The Long Count to the End
The Mayans have a complex system of calendars, and each calendar has a different purpose. There are thought to be 20 calendars in use, though only 15 have been revealed to the public. The Mayans keep the other five a secret within their culture. Some of the more commonly known Mayan calendars are:
The Tzolk'in Calendar - Used primarily in crop rotation, this calendar allows one 260-day period to ready the land and one 260-day period to grow and harvest the corn.
The Haab Calendar - This calendar lasts 360 days, with a 5-day period called the wayeb. Close to the Gregorian calendar we use today, this calendar follows the cycle of the sun.
The Calendar Round - The Calendar Round gave the Mayans a way to record history in longer increments. It's a combination of the Tzolk'in and Haab calendars and goes through about 52 years.
Fifty-two years was longer than the Mayans' average life span at the time of the Calendar Round's creation. However, Mayan historians wanted to create a calendar that could be used to record history for centuries. This led to the Long Count calendar. The Long Count incorporates an era called the Great Cycle, which lasts approximately 5,125.36 years [source: Jenkins]. The idea that the world is on its way to an end comes from the Long Count.
Sometime during the Spanish Inquisition, the Mayans stopped using the Long Count -- at least as far as the Spanish were concerned. A Mayan historian began recording events on both the Long Count and Gregorian calendars. Scholars then compared the dates on both calendars and confirmed the beginning of the current Great Cycle as August 13, 3114 B.C., making the end of the fourth Great Cycle -- you guessed it -- December 21, 2012. Theorists believe this is the day that the world will end, and all living things on Earth will die.
The end of the world may resemble another ice age.
However, the Mayans themselves don't actually believe that the world is going to end at the end of this cycle. In fact, they believe that it's a time of great celebration and luck when the planet lasts through a full Great Cycle. After all, we've made it safely through three other Great Cycles, and the world is still turning.
What makes this cycle so different, some believe, is that it ends on a winter solstice. On this particular winter solstice, the sun will align with the center of the Milky Way. This particular event happens only every 26,000 years or so [source: USA Today]. But is this celestial occurrence really going to end the world and kill us all? Probably not. Many scholars see this theory as extremists trying to cash in on the fears of others [source: USA Today].
So what will happen on Dec. 21, 2012? It's likely that the day will pass with no major event happening at all. People may not even realize it's the projected doomsday, although that's unlikely considering how much press it's likely to garner. We'll just have to wait and see what happens -- and hopefully update this article on Dec. 22, 2012.
The Mayans are just one source that points to the 2012 date. Cayce did it I think, Nostradamus, according to recent interpretations, and some other moden prophets and older ones.
Basically, they agree something will happen, even if they don't know what.
The worst thing that's going to happen regarding 2012 is the Roland Emmerich movie.
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Feb 17 2009 07:05 pm
I don't really give a shit what happens after Lost ends in 2010.
I got this from wikipedia. Take it as you will but sources were cited.
"Moreover, since the nucleus of the Milky Way cannot be identified without high-powered telescopes, the Mayans could not have been aware of its location. The alignment in question takes place over a 36-year period, corresponding to the diameter of the sun, with the most precise convergence having already occurred without incident in 1998."
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Feb 17 2009 08:20 pm
The world better not end in 2012, I have albums planned until 2017.
And a friend of mine was talking to me about all the 2012 stuff and how she was worried and I was like 'why? If the world ends, are we really going to care? We may care now, but it's hard to worry about the world being over when you're dead.'
The world better not end in 2012, I have albums planned until 2017.
And a friend of mine was talking to me about all the 2012 stuff and how she was worried and I was like 'why? If the world ends, are we really going to care? We may care now, but it's hard to worry about the world being over when you're dead.'
Yeah, but that is only if we die a quick death. If we all are sufforing and know we are dying, it's gonna suck. That said, I think it's all a crock of shit, so I'm not too worried.
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Feb 17 2009 08:32 pm
I heard a planet will come 93 million miles close to the earth
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Feb 17 2009 08:49 pm
As long as it isn't The Great Green Arkleseizure, I don't care.
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Feb 17 2009 08:54 pm
hacker wrote:
I heard a planet will come 93 million miles close to the earth
Nibiru? That is the biggest crock of shit. Basically, this guy, Zecharia Sitchin, translated some ancient Sumerian text that talks about how the planets Nibiru and Tiamat collided. Tiamat was destroyed and created the asteroid belt and our moon..
Now, these UFO assholes have discovered the location of Nibiru and claim it is either on a collision course with Earth, or that it will come close enough to throw us out of orbit.
