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Posted: May 21 2009 04:42 pm

Dr. Jeebus wrote:

On the whole tolerance thing, I need to look this up but I believe your tolerance for weed actually becomes LOWER the more you smoke, meaning the more pot you've smoked, the less you need to smoke to get high. I'd have to look it up, but I remember learning that marijuana builds up somewhere in your body, and thusly smoking a little like activates it or something. This is also opposite of like EVERY other drug, but it may also explain why marijuana is not physically addictive unlike drugs like caffeine, heroin, and pain killers which people do build up a tolerance to. (At this point, all the soda I drink doesn't keep me awake, it just keeps the symptoms of withdrawal away).

Really? I didn't know that. Although come to think of it, you never do hear about marijuana addicts. Stoners who use it all the time by choice yeah, but I've never heard of someone having to "detox" from it or whatever.

Random question about the soda drinking: is it ONLY soda that does it for you, or caffeine in general? Like if you started drinking coffee, would that do the same for you? Also, I know a while ago you mentioned switching to diet sodas to loose weight. Aren't most diet sodas caffeine free? (Your pardon if I'm being too nosy. I was just curious.)

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

I've smoked off and on for around 9 years, smoke two years, quit for one, that kind of thing.

I just don't see why anyone would even talk about it like this, except for the sole reason that it is illegal. The only horrible things I have seen from drug abuse has come from alcohol and narcotics, along with amphetamines and cocaine derived substances. If someone says their life has been ruined by pot, then you are watching too much 700 Club.

Also, I tried narcotics way before I tried pot. Medicine cabinet is closer and faster than going to a dealer, which is pretty much the norm nowadays, kids snortin' shit up the nose. People who are younger than me won't even go near pot but always have a shitload of pills. I've said it once and I'll say it again (hopefully it could be my catchphrase) but....It's fucking depressing.

Also, please don't get the impression I am on drugs, as I have been sober from narcotics for over 5 months. Woohoo!!

Joined: Oct 12 2007 Posts: 821

SoldierHawk wrote:

Really? I didn't know that. Although come to think of it, you never do hear about marijuana addicts. Stoners who use it all the time by choice yeah, but I've never heard of someone having to "detox" from it or whatever.

It doesn't get much attention, but MA exists. I have a cousin who is a marijuana addict, but from what I understand he has been sober for a good deal of time.

Posted: May 21 2009 07:41 pm

haha. You cant get a physical dependency on marijuana, as in you cannot get withdrawls from it. Anyone that is a marijuana addict only THINKS they can't go without it because they have a mental dependency on it. It doesn't alter your chemistry or make your body physically think it needs it.

Strangely enough, the only withdrawl you can die from is alcohol.

EDIT: to soldierhawk: Most diet sodas contain caffeine still unless it specifies it like caffeine free diet pepsi

Joined: Oct 12 2007 Posts: 821

Burt Reynolds wrote:

haha. You cant get a physical dependency on marijuana, as in you cannot get withdrawls from it. Anyone that is a marijuana addict only THINKS they can't go without it because they have a mental dependency on it. It doesn't alter your chemistry or make your body physically think it needs it.

Indeed, but the mental is just as worrisome as the physical, as there is no way you are going to stop if you think you need it, and by the time you reach this point, you aren't listening to logic. This is why 12 step programs take so long to work, it is breaking the need to return to the drug that takes forever.

Posted: May 21 2009 08:23 pm

nihilisticglee wrote:

Indeed, but the mental is just as worrisome as the physical, as there is no way you are going to stop if you think you need it, and by the time you reach this point, you aren't listening to logic. This is why 12 step programs take so long to work, it is breaking the need to return to the drug that takes forever.

QFT.

Just because you don't physically need it doesn't mean it isn't ruining your life. Gambling isn't physically addictive either.

