, and I forgot about stickers on the game. Whether it be the case or the disc/cartridge/what have you itself, I fucking hate that.
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
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Douche, it pissed me off when I lived clear across town. I didn't want to have to convince my parents to drive me to gamestop only to tell me that the game I wanted to sell was only worth $3.36 and then go to game crazy and find out they would have given me $20
They also suck because the sold me a corrupt copy of a game. |
Blame it on Douchebags that try to make a scene or think they are being cheated. I'm not defending GameStop. I have a lot of horror stories from there. But I personally would have no problem telling people prices over the phone if I wasn't busy. It's horrible when people called asked for a price and then said oh and what about this, and this one, and this one...and so on. I would always tell them that the trade in prices are subject to change and to just use it as an estimate.
If you got a corrupt game you have a 30 day warranty. However make sure its the game and not your system. People didn't realize that the PS2 could "break" and only read Blue back or Silver back games. |
It was just cause for PS2. And no my ps2 wasn't broken
I couldn't trade it back because this was back when I lived across town.
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Bouya
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
There is a difference between charging in the upwards of 500% more than what you purchase something for and selling something for a more reasonable amount. Buy a $7.99 game then turn around and say you want sell it back. They will offer you no more than $2. They just made 300% profit. Times that by 1000's of transactions. Game retail might be one of the best markets to be in. It's one of the few industries gaining profits in this recession.
Once I finish college I plan on jumping back into the market, and lets just say that Gamestops profit margins are nausiating to say the least. |
The markup on used game is high, yes. But you do realize that's being done to recoup losses from pretty much every other area, right? New games and peripherals generally have poor markup, and it's safe to say that without the used game profits, there wouldn't be a Gamestop nowadays. Especially in the era of games dropping in price so quickly, which wasn't always the case 10+ years ago. It's not like a Target or WM where they can take a hit on new games because they make it back with sales from other departments.
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New games and systems always have poor markup. Still they make atleast $5 per new game and about almost nothin on systems. When you factor in that all they do pretty much now is fill preorders there is hardl any lose and massive profit. A game sells 100,000 copies the first week? that $5,000,000+ just in profit, not to mention add ons like strat guides or game protection.
There is a reasonable trade in price for every price level of game. However GameStop is completely abusing the customers, most of which don't know any better. There have been times as a joke one of the employees has said to me, "Do you just want to give it to us, it's a Nickel?"
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The wrapper removal is stupid. I bought a game, played it briefly, everything was in great shape, returned it the next day and I could not get my money back because I had removed the wrapper. The store I go to will never remove the wrapper unless they are selling it used. Keep it factory sealed, I would not buy a game from a place that removed the wrapper. Leave an empty copy out and keep the games in the back room.
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I spend most of my time at gamecrazy, but still venture into GameStop once in a while. However, last time i went into one, this happened.
I saw a Track Pack for rockband 360. Not having live to download them, I said fuck yes. I noticed it was used, which was also awesome, as i love cheap shit. Go to the counter, as him if I needed live to download them onto the main setlist for the game.
"Oh, you can't put it on the main game anyway. IT's used, so someone already has the download code used. YOu could only play it as standalone."
"....Then why are you selling it used?"
"*shrug* You still want it?"
Why the fuck would i still want it if it wont do what I just asked, and you gave me no reason for it to even be on the shelves? GameCrazy FTW.
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
New games and systems always have poor markup. Still they make atleast $5 per new game and about almost nothin on systems. When you factor in that all they do pretty much now is fill preorders there is hardl any lose and massive profit. A game sells 100,000 copies the first week? that $5,000,000+ just in profit, not to mention add ons like strat guides or game protection.
There is a reasonable trade in price for every price level of game. However GameStop is completely abusing the customers, most of which don't know any better. There have been times as a joke one of the employees has said to me, "Do you just want to give it to us, it's a Nickel?" |
I would imagine the profit from first-week sales combined with the marked-down sales to people like me who wait for $29, make the whole thing a wash as far as new sales go. Can't say that for sure, but I'm pretty sure.
And the solution to the trade-ins is to simply quit trading things in. But good luck getting a nationwide movement with that.
