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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: May 17 2009 10:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't get it.

We have a few math freaks on this site, would one of you please explain this problem in layman's terms.

Thank you.



 
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Knyte
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PostPosted: May 17 2009 10:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

According to Wiki:

In essence, the question P = NP? asks: if 'yes'-answers to a 'yes'-or-'no'-question can be verified "quickly" (in polynomial time), can the answers themselves also be computed quickly?

This seems to be the best site I can find discussing the issue:
http://www.bletchleypark.net/algorithms/Time_Complexity_P_vs_NP.html

Also, there is apparently a $1 Million prize to the first person who can solve it.
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PostPosted: May 17 2009 11:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm more likely to win the lotto (even given the fact that I don't play) than I am to win a million by solving this. Hawk = math dunce is the closest to understanding any sort of math equation I will ever get.


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PostPosted: May 18 2009 12:02 am Reply with quote Back to top

Math was my worst subject in school so I have no idea on what the hell this even means or how to even go about trying to solve it.


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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: May 18 2009 02:03 am Reply with quote Back to top

IceWarm wrote:
Math was my worst subject in school so I have no idea on what the hell this even means or how to even go about trying to solve it.


No shit, I always assumed you had to have actual numbers to solve an equation. Confused


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PostPosted: May 18 2009 02:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

N = 1

What do I get?

Edit: I want mah million bucks!
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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: May 18 2009 09:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wrote:
In essence, the question P = NP? asks: if 'yes'-answers to a 'yes'-or-'no'-question can be verified "quickly" (in polynomial time), can the answers themselves also be computed quickly?


Knyte, I read that prior to posting this topic and I just reviewed your attached link. I still don't understand it. Why is this important? What will be done with it? And what exactly does it mean?



 
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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: May 18 2009 02:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
Knyte wrote:
In essence, the question P = NP? asks: if 'yes'-answers to a 'yes'-or-'no'-question can be verified "quickly" (in polynomial time), can the answers themselves also be computed quickly?


Knyte, I read that prior to posting this topic and I just reviewed your attached link. I still don't understand it. Why is this important? What will be done with it? And what exactly does it mean?


I think I can field this one.

1: Its not

2: Jerk-off fodder for people far, far nerdier even than us

3: That someone has way, WAY too much time on their hands.

Very Happy


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PostPosted: May 18 2009 03:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
GPFontaine wrote:
Knyte wrote:
In essence, the question P = NP? asks: if 'yes'-answers to a 'yes'-or-'no'-question can be verified "quickly" (in polynomial time), can the answers themselves also be computed quickly?


Knyte, I read that prior to posting this topic and I just reviewed your attached link. I still don't understand it. Why is this important? What will be done with it? And what exactly does it mean?


I think I can field this one.

1: Its not

2: Jerk-off fodder for people far, far nerdier even than us

3: That someone has way, WAY too much time on their hands.

Very Happy

If I had a capability and/or the time, I think a million dollars is worth it, especially if you love math and logic.


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SoldierHawk
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PostPosted: May 18 2009 03:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

^ of course. That's simply the bitter ranting of someone who loathes math lol. No seriousness intended.


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PostPosted: May 18 2009 03:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It stands for Problem? NO problem! and is supposed to bolster your confidence!*


*I base this on absolutely nothing.



 
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Knyte
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PostPosted: May 18 2009 04:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I simply turn on my SEP generator around this and move on.
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