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Kojjiro!
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Why is Fox rebooting one of the most successful franchises in movie history? Because of money, and the need to return to the "single alien on a ship" plotline...
Fox feels that the idea of having a bunch of Aliens on screen does not work. So Fox is going back to the one "Alien on a ship" idea we all saw in the first installment Alien. This one Alien picked off the stubborn somewhat snobby crew until only Ripley was alive and available to kick that Alien's acid dripping jabroni jiving simple arse.
What? What did you say? It doesn't matter what you said! When heavy hitters like Michael Costigan, Ridley Scott and even Tony Scott are on board to produce and have asked Carl Rinsch to get above the camera and bring a new Ripley to the silver screen, it would seem that the powers that be have their minds made up on what direction this updated version of Alien will go. Its almost hard to call this a reboot, simply because we saw this idea in Alien. That's what the trades are calling it but I am way more comfortable with calling this a remake.
Wondering who Carl Rinsch is? Me too, I found out that he is commercial/music video director and does work for Scott Free Productions, who is also producing the remake.
Not sure how commercial and music videos relate to one of the most horrifying space story's of all time but hey, its all about who ya know in this business.
I guess the next question is "Who will make a good Ripley?"
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/LetsCutTheBS/news/?a=7718
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Rycona
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I taste something in my mouth. It's very familiar...
....oh yea, it's puke.
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jprime
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I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake.
What I pictured, though, was a prequel to the franchise, Alien Origins, directed by the one person who's appropriate for the job: Sigourney Weaver.
But I digress. That idea for us to gather IRL and march on Hollywood? Still open.
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Rycona
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| I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake. |
As much as I like Alien and Metroid, it just sounds like a big circle jerk.
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ReeperTheSeeker
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I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake.
What I pictured, though, was a prequel to the franchise, Alien Origins, directed by the one person who's appropriate for the job: Sigourney Weaver.
But I digress. That idea for us to gather IRL and march on Hollywood? Still open. |
I wouldn't mind finding some ambiguous things from a prequel, like what that one alien was in the first movie, the one aboard the space ship that the eggs were found on, had the first signs of the chestburster.
Or how Ash came to know about the aliens. Or better yet, make Aliens 3 the way it should have been, with Humans vs Aliens on earth.
other then that, an origin story for Aliens or remake in general, is not surprising but unsettling.
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anorexorcist
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| jprime wrote: |
| I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake. |
As much as I like Alien and Metroid, it just sounds like a big circle jerk. |
Fuck marching, I'd do a hell of a lot more than that. Call up the the closest IRA sect.
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IceWarm
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Fuck this! There is no way anybody can top or even come close to playing Ripley like Sigourney Weaver.
However maybe a reboot is the only way to save this franchise after the franchise killing AvP movies. But I still think it is a bad idea.
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Knyte
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This is Ripley:
Nobody else.
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Ermac
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This is Ripley:
Nobody else. |
The Ripley character was a badass in Alien 3, too bad the movie sucked otherwise
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jprime
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| The Ripley character was a badass in Alien 3, too bad the movie sucked otherwise. |
About that...am I really the only one here who can watch and thoroughly enjoy the two '90s Alien movies?
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Shut up, Dorn
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That is spank bank.
An Alien reboot is just more proof that Hollywood is running low on ideas that can make them substantial amounts of money. It's been happening for years now, it's just getting irritating now.
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Shut up, Dorn
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I think it is coming to the point to where they have to take these popular franchises and reboot them because it's the only thing that will make them much money. In my film class this spring, we discussed about just how much ridiculousballsdeep money it takes just to get a movie from preproduction to DVD. That's what I believe is a reason for all those special/director/OMFG edition DVDs.
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Knyte
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The sad thing is, most of the Shovelware and remake films are coming from one studio: Fox.
They used to have quality films, and many classics came from them, but since the new regime took over, it's "What can we do to make the most money with the least effort? Remakes! Hell Yeah!"
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MOGHARR
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I think it's about time a committee of nerds was formed that had the power to approve or deny all movie remakes or offshoots like this.
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I think we need to take to the streets with guns and start killing Hollywood producers. I'm not 100% on this, but I'm pretty sure the Constitution says we can.
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TheRoboSleuth
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Probably in the numero uno, that ones kinda a catch all. Its like freedom of the press, religion, and freedom to inflict harm on those who abuse franchises.
I got in big trouble cause I beat up the guy who does megaman, and it turns out he was japanese and that is not cool.
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jprime
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I sincerely hope you're kidding, RobotGumshoe, because if you're not...
Also, since no one's answered yet:
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SoldierHawk
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I sincerely hope you're kidding, RobotGumshoe, because if you're not...
Also, since no one's answered yet:
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Absolutely not. Don't get me wrong, Aliens is the best of the bunch (imho, although the original is fantastic too) and Ripley is a freaking Godess as far as I'm concerned in all of them. But I firmly believe that her finest moment as a character comes at the end of Aliens 3, when she grabs the baby Queen alien and dies with it in the fire to fuck over Michael and his henchmen. There's a lot to criticize about the movie, but that was a perfect moment for me, and the perfect way for Ripley to go out.
I kinda am not a huge fan of Resurrection, because the whole deus-ex machina clone thing for bringing Ripley back cheapens the whole sacrifice moment I love so much in 3. Once passed that though, its a perfectly acceptable entry into the franchise. Its not a classic, but its entertaining enough. And Sigourny Weaver in anything, especially as Ripley, automatically boosts it like 10 points on the awesome meter anyway.