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| Ky-Guy wrote: |
Am I the only one whose Gamestop doesn't suck?  |
Mines is awesome, they carry GBA/GBC/SNES/SEGA games , and they sell CD's from local artist [ that's an under the counter thing]
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Douche McCallister
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New games and systems always have poor markup. Still they make atleast $5 per new game and about almost nothin on systems. When you factor in that all they do pretty much now is fill preorders there is hardl any lose and massive profit. A game sells 100,000 copies the first week? that $5,000,000+ just in profit, not to mention add ons like strat guides or game protection.
There is a reasonable trade in price for every price level of game. However GameStop is completely abusing the customers, most of which don't know any better. There have been times as a joke one of the employees has said to me, "Do you just want to give it to us, it's a Nickel?" |
I would imagine the profit from first-week sales combined with the marked-down sales to people like me who wait for $29, make the whole thing a wash as far as new sales go. Can't say that for sure, but I'm pretty sure.
And the solution to the trade-ins is to simply quit trading things in. But good luck getting a nationwide movement with that. |
I made a typo regarding the profit it should've been $500,000 less impressive then previously stated. But in regards to mark downs: New games are rarely if ever marked down, their used game counterparts are though. When they are marked down it means they have an abundance of stock that isn't moving or the buzz surrounding it has faded. The only time it may appear to be a mark down is when the company recieves another shipment of games while they still have some of the previous shipment. If the new price for those games are cheaper they will mark the games down. That is pretty much the only incident that would cause a new game to get marked down. Plus with their pre-order strategy they have very little if any loss in this aspect.
If you buy back a $49.99 game and sell it for $44.99 you usually have a break even point of about $22.99 which means in order for them to be out on profits they would have to have the game traded in and stay on their shelf for a duration of several months if not longer for it to reach a price at which the trade in price exceeds the selling price. I'm not saying it doesn't happen but it's not a common occurence. And who here hasn't heard of stories about Gamestop selling a used copy for $7.99 and a new copy for $49.99 or even Used copies for more than new copies.
I've had a very indepth experience with them and have done a lot of research over the course of the past couple years. They are screwy to say the least.
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| I made a typo regarding the profit it should've been $500,000 less impressive then previously stated. But in regards to mark downs: New games are rarely if ever marked down, their used game counterparts are though. When they are marked down it means they have an abundance of stock that isn't moving or the buzz surrounding it has faded. The only time it may appear to be a mark down is when the company recieves another shipment of games while they still have some of the previous shipment. If the new price for those games are cheaper they will mark the games down. That is pretty much the only incident that would cause a new game to get marked down. Plus with their pre-order strategy they have very little if any loss in this aspect. |
This doesn't make sense to me. Outside of some GTA/Halo/Mario-level title, it seems like games tend to drop price in a hurry any more. Not like the week after they come out, but maybe 4-6 weeks after, as you said about the buzz dying down. So if it was $59, now it's $49. Then $39 later, and at some point you're selling new copies for less than the company paid for them, if you still have copies from the initial batch.
I don't know GS' buying patterns, but unless they ordered replenishment months in advance and can't cancel, ordering more stock of an item that isn't selling, just seems foolish. All I know is the new-game market isn't their bread and butter, because in the old days game stores didn't carry used, but now it's a necessity. :shrug:
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This doesn't make sense to me. Outside of some GTA/Halo/Mario-level title, it seems like games tend to drop price in a hurry any more. Not like the week after they come out, but maybe 4-6 weeks after, as you said about the buzz dying down. So if it was $59, now it's $49. Then $39 later, and at some point you're selling new copies for less than the company paid for them, if you still have copies from the initial batch.
I don't know GS' buying patterns, but unless they ordered replenishment months in advance and can't cancel, ordering more stock of an item that isn't selling, just seems foolish. All I know is the new-game market isn't their bread and butter, because in the old days game stores didn't carry used, but now it's a necessity. :shrug: |
The new games reduce in price because the games sales figures have usually been hit. Kind of like "Greatest Hits". Once it hits a Game Developers target profitability and sales plateau they implement a slight price decrease periodicaly down to bargain status. Obviously the more people that buy your game the more money you make. Now GameStop will get notices well in advance of a price cut that will be implemented, that's when they start trying to sell out of it right along with the time that the price will drop. At which time they purchase another order at the reduced price. In some cases they don't and they have a left over game that is more expensive then its brethren.
And Used games isn't a neccessity, the stores realized on how big of a cash cow used game sales were and boom now we got fingerprinted and scratched games from little Bobby who doesn't know how to put a cd back in its case. :shakes fist:
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Doesn't GameStop have an industrial buffer to get rid of scratches and fingerprints?
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