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Racism on Xbox Live?


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scamrock
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 08:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

On Xbox live, I made my avatar look like Steve Urkel. When people see it, they might not know for sure that is who it is, but since most people aren't going to depict themselves wearing suspenders and nerd glasses and skinny as a rail, I thought it was kind of obvious.

Anyways, I was playing Uno with a friend from my hometown. Some guy (teenager?) comes in the game. He asks me if I'm black. I said no. He asked me why my character was black. I just told him I was half black (I'm not really) just so he would stop asking questions. If he couldn't tell it was supposed to be Urkel, I wasn't going to tell him. So then he asks if I'm a zebra. Now I'm starting to get what's going on here. I just said sure whatever because I thought maybe he was kidding around. That is when he says this to me word for word.

"Sorry. I can't play with black people."

What the fuck? I'm not black, but I immediately became offended. Before I could say anything back to him, he abruptly exits. I'm pissed. I can understand (not really cause its still bullshit) if maybe he had some racist bastards for parents and if they caught him playing with a black person he would get the shit beat out of him or whatever. But for some punk ass kid to call me a zebra and say he can't play with black people, that's horseshit. He sounded like a scrawny punk and I'm guessing he wouldn't say that to anybody's face.

I guess I shouldn't be that surprised. I see racism all over the internet. But I had never experienced anything like that on a game server before. Has anyone else experienced or seen this kind of shit?


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Ba'al
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 09:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Over the internet you're much more anonymous than meeting someone in real life, so naturally people will be more "brave" when they know they have no chance to get their ass handed to them. I've experience racism on Xbox Live before when I used to be on, but was mostly the n-word getting thrown around alot. Which pisses me off because not only is it racist, but it's also ****ing annoying.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 09:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I thought most of it was people just trying to psych people out, but in this case, he refused to even play with you, so that theory isn't foolproof.

I see the occasional racial slur on online poker, especially because you can make black or asian avatars. It can be a problem.
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scamrock
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 09:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Racial slurs don't generally bother me. But I guess that's easy for me to say, I don't usually have people taking shots at me for being white. But depending on the context, I could care less. I know people talk like that and it's not going away. I've seen a few rednecks get their asses kicked for droping the N word. I also see a lot of racism on chat rooms and message boards. But it's usually some troll trying to piss everyone off. But even then, you can't usually tell if it is someone who is really racist or just some prick looking for some negative attention. But I have rarely seen that kind of racism where someone does something like ouright refuses to play an online game with someone. Chat rooms.

My favorite part was this guy said he was sorry. "Sorry, but I don't play with black people." It's like he was saying, "I'd like to appologize because I hate the color of your skin." or "I hate you for no real reason but don't take it personally." He didn't even drop the N word. It's like he was trying to courtious about being a racist. Where do these people come form?


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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 10:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

There is an absolute ton of racism over Xbox Live in Call of Duty.

Don't start assumptions withe the "he sounded scrawny and probably wouldn't say it to his face". Based on his voice and the fact he doesn't like blacks you assume he is a pussy, just like he assumed you were black because of an Urkel avatar.

I'm not trying to defend the guy because he's clearly one of the as of yet unevolved folks from the south(amazing he can play Xbox as he likely has yet to develop an apposable thumb) but you can't assume he's a pussy from hearing his voice. You can tell what type of person he is based on the facts you have, but it doesn't determine everything. He probably would say it to a black guys face while surounded by his arian brothers.


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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's what you get for playing fucking UNO on Xbox Live. Megaman


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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scamrock
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

anorexorcist wrote:
There is an absolute ton of racism over Xbox Live in Call of Duty.

Don't start assumptions withe the "he sounded scrawny and probably wouldn't say it to his face". Based on his voice and the fact he doesn't like blacks you assume he is a pussy, just like he assumed you were black because of an Urkel avatar.

I'm not trying to defend the guy because he's clearly one of the as of yet unevolved folks from the south(amazing he can play Xbox as he likely has yet to develop an apposable thumb) but you can't assume he's a pussy from hearing his voice. You can tell what type of person he is based on the facts you have, but it doesn't determine everything. He probably would say it to a black guys face while surounded by his arian brothers.


I suppose he could be a badass. But he didn't sound very old and didn't sound very big. I know you can't always determine that from someones voice, but most people I've come across with a voice like that were either smaller, younger, or both. I'm not saying neither young people nor smaller people can't be badasses. But I haven't met very many I would think twice about punching in the jaw if I thought I had a good reason. I'm not trying to sound like an internet badass, but I can hold my own. Also, by the tone in his voice and the fact that he was appologitic in telling me he was a racist would seem to indicate he isn't very confrontational.

Also, he didn't sound like he was from the south. I'm from Missouri and even people from around here have more of a southern accent than this guy did. I would guess he was from someplace with very few minorities. I would think refusing to interact with black people is something that would be nearly impossible in places where they make up a sizable percent of the population.


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scamrock
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
That's what you get for playing fucking UNO on Xbox Live. Megaman

I thought everyone liked Uno.