I have actually read where Sumerian experts disagree with Sitchin. On top of that, these UFO groups, like ZetaTalk are pretty much basing everything on Sitchin's claim. Well, if all of these experts in Sumerian text are saying that Sitchin is full of shit, it kind of fucks up the whole "Nibiru is coming" theory.
Now some people believe Planet X is coming. But for the most part, people are using this Nibiru theory, solely based on the claim of one man's "retranslation".
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Feb 17 2009 08:56 pm
If it doesn't orbit anything, then it's not really a planet is it? Wouldn't it just be considered a giant fucking astroid or comet?
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Feb 17 2009 09:09 pm
Knyte wrote:
If it doesn't orbit anything, then it's not really a planet is it? Wouldn't it just be considered a giant fucking astroid or comet?
Well, allegedly it has an elliptic orbit around the sun with an orbital period of around 3,750 Earth years.
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Feb 17 2009 09:28 pm
There are only two ways in my opinion how the world will end.
1. Nuclear War
2. The Sun expands and eats Earth alive.
There was a third option, but Cthulhu didn't emerge from the Large Hadron Collider. So we're safe from that....maybe...
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Feb 17 2009 09:39 pm
Okay, you guys need to watch this shit. It doesn't go along with any of the shit I've read about Nibiru. It is completely different. I don't know what this guy's sources are. I don't know if he came up with this shit on his own or what. At first I thought it was a joke, but I think he is serious. I was under the impression that all of the members of Heaven's Gate died in the mass suicide, but evidently someone didn't drink enough of the Kool Aid. He appears to believe Unicron is based on an actual real thing.
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Feb 17 2009 10:05 pm
Ba‘al wrote:
There are only two ways in my opinion how the world will end.
1. Nuclear War
2. The Sun expands and eats Earth alive.
There was a third option, but Cthulhu didn't emerge from the Large Hadron Collider. So we're safe from that....maybe...
The hadron collider was activated? When?
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Feb 17 2009 10:08 pm
Humanity will never end!
i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:
DarknessDeku is already assimilated by the bots.
He knows your algorithm.
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Feb 17 2009 10:19 pm
So we're all going to be murdered by Tokio Hotel's shitty-music-with-potential-of-being-really-awesome-gothic-cock-rock? And also, sure it'll suck slowly dying, but who gives a fuck? Won't matter after.
Well, since people have been actively predicting the end of the world since...well, pretty much as far back as documentation goes, I won't sweat this too much. After all, if its not true, we'd be getting all worked up for nothing. If it is true, we probably won't be around to know about it.
I have heard, on the other end of the weirdness spectrum, that its not supposed to be the end of the world, as in the end of life--just the end of the status quo as we know it; that there will be some huge shift in the way we perceive and understand and deal with each other. (Some even go so far as to claim there will be some kind of mass enlightenment.) I wouldn't go that far of course, but given how fast things have been changing, and how quickly old ideas are getting knocked down and proven inadequate...who knows. *shrug*
I like that idea better than mass extinction, at the very least lol.
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Feb 17 2009 10:57 pm
I'm an athiest to the mayan faith and astrology as much an anything else. Pointless.
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Feb 17 2009 11:59 pm
I'm kinda of the opinion that Armageddon may be metaphorical, might be personal and that the "world ends" when you die.
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Feb 18 2009 12:05 am
Well one thing's for sure. Once our sun dies out, we're done for.
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Feb 18 2009 12:27 am
scamrock wrote:
Well one thing's for sure. Once our sun dies out, we're done for.
Well, Earth is done for, yeah. But that's not gonna happen for a couple billion years. I would wager good money that the human race will either have spread beyond the solar system at that point, or already self-destructed.
Man. Sometimes I wish I was immortal just to see how the rest of history plays out. Dying after 70, 80, even a hundred years feels like leaving before the end of a play you already walked in during the middle of. *sigh* I wanna know what happens next, dammit.
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Feb 18 2009 12:40 am
SoldierHawk wrote:
Man. Sometimes I wish I was immortal just to see how the rest of history plays out. Dying after 70, 80, even a hundred years feels like leaving before the end of a play you already walked in during the middle of. *sigh* I wanna know what happens next, dammit.
I agree. But kind of like my question I asked in the ghost thread, if you are immortal, and the world ends (destroyed) what would happen to you? Also, if life on Earth was wiped out before then, it would be very lonely.
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Feb 18 2009 12:44 am
The world will end when fart jokes aren't funny anymore.