Posted: May 23 2009 04:10 am

I'm surprised there's not one Bill Hicks quote so far. Confused

Posted: May 23 2009 12:10 pm

SoldierHawk wrote:

Dr. Jeebus wrote:

On the whole tolerance thing, I need to look this up but I believe your tolerance for weed actually becomes LOWER the more you smoke, meaning the more pot you've smoked, the less you need to smoke to get high. I'd have to look it up, but I remember learning that marijuana builds up somewhere in your body, and thusly smoking a little like activates it or something. This is also opposite of like EVERY other drug, but it may also explain why marijuana is not physically addictive unlike drugs like caffeine, heroin, and pain killers which people do build up a tolerance to. (At this point, all the soda I drink doesn't keep me awake, it just keeps the symptoms of withdrawal away).

Really? I didn't know that. Although come to think of it, you never do hear about marijuana addicts. Stoners who use it all the time by choice yeah, but I've never heard of someone having to "detox" from it or whatever.

Random question about the soda drinking: is it ONLY soda that does it for you, or caffeine in general? Like if you started drinking coffee, would that do the same for you? Also, I know a while ago you mentioned switching to diet sodas to loose weight. Aren't most diet sodas caffeine free? (Your pardon if I'm being too nosy. I was just curious.)

Marijauana is not physically addictive, only psychologically.
Diet soda has caffeine if it's the diet version of something with caffeine (So diet coke and diet barqs do, whereas diet sprite and diet mug do not). As for coffee, it tastes like shit which is why I drink soda. I don't drink soda for caffeine, I drink it for taste.

Posted: May 23 2009 02:41 pm

I don't do drugs ever, at all, and I've stopped drinking too, but weed is the one drug I never someone shit for. It isn't addictive, you won't go through withdrawals. It just makes you stupid and smelly. Of course this changes per person, and if you're high 24/7 then your quality of life and status as an acceptable member of society will decrease significantly but...lost my train of thought.

Either way, I have no problem with pot-heads, save for how fucking irritating they can be sometimes.

Posted: May 23 2009 04:00 pm

Blackout wrote:

I'm surprised there's not one Bill Hicks quote so far. Confused

Damnit, I should have been paying attention.

"If you think drugs have never done anything good, go home, take all your albums and burn 'em 'cause the people that made them, reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal fuckin' high on drugs" -Bill Hicks.

Joined: May 13 2009 Location: lowell, ma Posts: 289

Ross Rifle wrote:

I don't do drugs ever, at all, and I've stopped drinking too, but weed is the one drug I never someone shit for. It isn't addictive, you won't go through withdrawals. It just makes you stupid and smelly. Of course this changes per person, and if you're high 24/7 then your quality of life and status as an acceptable member of society will decrease significantly but...lost my train of thought.

Either way, I have no problem with pot-heads, save for how fucking irritating they can be sometimes.

I think I may be a smelly pothead. But I mean well.

Posted: May 23 2009 11:43 pm

All potheads are smelly. If they don't stink like pot, they stink like all the cologne they poured on to cover the pot-stink Razz

Posted: May 23 2009 11:55 pm

Ross Rifle wrote:

All potheads are smelly. If they don't stink like pot, they stink like all the cologne they poured on to cover the pot-stink Razz

I never really smell like pot and the only cologne I where is a regular small amount, don't try covering it up.

Joined: Oct 12 2008 Posts: 14

I am a Senior in College following a Criminal justice degree, my most influential professor, an ex Oakland police officer had this to say about marijuana being a gateway drug. "Marijuana is not a gateway drug, if it were, everyone who does hardcore drugs must have smoked pot, no it's potatoes, potatoes are the gateway drug. Everyone who has smoked pot, blew coke, smoked crack or even killed someone has eaten potatoes. So i propose we make potatoes illegal because they are obviously the cause of all the evils in the world." He definitely made a good point, he felt that marijuana should be legalized and as a future law enforcement professional i feel the same way. The government will never be able to win the war on drugs, every single class I've taken criminal justice oriented has told me that. It makes more sense to make some money off a a drug that is less addictive than cigarettes, hell it's been medically proven to not be addictive at all. Marijuana was made illegal to help turn the publics anger away from the government and the cluster fuck that was the Vietnam war and set it against people that smoked pot. I think everyone should watch the movie "Reefer Madness" to see just how ridiculous the actions were that the government took to terrify the public with the "threat" of marijuana.