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SoldierHawk
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I wonder what the worst creepy-crawly we have here in the states is. Middle East has their Camel Spiders. Africa, Australia and South America have all KINDS of weird shit I wouldn't want in my house, Europe...well I guess Europe doesn't have it too bad either.
For us I guess the deadliest would be one of the kind of snakes--rattler or cottonmouth or whatever (not sure which of the four kinds is worst), but unless you have a fear of snakes or something, they aren't really all that gross or scary. I don't think our scorpions even get very big. I'm sure I'm forgetting something hugely obvious, but....
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Neutral-Bob
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Their probably is something, but I can't think of it right now. When I hear people talk about stuff like this it gets me thinking about all of the undiscovered species of animals out there. It's kind of creepy when you think about it. No one knows for sure what's really out there.
I used to have nightmares where I was floating into the dark zone in the ocean and at the bottom where fishes so extremely messed-up that I'd wake up with my heart racing.
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SoldierHawk
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Their probably is something, but I can't think of it right now. When I hear people talk about stuff like this it gets me thinking about all of the undiscovered species of animals out there. It's kind of creepy when you think about it. No one knows for sure what's really out there.
I used to have nightmares where I was floating into the dark zone in the ocean and at the bottom where fishes so extremely messed-up that I'd wake up with my heart racing. |
Yee gads, that sounds almost Lovecraftian *shudder*. Although really, given the fucked-up looking fish pics I HAVE seen from the dark zone, maybe you aren't so far off. THAT is freaking creepy.
I don't know that not knowing what's out there is so creepy though. I mean, I guess it is, but honestly its more exciting to me than anything. I love the fact that there's still more things out there to discover in my lifetime. My biggest wish right now is to live long enough to see that probe land on Europa, and find out what the hell is in THAT ocean. With all the weird stuff we have down here, I can't even imagine what might be out there.
Oh, and about the sea spider: I did a little research, but the only pics I could find of things called "sea spiders" were pretty small, and kinda fuzzy, nothing like in the picture.
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Neutral-Bob
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That does sound interesting.
I've heard alot about Lovecraft's works, but I've never gotten a chance to get into them. Did he write novels or short stories? Could you reccomend a few that interest you?
I find it interesting and creepy at the same time. The oddities that Mother Nature has produced leaves a lot of possibilities as to what may be lurking out there. When I was a kid I used to have a reoccuring nightmare about this large lanky beast that had these large, glaring eyes. I used to believe that it was the only one of the kind and it wanted me dead for some reason. I had nightmares like that until I was twelve. Wow, I have problems....
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I'd like to point out that so called camel spiders are actually a relative of the scorpion and not technically spiders.
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Also I'm appalled at everyone's bug intolerance around here. For shame you guys, if it does not pose a threat to you or attack you leave it alone.  |
A bee stung me on the tongue once so that's my reason.
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And opti, its not deceptive. Camel spiders a frigging huge.
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That sirs and madame, is not a camel spider, that is a sea spider which is not really a true spider at all and is so puny and weak and native to such depths, that you never need fear one. And camel spiders have a bad and undeserved reputation; they're not poisonous, they do not chase people across the desert and they are not vicious little killing machines. They are also not nearly as big as that picture makes them look (note how there is no real point of reference for a size comparison), the largest species have a legspan of about five inches. |
Oh. Trantulas are still creepy looking, can I be afraid of them? What about black widows?
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SoldierHawk
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That does sound interesting.
I've heard alot about Lovecraft's works, but I've never gotten a chance to get into them. Did he write novels or short stories? Could you reccomend a few that interest you? |
He did both, actually. Most famous (and probably best, although its debatable) are "Call of Cthulu" (there are things in there that really WILL haunt your dreams), and "At the Mountains of Madness." Both good starting points, although Cthulu is probably the most famous.
Like I said, while I don't advocate killing things out of hand, Thorinair, if it can seriously hurt you, you are more than allowed to be afraid of it. So leave the tarantulas alone unless they're in your house, but kill those widows. I know too many people who have lost pets to those things crawling in from the garden or garage.
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Black Zarak
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Oh, and about the sea spider: I did a little research, but the only pics I could find of things called "sea spiders" were pretty small, and kinda fuzzy, nothing like in the picture.  |
Trust me, I know what I'm talking about when it comes to insects/arachnids/arthropods, that's a sea spider.
Especially since if you read the site that picture is from, it's taken from a oceanographic expedition and the girl even says it's a sea spider.
http://www.rvgould.uconn.edu/week2.htm
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That does sound interesting.
I've heard alot about Lovecraft's works, but I've never gotten a chance to get into them. Did he write novels or short stories? Could you reccomend a few that interest you? |
He did both, actually. Most famous (and probably best, although its debatable) are "Call of Cthulu" (there are things in there that really WILL haunt your dreams), and "At the Mountains of Madness." Both good starting points, although Cthulu is probably the most famous.
Like I said, while I don't advocate killing things out of hand, Thorinair, if it can seriously hurt you, you are more than allowed to be afraid of it. So leave the tarantulas alone unless they're in your house, but kill those widows. I know too many people who have lost pets to those things crawling in from the garden or garage. |
You kill black widows. The toxin is dangerous and like soldierhawk said, they are bad for your pets.
