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Posted: May 18 2009 08:19 pm

Hey, guys. I was wondering recently, did you ever have a moment where you were going to try to kill off a video game character to see the bad ending only to eventually think to yourself, "aw, I can't do this," and stop trying? Well, I decided to make a thread to mention these emotionally difficult to kill characters. Just mention the character and why he/she is so emotionally difficult to kill off.

I'll start this off. . .

Captain Olimar:

Yeah, Pikmin is an addictive game. Yeah, I think it's truly awesome. Yeah, I think it could be one of the best speed run games ever. Although, I never owned a copy, or really got into the game, until it was re-released on the Wii as part of its "New Play Control" series, though I did rent it for a bit when I first got my Gamecube some years ago.

Now, those of you who have played the game, or at least read about him in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, should know that Captain Olimar's spaceship, the Dolphin, was hit by an asteroid on the way home, on the planet Hocotate. In the first game, he had only thirty days to get thirty parts (which means a part a day, unless you're really good) until his life support system fails and our hero succumbs to the apparently poisonous oxygen. (Which makes me wonder what the people of Hocotate breathe. Is it helium?)

Anyway, I tried to kill him off to see the bad ending of the game (which was a day or so after I got the best ending, which you only get after getting all thirty parts), and I couldn't. It was probably because during that first run, I read a journal entry describing his family, complete with an adorable drawing of the family. I just couldn't do it. He's just an innocent, adorable, little big-nosed man with an adorable, little big-nosed family. I didn't want the family to have an adorable, little big-nosed burial at sea. . . or space, for that matter.

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I've never really had this problem except for General Pepper in Star Fox Assault.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:32 pm

The Boss in Metal Gear Solid 3. After you beat her you are required to hit the button on the controller to kill her. That was kind of hard, especially on a second play through after you know the truth about her intentions.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:42 pm

Every time I play through RE1, I have to give Barry his gun back and keep him alive.

And I have to make friends with Weird Ed every time I play Maniac Mansion. Hell, I feel guilty if I don't leave the cheese in the fridge for him.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 18 2009 08:47 pm

I have a hard time killing Magus. Even though I don't really want him in my party.

Posted: May 18 2009 08:48 pm

My least favorite video game kill would have to be Phaedra, the 4th (horse/giraffe/llama/whatever) colossus from "Shadow of the Colossus." The poor thing doesn't do anything to you at all, and you brutally mislead and murder the poor thing. I feel horrible every time I kill colossus 5 (the bird--he just sits there, looking at you curiously until you provoke him) and 13 (the dragon/flying insect thing, that just flies around peacefully until you shoot him out of the sky) as well, but the sound effect they use for Phaedra's shrieks of pain are just particularly heartbreaking.

I also feel bad every time I play Mass Effect, making the choice between Kaiden and Ashley. Either way, I end up feeling like an asshole for the rest of the game for letting one of them die.

God dammit now I'm all sad. Sad

Posted: May 18 2009 08:53 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

And I have to make friends with Weird Ed every time I play Maniac Mansion. Hell, I feel guilty if I don't leave the cheese in the fridge for him.

I smell a demotivational poster

also I forgot their was a Syd in Maniac Mansion, I remember not being able to beat the game without Bernard, anybody else have this problem?

I can't get enough of Dave's Theme, great tune.

Posted: May 18 2009 09:22 pm

IceWarm wrote:

The Boss in Metal Gear Solid 3. After you beat her you are required to hit the button on the controller to kill her. That was kind of hard, especially on a second play through after you know the truth about her intentions.

I too felt the same way about that fight, then the very end I just couldn't pull the trigger, so the game did it for me anyways. But on the MGS spectrum, I wanted to pull the trigger on the fight between Snake, MGRex and Grey Fox. I would have put him out of his misery to save the world like that. But the way Liquid crushed him only pissed me off more.

Surprisingly Haze, I had a tough time killing the Boosh brothers, they were just like children, and when they died, it was just horrible to watch.

The Grey Prince in Oblivion at the end of the Arena story. He's a good guy, but I hate to kill him because of his lineage.

Posted: May 18 2009 09:26 pm

Alice from Shadow Hearts. In order to get the bad ending for that game you have to let her fend for herself against Atman (The alternate choice being to do a mini-sidequest to prevent her from fighting alone). If she loses then at the end of the game you see the bad ending where she dies in her sleep during a train-ride. I always loved the good ending (even though they use the bad ending to continue the story in the sequel) so I found it incredibly hard to bring myself to let her fight alone during that battle.

