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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 08:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

Guh? Unlike Pierce Brosnan, Daniel Craig is a Bond who actually looks like he could kick your ass. Casino Royale also did well cause it was a great movie, but Quantum of Solace looked completely uninteresing.


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 03:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I can see your POV Syd, as I certainly agree that Shatner and Nimoy own those roles, but I guess I'm just trying to relax so that I can enjoy new Trek. I've never watched Heroes (it's in my Netflix queue right now), and I've only seen Pegg in Shaun of the Dead, so the actors are mainly new to me anyway, so that probably helps. Besides, Quinto, Pegg, and the like are completely transformed and immersed in these roles, so i find it very difficult to see the actor beneath and be taken out of the movie by their presence. I've seen Quinto in some interviews and the like, and he looks very different in the Spock makeup.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 03:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I very much enjoyed the movie. I was never a fan of the original series, and to be honest, I don't like Shatner at all save for his amazing Start Trek Convention skit on SNL. I thought it was great that Uhuru actually has a personality now because I could have cared less about her in the original series. I enjoyed the movie for what it was: a reboot for a series that desperately needed it. It had compelling characters, a great story, good action, strong acting, and respectful nods toward the series/people that came before.

Giving the new Chekov an exaggerated accent was a funny and subtle dig at Kroenig's horrendous Russian accent in TOS. I dug the whole thing and even better, I didn't have to feel like an elitish douche about having to explain all of the dorky aspects of ST to the people I was with who didn't watch the show at all. It was just a great movie.


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 04:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I feel like I really ought to give this a second time chance a few months down the line and see what my impressions are of it then.

I really don't like Chris Pine though. It's not that he's a bad actor, because he isn't. But I feel like if we had went to high school together, we wouldn't have gotten along at all. He's a little too much of a pretty boy too. When you look at past captains - Shatner, Stewart, Avery Brooks, Bakula - none of them were ever in contention for being voted Sexiest Man Alive. Shater in his prime was not a bad looking guy by any means and his character slept with a whole lot of alien women, but he was no David Cassidy either. And honestly, that's part of the appeal of Trek. Picard was the best captain ever, because he validated the fanbase. He was balding, aging, average looks, but he was also brilliant, resolute, and courageous. He wasn't cool in any traditional sense of the word, but he was cool within nerd culture. But he still had some mainstream appeal too, because TNG was the most successful Trek TV series. Everyone in the Abrams movie is just a little too photogenic for my tastes.

You know, I was thinking. At the beginning of either Generation or First Contact, Picard finds out that his brother and young nephew died in a fire at their French vineyard. It was a very minor scene, but I think it also wreaks of missed potential. A series built around Picard's nephew could have worked. It would have taken place within a slightly futurized version of familiar universe and had opportunities for guest stars from TNG, but still would have given the writers enough distance from TNG to tell their own stories and build a new franchise in its own right.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 04:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Guh? Unlike Pierce Brosnan, Daniel Craig is a Bond who actually looks like he could kick your ass. Casino Royale also did well cause it was a great movie, but Quantum of Solace looked completely uninteresing.


I'm going to be a complete middle of the road flunkie here and say I actually enjoyed both of them as Bond very much. Brosnan was perfect for the suave, debonair "later" Bond, while I think Daniel Craig works exceedingly well as the young, brash, still-coming-into-his-own Bond.

Granted they look nothing alike really, but the casting still works for me in the movies they were put in.


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 05:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
[...] Everyone in the Abrams movie is just a little too photogenic for my tastes. [...]

That's one thing I hate about a lot of movies nowadays. Leads, unless defined strictly otherwise, are usually the "hot people" and it just pisses me off sometimes. Sure, a minor form of jealousy surges forth, but with some stories, it's easier to identify with someone who seems more like a normal, average person, regardless of the abnormalcy of the universe it may take place in.


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 06:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rycona wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
[...] Everyone in the Abrams movie is just a little too photogenic for my tastes. [...]