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Black Zarak
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| ReeperTheSeeker wrote: |
| jprime wrote: |
I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake.
What I pictured, though, was a prequel to the franchise, Alien Origins, directed by the one person who's appropriate for the job: Sigourney Weaver.
But I digress. That idea for us to gather IRL and march on Hollywood? Still open. |
I wouldn't mind finding some ambiguous things from a prequel, like what that one alien was in the first movie, the one aboard the space ship that the eggs were found on, had the first signs of the chestburster.
Or how Ash came to know about the aliens. Or better yet, make Aliens 3 the way it should have been, with Humans vs Aliens on earth.
other then that, an origin story for Aliens or remake in general, is not surprising but unsettling. |
They talk about those aliens in one of the comic arcs, I forget the details, but they're a race of super intelligent telepaths who encounter the aliens somewhere and subsequently crash after they kill most of the crew. The story had something to do with a human survivor meeting a survivor of that race as they both fled from aliens, though I seem to recall the mystery race being portrayed as even more dangerous than the aliens.
Edit: According to Wiki, my memories are pretty much spot on:
"Mark Verheiden's Aliens graphic novel depict the Space Jockey's race as malevolent; they refrain from attacking humans due to their immense hatred of their common enemy, the Xenomorphs, and they intend to wipe out and/or enslave humanity once their war with the Xenomorphs is over. In the series, a Space Jockey-like creature communicates telepathically with humans."
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| jprime wrote: |
I sincerely hope you're kidding, RobotGumshoe, because if you're not...
Also, since no one's answered yet:
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Absolutely not. Don't get me wrong, Aliens is the best of the bunch (imho, although the original is fantastic too) and Ripley is a freaking Godess as far as I'm concerned in all of them. But I firmly believe that her finest moment as a character comes at the end of Aliens 3, when she grabs the baby Queen alien and dies with it in the fire to fuck over Michael and his henchmen. There's a lot to criticize about the movie, but that was a perfect moment for me, and the perfect way for Ripley to go out.
I kinda am not a huge fan of Resurrection, because the whole deus-ex machina clone thing for bringing Ripley back cheapens the whole sacrifice moment I love so much in 3. Once passed that though, its a perfectly acceptable entry into the franchise. Its not a classic, but its entertaining enough. And Sigourny Weaver in anything, especially as Ripley, automatically boosts it like 10 points on the awesome meter anyway. |
Alien3 was okay. It was nowhere near as good as its predecessors, but it was decent and the sacrifice at the end was a good way to end everything. I am not going to say that Resurrection was bad, but it didn't need to happen. Alien3 didn't need to happen either, but it fit in okay with the other films. Resurrection just came off as an attempt to cash in on a franchise though that already came to a decent conclusion. I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either. The original Alien and Aliens were awesome movies though, and it is hard to follow up on something like that.
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ReeperTheSeeker
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| jprime wrote: |
I just realized...this time, it's a Metroid game that inspires an Alien movie. Metroid: Zero Mission (which I'm playing today, incidentally) was a remake of Metroid, itself inspired by Alien. Now it's inspired this Alien remake.
What I pictured, though, was a prequel to the franchise, Alien Origins, directed by the one person who's appropriate for the job: Sigourney Weaver.
But I digress. That idea for us to gather IRL and march on Hollywood? Still open. |
I wouldn't mind finding some ambiguous things from a prequel, like what that one alien was in the first movie, the one aboard the space ship that the eggs were found on, had the first signs of the chestburster.
Or how Ash came to know about the aliens. Or better yet, make Aliens 3 the way it should have been, with Humans vs Aliens on earth.
other then that, an origin story for Aliens or remake in general, is not surprising but unsettling. |
They talk about those aliens in one of the comic arcs, I forget the details, but they're a race of super intelligent telepaths who encounter the aliens somewhere and subsequently crash after they kill most of the crew. The story had something to do with a human survivor meeting a survivor of that race as they both fled from aliens, though I seem to recall the mystery race being portrayed as even more dangerous than the aliens.
Edit: According to Wiki, my memories are pretty much spot on:
"Mark Verheiden's Aliens graphic novel depict the Space Jockey's race as malevolent; they refrain from attacking humans due to their immense hatred of their common enemy, the Xenomorphs, and they intend to wipe out and/or enslave humanity once their war with the Xenomorphs is over. In the series, a Space Jockey-like creature communicates telepathically with humans." |
Thanks Zarak, i did an image search of "Space Jockey" and apperantly that is what they are called. Now that THAT Alien is no longer a mystery, there really is no need for me to see the reboot now.
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Kojjiro!
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if anything I feel a prequel wont have anything to do based on that comic. I remember hearing ridley scott saying something on the aliens DVD commentary that him and the actors felt the creature was 'benign' and it would certainly be a pretty good change for a sci-fi film to have an alien race that wasn't trying to kill us (ala commonwealth)
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SoldierHawk
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| Kojjiro! wrote: |
| if anything I feel a prequel wont have anything to do based on that comic. I remember hearing ridley scott saying something on the aliens DVD commentary that him and the actors felt the creature was 'benign' and it would certainly be a pretty good change for a sci-fi film to have an alien race that wasn't trying to kill us (ala commonwealth) |
Man, that would be pretty cool. I'd be all for that, if only for curiosities' sake.
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Black Zarak
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I'm not saying they're going to follow the comics (they never do) I'm just telling ya what's been written about the Space Jockeys thus far
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