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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, the internet's full of stupid douchebags who think Mencia's the height of comedy, and scream racial slur's cause it's "edgy." I don't even go on Live anymore without some Lou Dobbs zombie-slave yelling "MOW MY LAWN BEANER." It's typically early-teen sounding d-bags, which hopefully helps my plan to have two Xbox Lives: one normal one for everybody, and one that requires a driver's license.


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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:28 pm Reply with quote Back to top

scamrock wrote:
JRA wrote:
That's what you get for playing fucking UNO on Xbox Live. Megaman

I thought everyone liked Uno.


I like it, but why the fuck would you play it on a video game system?


There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant.
 
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scamrock
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PostPosted: Feb 10 2009 11:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

JRA wrote:
scamrock wrote:
JRA wrote:
That's what you get for playing fucking UNO on Xbox Live. Megaman

I thought everyone liked Uno.


I like it, but why the fuck would you play it on a video game system?

Because its something I can play with my friends from back home that is cheap and we all like. Even my friends that are girls like it.

Also, I can't play co-op or do teams online. I have a two year old. I could elaborate, but instead I'll just say if you ever have a two year old, you'll understand what this means. It's much easier to play a game like Uno with a two year old around than having some asshole cuss you because you had to put the controller down in the middle of a battle to take care of your kid.


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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 12:38 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not at all a fan of racism, or racist comments. There's so much of it out there nowadays I try to pick my battles, but if someone says something blatantly ignorant I call them out on it. I do understand the "meh" attitude, but its not one I share.

I have heard that XBL is particularly bad, though. Adam Sessler (of X-Play) did an entire "Sessler's Soapbox" podcast on this very issue a few months ago.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 12:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

SoldierHawk wrote:
I'm not at all a fan of racism, or racist comments.

SoldierHawk: She takes bold, unpopular stands against racism. Razz
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 12:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Cattivo wrote:
SoldierHawk wrote:
I'm not at all a fan of racism, or racist comments.

SoldierHawk: She takes bold, unpopular stands against racism. Razz


Fuckin' A. And I make NO APOLOGY for it, either. Cool


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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 01:14 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well you guys are crazy I love me some racism and if you don't then you are a
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 02:10 am Reply with quote Back to top

Holy shit son, that's fucked up.... Like to another level.... I can't even explain.... Wow, I really wish you could punch people through the internet...
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 02:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

Would this count as racist. "I'm not racist I hate everybody equally"

No but serously GAR for life
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Lottel
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 03:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Very Happy
XBL is notorious for that.
I had literally just finished a game when I read this.
The guy who was talking was a stereotypical sounding ghetto black guy. I mean he used all the slang and pronunciations like the stereotype. Most of the other players were just screaming racial slurs left and right. Except for me and this other guy who were discussing strategy. But when this guy, the stereotypical sounding guy and I finally came in contact with each other, I noscoped him. He said I had... Well... I had "a woodland mammal that often is describe as Nature's Bandit because of it's eye markings"y luck. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN? I have no idea what that even means. And second of all, what the hell? He said that? After all the racist remarks he got from other players he said something like that?!

T__T

I hate people.


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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 05:50 am Reply with quote Back to top

whether or not the kid was tough are not is a moot point. why even mention that panda, it makes no difference to the story whatsoever. That is a strange scenario. Probably just a troll, and wanted to make a "funny" exit.


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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 06:06 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Playing on LIVE! is great, if you like to hear pre-pubestant teens swear like it's going out of style. If I am playing a game that requires the headset (for strategies, etc), if people start getting too imbarable, then I just starting talking like a complete psycho, just so they'll all shut up becaue they want to hear what I'll say next.

You know, stuff like, "You knows guys, this one time I got really bored and made love to a woman made out cottage cheese and mashed potatoes. Fuck, that was awesome. Say, anybody here like to cover themselves in honey and roll around on lightbulbs?"
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 06:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

My friend and I were playing Halo 2 on XBOX Live, and you could tell thre were a bunch of younger kids waiting for the game to fill up. One kid started talking shit and my friend starts lipping back and then some more people chime in. Then with about 10 seconds til game time, he screams this at a time of dead silence. I'LLBITEYOURDICKOFFANDDRINKYOURCUMBLOOD! It was quiet for about 3 seconds until all the little kids were like "WHAT?" and all the other "older" gents were laughing.

I nearly pissed myself...just saying it was funny.


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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 09:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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The internet is serious business. In real life, they would find themselves get seriously fucked up or even dead if they ever said "nigger" or "spick" in front of those people.

With that in mind, I take everything said in Live matches with a grain of salt, and you all should too if you don't already.


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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 10:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Heh, is that from PennyArcade.com Bomberman? Looks like the same cartooning.
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 11:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Bomberman is right, they're only doing it because they're in the safety of their mom's living room. I find it kinda discouraging to see the younger generation think racism is funny or edgy, I grew up being firmly taught that it's unacceptable so it bugs me whenever I encounter it.



 
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PostPosted: Feb 11 2009 11:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I think this behavior is kind of unavoidable if you play on Xbox Live. Unless you only played with friends you could avoid it. I guess that is what the mute player button is made for though.


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