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				whenever i play a game (mostly zelda) if i come to a point where i have no idea what to do i think "there is always a reason for everything in a game" and i figure it out
 
 
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				Apparently, you've never played Simon's Quest.
				 
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				Or the NES version of Strider.
				 
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				Guess you haven't played Rocket Ranger on the NES either
				 
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				Guess you never seen the truck in Pokemon Red and Blue.
				 
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				Or played Legend of Kyrandia
				 
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| hacker wrote: | 
 
whenever i play a game (mostly zelda) if i come to a point where i have no idea what to do i think "there is always a reason for everything in a game" and i figure it out
 
 
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There is a reason for everything in a game.  But is there a reason for everything in a post?
				  
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Ash is probably just home humping his SNES collection.
 
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				Who do you think you are, Confucius?
				 
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| Ash Burton wrote: | 
 
| hacker wrote: | 
 
whenever i play a game (mostly zelda) if i come to a point where i have no idea what to do i think "there is always a reason for everything in a game" and i figure it out
 
 
is there any things like this that any of you guys use and what do you think of this | 
 
 
 
 
There is a reason for everything in a game.  But is there a reason for everything in a post? | 
 
 
<reiterate McDonald's slogan here>
				  
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				I like how Hacker misspelled there.
				 
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				In The Legend of Zelda there are several nonessential items:
 
 
Magical Key
 
Red Potion
 
Red Potion
 
Red Candle
 
Wand
 
Magic Book
 
Boomerang
 
Magic Boomerang
 
Bait
 
Blue Ring
 
Red Ring
 
Magical Shield
 
White Sword
 
The Clock
 
The Letter
 
 
The reason that they are included in the game is to make it more interesting and increase your power as you move forward.
 
 
None of these items has a specific reason as far as plot development or game progression, though they sure as fuck help.
				 
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				Thats there reason, they help
				 
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				Bait is essential, GP.  You need it to beat Level 7
				 
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| DarknessDeku wrote: | 
 
| Guess you never seen the truck in Pokemon Red and Blue. | 
 
 
Gah, that thing drove me crazy. I still remember when all my friends said that Mew was hiding under it or something....
				  
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				Tell me, then, what is the purpose of Edward sucking so much in Final Fantasy IV?
 
 
Or the fact that, in Metal Gear Solid 2, Olga is the only person with hairy armpits?
 
 
Or that dude in Zelda II who says "I Am Error"?
 
 
Why, in Final Fantasy VI, does Setzer have such craptastic beginning stats?
				 
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| Cameron wrote: | 
 
 
Or that dude in Zelda II who says "I Am Error"?
 
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Actually, Error is his real name.  You have to give him something later in the game to get to another area.
				  
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| Actually, Error is his real name. You have to give him something later in the game to get to another area. | 
 
 
Once you get to a certain point, he gives you the hint on how to find Palace 3 (head South of King's Tomb).  Someone tell you to talk to "Error in Ruto".
 
You never have to talk to him nor give him anything.
				  
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				There's no reason for there to be an emtpy triforce space in your inventory screen in Ocarina of Time, because you can never acquire the triforce.
				 
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				There's always a reason for everything in a game, but that reason isn't always known to the general public, helpful in ensuring you advance in the game, pertinent to the gameplay in any way, or even intentional.
 
 
For example, there's a reason that Minus World exists in SMB1, but it wasn't intentionally placed there.
 
 
And there's a reason that you find pieces of cheese in Perfect Dark on the N64, but they don't actually do anything.
				 
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| hacker wrote: | 
 
| Thats there reason, they help | 
 
 
I can't wait to see what sentence you manage to fit "They're" into.
				  
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				or how in the genesis version of aladdin, aladdin has a 'pushing' animation when you push against a wall, but he actually never has to push anything in the game.
				 
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| UsaSatsui wrote: | 
 
| Bait is essential, GP.  You need it to beat Level 7 | 
 
 
My bad on that one.
 
My point wasn't to try and prove that these items are worthless or stupid.  I was trying to suggest that not everything needs to be put in a game for a reason pertinent to achieving the goal of beating the game.  Sometimes things are added for shits and giggles or ambiance.
				  
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| Cameron wrote: | 
 
| Why, in Final Fantasy VI, does Setzer have such craptastic beginning stats? | 
 
 
Yea good call, Setzer is so garbage when you first get him, which really is a shame as he is such a badass character.  As a result of this he tends to sit to the side quite often....
 
Which makes me feel like an asshole simply using him for his airship.  Kinda like those people that befriend rich kids only for their cool things.
				  
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				GPF, replace bait with magic sword and your list works...
 
 
You do need the bait to get past the grumbling guys and progress
 
 
And hell the only reason at all you need the wooden sword in Zelda is to hit ganon 15 times so you can arrow his ass... Other than that you can get all the way to him without ever getting it...
 
 
 
As for everything in a game having a use? Yeah, play ShadowGate... Most of the items you find have the purpose of either 'Die for using them' or 'Eye candy for your inventory'
				 
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| Fred wrote: | 
 
| As for everything in a game having a use? Yeah, play ShadowGate... Most of the items you find have the purpose of either 'Die for using them' or 'Eye candy for your inventory' | 
 
 
Nah, this isn't true either. True, some items will kill you or whatnot, but most every other item has some kind of use. A worthless use, but a use nonetheless...
				  
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