That's one thing I hate about a lot of movies nowadays. Leads, unless defined strictly otherwise, are usually the "hot people" and it just pisses me off sometimes. Sure, a minor form of jealousy surges forth, but with some stories, it's easier to identify with someone who seems more like a normal, average person, regardless of the abnormalcy of the universe it may take place in.

but that's a fault of all movies in general, you can't have clever successful people as the heroes because the audience feels intimidated


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 07:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

@ SoliderHawk: There is and forever shall be only one TRUE bond. And, if he was here right now, he would smack you in the mouth.

@ Rycona: Your right, movie movies should star Steve Buscemi and John Turturro.

@ Star Trek: I haven't seen it yet, because:

A. Haven't had the time .
B. A little scared to. I really want to enjoy the movie, but the hardcore Trekker in me might hate it.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 07:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ermac wrote:
but that's a fault of all movies in general, you can't have clever successful people as the heroes because the audience feels intimidated

Yeah, but there's a certain douchey handsome look that certain guys have that just really makes me want to punch them. Chris Pines is one of them. Paul Walker is another. And pretty much the entire male cast of The Covenant, whom I'm only familiar with from the shitty trailers.

And not all successful actors are necessarily good-looking. Look at Tom Hanks, Jack Nicholson, and Nicolas Cage. They're all fairly normal looking guys. And guys like Tom Cruise, Edward Norton, Ben Affleck, and Hugh Jackman are certainly significantly better looking than your average person, but none of them are so good looking as to inspire any sort of jealousy.

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@ SoliderHawk: There is and forever shall be only one TRUE Bond. And, if he was here right now, he would smack you in the mouth.

Brosnan, Moore, Connery, and even Dalton were all excellent.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 09:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Yeah, but there's a certain douchey handsome look that certain guys have that just really makes me want to punch them. Chris Pines is one of them. Paul Walker is another. And pretty much the entire male cast of The Covenant, whom I'm only familiar with from the shitty trailers.

And not all successful actors are necessarily good-looking. Look at Tom Hanks, Jack Nicholson, and Nicolas Cage. They're all fairly normal looking guys. And guys like Tom Cruise, Edward Norton, Ben Affleck, and Hugh Jackman are certainly significantly better looking than your average person, but none of them are so good looking as to inspire any sort of jealousy.


Then there are ones who are pretty boys you hate, and then learn to like, because it turns out, they know how to act. I hated Brad Pitt for years, until 12 Monkeys came out, and went, "Holy shit! He's acually pretty good." And, after such roles in Fight Club, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Snatch, Meet Joe Black, and Interview with the Vampire, he is now one of my favorite actors.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 09:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, it's hard to hate Brad Pitt.

DiCaprio has yet to impress me though.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 09:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Yeah, it's hard to hate Brad Pitt.

DiCraprio has yet to impress me though.

Fixed. Very Happy I've seen him in many movies and the only role I somewhat enjoyed was in The Departed.


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PostPosted: May 11 2009 09:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Yeah, it's hard to hate Brad Pitt.

DiCaprio has yet to impress me though.

Ditto.


I think I'm going to go see Star Trek a second time next week. Can't stop thinking about it.
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PostPosted: May 11 2009 09:49 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
Can't stop thinking about it.

Me either, probably won't see it again though since getting to the theater is a pain since I don't drive or have a car. The free buss system is nice but it takes way too long to get to and from the theater.


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PostPosted: May 12 2009 11:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:
Yeah, it's hard to hate Brad Pitt.

DiCaprio has yet to impress me though.

Ditto.


I think I'm going to go see Star Trek a second time next week. Can't stop thinking about it.

Love Pitt, still not a fan of Leo. I have, however, progressed beyond the 'I want to punch him in the face for Titanic' phase, which is actually quite an accomplishment.

I'm planning to go see Trek in Imax some time in the next week or two, if I can find it playing around here (and I'm assuming I can; the one advantage of living in a big city.)

Knyte, yes I love Connery too. He was an exceptional Bond. Probably the most quintessential embodiment of the part. But blasphemy or no, Brosnan will always be my favorite Bond, and Goldeneye will always be my favorite Bond movie.


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PostPosted: May 12 2009 12:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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I have, however, progressed beyond the 'I want to punch him in the face for Titanic' phase, which is actually quite an accomplishment.

Ditto. Still refuse to watch Titanic though.