Tarantulas are ugly but so unaggressive(in american deserts at least) that you can let them crawl on you with no ill effect. That goes double for vinegarroons (stinky giant black scorpions with no stinger but a stanky vinegar smell). Utterly and completely harmless and they eat crickets and cockroaches. I've never had a tarantula enter my house, and Vinegarroons are the only insect I will actively protect, though it helps that killing them leaves a skunky smell that wont go away.
Camel spiders (we call em "Mother of earths" around these parts) are not dangerous but have an appearance that taps deep into the lizard brain of humanity, triggering that part of the brain that recoils from the crawling things of nature. So they're inexplicably and powerfully creepy. I had one on the wall of my house and smashed it. Its abdomen was tough and rubbery, not hard like many insects, and when I crushed it it squirted out a tar like substance like a devil zit, of which a small amount hit my face.
I freaked the holy fuck out, and couldn't calm down for 15 minutes.
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You know what i hate? During the summer my place is infested with huge, nasty cricket things that like to drop their little legs everywhere. You can sit down and find the legs of a cricket, just laying there, not attached to a cricket. You can't kill them either, cause they burst open and spray shit everywhere that permanently stains everything it touches.
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I'm going to have to look into his works then. Mountain of Madness sounds like a good start.
I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one who deals with those monstrosities. They're usually pretty big, however sometimes we get some that are even bigger and have red spots on them. Those are the ones that freak me out the most. They're really aggressive around here and sometimes have little antennae-like things attached to their limbs. *shudder* Not the kind of bug I like. I certainly don't go out of my way to hurt bugs though. I leave bugs alone as long as they leave me alone. Black Widows are the exception. They die, always.
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I should probably be weighing in on the Lovecraft aspect of this too since I'm a big fan.
You should definitely read Call of Cthulhu and At the Mountains of Madness, but I would also recommend Dagon, The Music of Erich Zann , The Rats in the Walls , The Dreams in the Witch House, Pickman's Model, The color Out of Space, The Horror at Redhook, The Dunwich Horror, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Shadow Out of Time, The Hound, I could go on and on but those are all good. Most of his best stuff you can find collected in any number of books so you can actually pick and choose to a degree but most everything he wrote himself is good (if a little...abstract in the really weird bits.) There's also a fairly good collection of stories written in the mythos by more modern writers, including a decent Stephen King story.
And after you get a feeling for Lovecraft and his mythos, I would also highly recommend Alhazred by Donald Tyson.
You should however avoid August Derleth like the plague.
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SoldierHawk
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I should probably be weighing in on the Lovecraft aspect of this too since I'm a big fan.
You should definitely read Call of Cthulhu and At the Mountains of Madness, but I would also recommend Dagon, The Music of Erich Zann , The Rats in the Walls , The Dreams in the Witch House, Pickman's Model, The color Out of Space, The Horror at Redhook, The Dunwich Horror, The Case of Charles Dexter Ward, The Shadow Over Innsmouth, The Shadow Out of Time, The Hound, I could go on and on but those are all good. Most of his best stuff you can find collected in any number of books so you can actually pick and choose to a degree but most everything he wrote himself is good (if a little...abstract in the really weird bits.) There's also a fairly good collection of stories written in the mythos by more modern writers, including a decent Stephen King story.
And after you get a feeling for Lovecraft and his mythos, I would also highly recommend Alhazred by Donald Tyson.
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God, I totally forgot Rats in the Wall. And color of Outer Space is one of my favorites. Awesome calls.
As for the sea spider Thorinair, I wasn't trying to question you at all; I know next to nothing about spiders. I just noticed in a small perusal of the wiki article on sea spiders it said they were all small, that's all.
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I'm definitely going to look into it. Thanks you two, I appreciate it. When I was in highschool I read about H. P. Lovecraft and thought his works sounded interesting. I can't wait to look into it.
I may dislike spiders and crickets, but the one bug I can't stand is fleas. Fleas are the scourge of humanity and I have no compassion for them. I've had more than one bad experience with those little buggers thanks largely in part to local cats laying up against the back door.  Luckily that time is now long gone.
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SoldierHawk
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Nbob, I'll see your fleas and raise you a tick. Those fuckers EMBED themselves. Fuck that.
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True, however a tick is noticeable after it has drank it's fill. It's easy to catch a tick once it's the size of a quarter.
Fleas have the metabolism of a shrew x 1000. They can bite you and be hungry in a few minutes. Not only that, but their bites hurt like hell when you get in the shower.
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I'll see your fleas and ticks and raise you bot flies, those are the ones who lay eggs on your skin and then the larvae hatch and burrow into your flesh; sticking in place with long, barbed spines and munching away on your flesh until they push their way out and drop to the ground to pupate.
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Okay, I concede to botflies. That's like something out of "The Mist" lol. I was vaguely aware of them before, but not that kind of detail.
Still, I fucking hate ticks and their Lyme disease
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You win, botflies are in a league of their own. I still hate fleas though. A tick may embed itself, but a flea has the libido of a rabbit on viagra and they can easily fill a house within a day or two. I'd like to see a tick do that. No wait...I wouldn't.
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That Giant Weta bug looks like Cell from DBZ
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