Posted: May 18 2009 09:48 pm

SoldierHawk wrote:

My least favorite video game kill would have to be Phaedra, the 4th (horse/giraffe/llama/whatever) colossus from "Shadow of the Colossus." The poor thing doesn't do anything to you at all, and you brutally mislead and murder the poor thing. I feel horrible every time I kill colossus 5 (the bird--he just sits there, looking at you curiously until you provoke him) and 13 (the dragon/flying insect thing, that just flies around peacefully until you shoot him out of the sky) as well, but the sound effect they use for Phaedra's shrieks of pain are just particularly heartbreaking.

I also feel bad every time I play Mass Effect, making the choice between Kaiden and Ashley. Either way, I end up feeling like an asshole for the rest of the game for letting one of them die.

God dammit now I'm all sad. Sad

Pretty much any colossus is pretty hard to kill, especially after you know why they exist and that in killing these majestic beasts you really are the bad guy.
Edit: Also in the Monster Rancher games I have a hard time sending in my monsters to get "Deactivated" or whatever.

Posted: May 18 2009 10:31 pm

ToGdor wrote:

Pretty much any colossus is pretty hard to kill, especially after you know why they exist and that in killing these majestic beasts you really are the bad guy.

Yeah, I have to agree. Those were absolutely the hardest ones though, since they were entirely peaceful and innocent and do nothing to attack until you provoke them. The first colossus at least started taking swings when he saw you, ditto the third. And the water eel is so fucking terrifying that I wanted to kill it on general principle alone *shudder*. God that was a frightening fight.

Those goddamn fast little dog ones I had no real qualms about, since they just about rip your throat out on contact. (Although I didn't like forcing the one over the cliff with fire. That was mean.) Fifteen is just plain scary, and sixteen...well, he tries to blow your ass up lol.

Posted: May 18 2009 10:42 pm

StarFox Assault and Mass Effect were both bad for me too. Also, and this may not count, but any time I have to send someone to their death in Fire Emblem really sucks too.

Posted: May 18 2009 10:55 pm

Just thought of a couple
Lady Sialeeds from Suikoden V. She may have caused much grief but when you have to fight her in the battles, ontop of that her underlying cause to end the war, it's hard to say that i felt sorry for her. I also hate killing Teo McDohl in the first Suikoden. He's your father in that game and to kill him just doesn't seem right. But he does seem happy that his son surpassed him.

Posted: May 19 2009 01:27 am

Dogmeat in Fallout 1 or 2. Every time you accidentally pump him full of 10mm rounds, you can't help but reload your last save, sometimes losing hours of gameplay.

Posted: May 19 2009 02:44 am

SoldierHawk wrote:

ToGdor wrote:

Pretty much any colossus is pretty hard to kill, especially after you know why they exist and that in killing these majestic beasts you really are the bad guy.

Yeah, I have to agree. Those were absolutely the hardest ones though, since they were entirely peaceful and innocent and do nothing to attack until you provoke them. The first colossus at least started taking swings when he saw you, ditto the third. And the water eel is so fucking terrifying that I wanted to kill it on general principle alone *shudder*. God that was a frightening fight.

Those goddamn fast little dog ones I had no real qualms about, since they just about rip your throat out on contact. (Although I didn't like forcing the one over the cliff with fire. That was mean.) Fifteen is just plain scary, and sixteen...well, he tries to blow your ass up lol.

Nifty note, the collosus have names as follows, copied from a gamefaq.
#1- (The minotaur)
Designation: Minotaur Colossus
Proper name: Valus
Latin name: Minotaurus Colossus

#2- (The bull)
Designation: Taurus Major
Proper name: Quadratus
Latin name: Taurus Magnus

#3- (The knight)
Designation: Earth Truth
Proper name: Gaius
Latin name: Terrestris Veritas

#4- (The horse)
Designation: Elite War Horse
Proper name: Phaedra
Latin name: Equus Bellator Apex

#5- (The bird)
Designation: Bird of Prey
Proper name: Avion
Latin name: Avis Praeda

#6- (The bearded giant)
Designation: Great Beast
Proper name: Barba
Latin name: Belua Maximus

