Alright, some of you may or may no have seen this brilliant short film before. I saw it for the first time in high school, and have loved it since. Its only a little over seven minutes long, and well worth your time. Given the way everyone's been a bit on edge and shifty with each other on the forum lately, I thought it might be particularly apt to post it now.
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Slayer1
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Posted:
Mar 06 2009 02:10 am
Very VERY Creepy! o.O
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Mar 06 2009 02:14 am
Hahaha well, its not creepy once you get used to the animation style and premise.
That was very cool, and so very german. Although it seems to me that the solution was to get the box into the very middle, where everyone could enjoy it. Maybe that was part of the point, a good tragedy punishes a conciously made moral transgression.
Nifty.
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Mar 06 2009 11:21 am
RobotGumshoe wrote:
That was very cool, and so very german. Although it seems to me that the solution was to get the box into the very middle, where everyone could enjoy it. Maybe that was part of the point, a good tragedy punishes a conciously made moral transgression.
Nifty.
Bingo, imho. We discussed this at length in my freshman geography class (my teacher ruled lol), and that was the exact conclusion we came to. Had they gotten it in the middle, they all could have had it. And technically speaking, I guess 72 could have it even alone, if he moved both himself and the box to the middle. But I think the point of that final shot is that even if he does have it, he's alone, and can't enjoy it or be free to move around again. Good stuff.
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Slayer1
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Mar 06 2009 11:55 am
German film and surrealism all balled up into one! I find that much of the german films do try to give a moral reason behind them, not like our american films which results in explosions, sex and most of the time a sappy ending. That's why I like some German films better. In any case this still creeped me out last night, now that I watch that it's a little more enjoyable!
Tyop
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Mar 06 2009 12:30 pm
Slayer1 wrote:
I find that much of the german films do try to give a moral reason behind them, not like our american films which results in explosions, sex and most of the time a sappy ending.
The biggest difference between American and German cinema is money. If there are fewer explosions in German movies, it's because those things are expensive, not because every movie wants to be a morality tale. The only reason why people tend to think that is because they don't get to see all the dreck that gets produced here.
Besides this is a short film. Hardly representative of an entire film industry.
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Mar 06 2009 12:41 pm
If there was a Tool song playing in the background this could pass as one of their videos. That was definitely an enjoyable piece. It is such basic, surreal animation that it sets the tone before the focus of the film is even realized. It contains quite a deep lesson too for such a seemingly simple story.
I find that much of the german films do try to give a moral reason behind them, not like our american films which results in explosions, sex and most of the time a sappy ending.
The biggest difference between American and German cinema is money. If there are fewer explosions in German movies, it's because those things are expensive, not because every movie wants to be a morality tale. The only reason why people tend to think that is because they don't get to see all the dreck that gets produced here.
Besides this is a short film. Hardly representative of an entire film industry.
Not from what I've read in film classes. Sure money can be an issue but according to a few textbooks and internet sources, Germans can recieve government money to make these films. As such, much films are governement investments.
Now, I'm saying much of the films I've seen from Germany (M, Run Lola Run, and Emile and the Detectives to name a few) contain a moral lesson in some sense or another. I might have implied that I think all German films have a moral lesson, but I meant a majority of German films do... But if you look at Uwe Boll, you might as well just say that they should just stop...
Hear that Dr. Boll.... STOP MAKING FUCKING MOVIES!
Tyop
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Mar 06 2009 03:34 pm
Slayer1 wrote:
Not from what I've read in film classes. Sure money can be an issue but according to a few textbooks and internet sources, Germans can recieve government money to make these films. As such, much films are governement investments.
True, but if you look at the genres of the films that actually get made with such money you will see that things like science-fiction, fantasy, horror and action movies are notably absent. Those are all genres that are special-effects-heavy and therefore expensive. It's not that they couldn't possibly make movies in those genres with the money they have (Roland Emmerich for example did), it's that the money they have wouldn't possibly be enough to compete with the big-budget Hollywood movies. So those movies don't get made.
Slayer1 wrote:
Now, I'm saying much of the films I've seen from Germany (M, Run Lola Run, and Emile and the Detectives to name a few) contain a moral lesson in some sense or another. I might have implied that I think all German films have a moral lesson, but I meant a majority of German films do
That's because the movies you've seen are those that stand out in terms of cinematic and narrative quality. For those your assessment might be correct. But they're not really representative of the German cinema as a whole. You've probably never seen the sappy and simplistic Heimatfilms of the '50s, the cheap Euro-sexploitation movies of the '70s, or the flood of clichéd relationship comedies of the '90s. The vast majority of German films have no moral lesson. Like American movies they're supposed to entertain - and make money.
I find that much of the german films do try to give a moral reason behind them, not like our american films which results in explosions, sex and most of the time a sappy ending. That's why I like some German films better. In any case this still creeped me out last night, now that I watch that it's a little more enjoyable! 
