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Obama on Leno this Thursday


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Ghandi
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 12:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 12:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
joshwoodzell wrote:
Was anyone actually offended by Obama's "Special Olympics" remark?

I wasn't offended, but the president isn't supposed to say shit like that.

Same here. There isn't a big enough facepalm for that moment.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 12:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Eh, I don't really care. Besides, it was heavily rumored that Obama was going to demolish the White House bowling alley in favor of an indoor basketball court. Glad to see that didn't happen.
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 02:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It may have been a stupid & insulting thing to say, but it's easily forgettable.

Didn't know about the bowling alley/b-ball court thing. Interesting.
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 07:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think it's funny that no one cares that Obama said this, but if Bush, Rush, or any other Republican said it then the entire nation would be up in arms.


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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 07:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Eh, I don't really care. Besides, it was heavily rumored that Obama was going to demolish the White House bowling alley in favor of an indoor basketball court. Glad to see that didn't happen.

Heh, talk about stereotyping...


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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 07:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
I think it's funny that no one cares that Obama said this, but if Bush, Rush, or any other Republican said it then the entire nation would be up in arms.


How long is this argument going to be made?

It isn't a democrat vs republican thing here. Obama gets away with a lot of shit because he is not affiliated in any way with the Bush administration. Bush had a horrible run in the presidential office. It may have been his fault, it might not be, but we had 8 shitty years and he didn't talk his way out of the blame. For the next year or so, anything will probably seem better than the past 8. After that though... I don't think there will be as much leeway.



 
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 08:02 pm Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
It may have been his fault, it might not be, but we had 8 shitty years and he didn't talk his way out of the blame. For the next year or so, anything will probably seem better than the past 8. After that though... I don't think there will be as much leeway.

We had one shitty year, the one right before the election. If gas prices hadn't shot up for a while there if and the banks hadn't failed, most people wouldn't have been all that unhappy with Bush, except for the entire city of New Orleans.
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 08:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
I think it's funny that no one cares that Obama said this, but if Bush, Rush, or any other Republican said it then the entire nation would be up in arms.


No one would criticize Bush, for the same reason no one calls a black person racist when he uses the N word Razz .

Seriously though, I don't think no one cares. Some people are seriously criticizing it, some people are defending him. *shrug* Pretty much the same as always.

I will give Obama props for one thing in the whole fuck up: he apologized to the coordinator of the Special Olympics before the Leno show even aired. While it doesn't make up for not watching his mouth, at least it shows he's thinking about the impact his words have. After the fact now, but hopefully it will be a lesson learned.


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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 08:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

As I said before, I don't care. Was it mildly offensive? Yeah, I guess. But I didn't care when Arnold called the California legislature "economic girlie men" and I don't care about this. It's a petty thing to go after him for. It was a joke. And if a joke doesn't offend at least one person, then it's not a very good joke.
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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 08:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah the joke was a bit insensitive but he was joking around and it wasn't malicious in nature. I'm sure most of us have said something to that extent in past. And if it were a republican i think it would be the same situation, blah blah blha outrage,public apology..the end.


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PostPosted: Mar 20 2009 11:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Obama has a problem. He never spent the time in politics needed to make the connections that are oh so necessary to getting anything important accomplished. So congress is filled with hardline republicans who will never help him on matter of principle, hardline liberals who think he spends too much time courting moderate republicans and not enough time running roughshod over the enemies, and moderate republicans whom he desperately tries to please in all the ways but the important ones(some moral caveats in the embryonic stem cell research bill would have done wonders for example). What is he to do?

Turn up the Obama charm machine and rally the popular support of the nation, kinda like he's been doing since before he was president. Your not getting that with youth supporter oriented youtube videos, and fireside chats would be expensive, people would avoid them, and they woulld resent their favorite shows being pre-empted by him(as Syd noted). A far better choice would be Leno; it gets good ratings, Leno is neither hostile or inclined to ask any real biting questions, and people will actively tune in just to see the president. Same thing with the basketball brackets. It didn't take long, and Obama genuinely likes basketball so it doesn't come off as a fake appeal to the common man(unlike the democratic bar escapades). If his plans and proposals work, and he believes they are, then he only needs to really succeed in the short term. "The man who saved the economy" would then be all he needs to get anything else he wants done done.

Jeebus, so you think he should be drawn and quartered over it, or are you bitter about the treatment of the poor downtrodden republicans? Here's an equally nuanced response to your post; Life isn't fair.


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