It's just most of his stuff just doesn't interest me. I liked "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?", but that was primarily a Johnny Depp movie and DiCaprio was pretty much just furniture in it. I have been wanting to see Blood Diamond lately though. And he was good in The Departed, but I didn't like his character and was actively rooting for him to get killed.
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Syd Lexia wrote:
SoldierHawk wrote:
I have, however, progressed beyond the 'I want to punch him in the face for Titanic' phase, which is actually quite an accomplishment.

Ditto. Still refuse to watch Titanic though.

It's just most of his stuff just doesn't interest me. I liked "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?", but that was primarily a Johnny Depp movie and DiCaprio was pretty much just furniture in it. I have been wanting to see Blood Diamond lately though. And he was good in The Departed, but I didn't like his character and was actively rooting for him to get killed.

I'm in the same boat; I just don't care for a lot of what he does. Blood Diamond, though, is well worth seeing imho; it's the movie that really made me start respecting him as an actor. He does a great job (the whole cast does, really), and the story is quite compelling. (For the record, I haven't seen Titanic since I got dragged to see it in the theatre, and don't plan to anytime soon. Ugh.)


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Syd Lexia wrote:
Ditto. Still refuse to watch Titanic though.

I am the same way, my dad has the movie on DVD, yet I still refuse to see it. I just hated Leo for the longest time and still do to a certain degree.The Departed didn't really change that much.

I have never disliked Depp for some reason, its like he knows he is a good looking guy, but doesn't come off in an intimidating way and humble about it. Pitt's persona in movies just comes off as a guy trying to get laid(at least that is how I see it) so he doesn't piss me off either.

Chris Pine looks like he needs to be smacked around, i saw his smirk on SNL and you can tell his is just a pretty boy douche who has been given everything and is spoiled as shit.


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PostPosted: May 12 2009 01:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
SoldierHawk wrote:
I have, however, progressed beyond the 'I want to punch him in the face for Titanic' phase, which is actually quite an accomplishment.

Ditto. Still refuse to watch Titanic though.

Wait... you never saw it? That is incredible.



 
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PostPosted: May 12 2009 01:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why would I ever want to see Titanic? Maybe someday I'll see it as some grand gesture for a girl or something, but otherwise, not interested.
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I've never seen it either. I've been fortunate that none of my gfs have forced me to.
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Syd Lexia wrote:
Why would I ever want to see Titanic? Maybe someday I'll see it as some grand gesture for a girl or something, but otherwise, not interested.

QFT. That movie still looks 0% interesting, especially now that Winslet gets naked in every movie she's in.


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PostPosted: May 12 2009 03:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Part of me wants to go see it, the other part of me feels like it will take itself too seriously.

Star Trek has always been my favorite series. I've always loved the characters and the adventures that they have. Part of the Star Trek experience for me has always been that hint of akwardness and campiness that goes with each new adventure. The stories themselves were always entertaining and usually had a good amount of humor and morality thrown in without coming off as too preachy. Even the newer series had slightly campy feels to them. From the various trailers it seems like this new movie suffers from that new-age problem where they make everything needlessly over the top and dramatic. Then again I haven't watched the movie and I might be wrong. However the initial presentation makes it look like every other action flick out there. Part of the charm of Star Trek to me was the approach of the Captains. Usually they'd try their best to negotiate before trouble occurred. At worst you'd usually get some phaser-fire and a few photon torpedoes and then BOOM! the episode would be over and things would return to normal.


I really don't know what I'm getting at, however it just seems like this movie is going to take itself too seriously and end up feeling like a poor imitation of an otherwise fun and endearing series. I might be wrong though...


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PostPosted: May 12 2009 07:44 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Leo: I like him in The Aviator... That's about it.

Titanic: Thank god, "The Notebook", has seem to have taken Titanic's place as THE #1 romantic favorite amongst most females. (It's a much better movie.)

Star Trek: I hate to say this, but I may wait to rent this, or maybe even grab a DVD Screener RIP when it appears.

@ Hawk: Yes, I'll admit Bronson is my 2nd favorite Bond. And, Goldeneye was the Best Bond film in decades.
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