#7- (The electric eel)
Designation: Sea Serpent
Proper name: Hydrus
Latin name: Draco Marinus

#8- (The lizard)
Designation: Wall Shadow
Proper name: Kuromori
Latin name: Parietinae Umbra

#9- (The tortoise)
Designation: Storm Echo
Proper name: Basaran
Latin name: Nimbus Recanto

#10- (The sand worm)
Designation: Sand Tiger
Proper name: Dirge
Latin name: Harena Tigris

#11- (The tiger)
Designation: Flame Guardian
Proper name: Celosia
Latin name: Ignis Excubitor

#12- (The sea monster)
Designation: Great Sea Monster
Proper name: Pelagia
Latin name: Permagnus Pistrix

#13- (The flying serpent)
Designation: Air Sailer
Proper name: Phalanx
Latin name: Aeris Velivolus

#14- (The lion)
Designation: Destruction Luster
Proper name: Cenobia
Latin name: Cladeds Candor

#15- (The warrior)
Designation: Vigilant Sentinel
Proper name: Argus
Latin name: Praesidium Vigilo

#16- (The sorcerer)
Designation: Grand Superior
Proper name: Malus
Latin name: Grandis Supernus

I agree about the bad feeling you get from killing the collosus. I don't feel as bad about killing the horse though, though that owes to my marked distate for the critters. They creep me out. The flying serpent though. Only one of them that seems out and out chill.

In FFVI I won't kill off Cid with bad fish, even though its a bit more interesting storywise.

Posted: May 19 2009 03:04 am

I've read the colossus names; I really love that the creators went through the trouble of thinking up latin ones lol. That's just awesome. But you don't like horses? Sad

God, I love them. Only birds are higher on my personal animal hierarchy. I think Avion is pretty chill though--it just sits there, until you go and shoot it in the face with an arrow. At which point, I'd swoop down and try to kick ass too.

Great call on Cid in FFVI. I still reset the game if he dies.

Posted: May 19 2009 03:15 am

Also in shadow of the colossus, it's hard to let Wanderer go into the pool at the end.I always try to escape, but you can't.

Posted: May 19 2009 11:38 am

I always felt bad for the Bearded Giant (or Belua Maximus...I guess). The only one I out and out hated was the Lion. I never actually played the game myself, but my younger brother has it and I watched him defeat them.

Posted: May 19 2009 02:17 pm

ToGdor wrote:

Also in shadow of the colossus, it's hard to let Wanderer go into the pool at the end.I always try to escape, but you can't.

Well, I don't feel so much guilty for that, since there's nothing you can do. I just feel sad. I do feel guilty every time I make that last jump over the bridge to 16's area though, since I know what's going to happen when I do. Sad

I've never really felt bad for Barba. He tries to smash you from the get-go, and trying to escape him by scrambling over those little walls while he clubs at you was nerve-wracking enough that I never really felt bad about putting him down. Felt much more like a fight for life than a lot of the others did imho.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 19 2009 03:32 pm

I go out of my way to kill FFVI Cid. I hate that banana-wearing freak.

Posted: May 19 2009 06:23 pm

In my head comes Alex from Lunar: Silver Star Story and Jowy Atreides from Suikoden II.

The first can be killed, if I'm not mistaken, by doing something wrong while recovering Luna, AFTER killing the True Dark Emperor.
The late can be killed just in case you haven't done the right stuff (like reuniting all the 108 Stars of Destiny), leading to a last duel between the two in the very same place they split paths at the very beggining of the game.
Maybe you people can correct any mistake I've done so far.

EDIT: Remember that Shadow from FFVI can be killed if you don't wait for him on the Floating Island section? If you do that, I hope you burn in heck, seriously.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 19 2009 06:32 pm

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EDIT: Remember that Shadow from FFVI can be killed if you don't wait for him on the Floating Island section? If you do that, I hope you burn in heck, seriously.

Yes, he's hard to kill off. But it's the only way to get the Relm Dream.

Posted: May 19 2009 08:19 pm

In Golden Sun: The Lost Age, you get tricked into killing your parents. That upset me a lot.

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Slippy, when he attacks the Sector X Boss, you can't kill him fast enough.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: May 19 2009 08:55 pm

ReeperTheSeeker wrote:

Slippy, when he attacks the Sector X Boss, you can't kill him fast enough.

You're supposed to kill the BOSS quickly, not Slippy.