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Posted: Jan 20 2009 12:10 pm

Hello everyone,

I was playing some Mike Tyson's punch-out the other day, and after getting fed for a while by Iron Mike himself I think I have declared him Nintendo's hardest Boss.

I find that Nintendo was never really good at making great bosses(like in the Mario games), but they really got it right with Mike Tyson. It was a good mixture of difficulty and yet kept the fun factor.

So, Who do you think is Nintendo's most difficult Boss?(restrict it to NES, SNES, N64 because I haven't played much of the other systems)

I'm very new to the site, so I apologize in advance if something like this has been discussed before.

Posted: Jan 20 2009 12:24 pm

i have to agree, iron mike is the toughest

Posted: Jan 20 2009 01:25 pm

Mmmmm yea I agree for the most part, especially with Mario. The boss battles in that franchise have always been fairly simple, but they were never intended to be exceedingly difficult.

I recall some of the Metroid Prime bosses being fairly rough.

Posted: Jan 20 2009 01:36 pm

Cackletta's Ghost in M&L:SS, that or Mecha Ridley in Metroid: ZM.

Posted: Jan 20 2009 02:02 pm

Bloody Malth in Ninja Gaiden always gave me a shit load of trouble. Not to mention if you lost, you had to do the whole damn level over again.

Joined: Feb 24 2006 Posts: 2578

But last time I checked, Ninja Gaiden was made by Tecmo.

I'm gonna agree on Mike Tyson. That whole game, while super fun to play, is ridiculously hard to beat.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 20 2009 05:11 pm

Tyson isn't nearly as hard as all that. Once you survive the first 1:30, you're fine. I always found Super Macho Man harder.

I think I'll go with the Thunderbird from Zelda II.

Posted: Jan 20 2009 07:22 pm

UsaSatsui wrote:

Tyson isn't nearly as hard as all that. Once you survive the first 1:30, you're fine. I always found Super Macho Man harder.

I think I'll go with the Thunderbird from Zelda II.

In all fairness, I think Tyson is probably the hardest until you get used to him. Then he isn't nearly as bad.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 20 2009 07:29 pm

007-373-5963

Posted: Jan 20 2009 08:55 pm

UsaSatsui wrote:

007-373-5963

I still have that memorized as well.

Posted: Jan 21 2009 08:46 am

What is that?

Posted: Jan 21 2009 08:51 am

The code to start at Tyson... or possibly Macho Man. I forget if you could start at Tyson.

I think the hardest boss is the SSBB end boss on the hardest difficulty.

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

For me, the boss at the end of Prince of Persia Rival Swords.

Why?

The swing around graphics make a camera collision detection error as you attack in phase two. Your first speed kill attack must be estimated.

Because of this, I get to phase two and attack him no less than 20-30 times before running out of life. If I could see the moment where I need to attack, then I would be fine. On the Wii all speed kills should also be based on button presses and not remote motion.

On second thought... speed kills are a stupid invention and should be sent away to the netherworld.

I have now gotten to the end boss of this game twice and cannot beat it.

UsaSatsui's Youtube Channel · Posted: Jan 21 2009 09:25 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

The code to start at Tyson... or possibly Macho Man. I forget if you could start at Tyson.

That code starts you at Tyson with an 0-2 record (not that it matters, losing to Tyson is a game over regardless)

The code the game gives you when you beat SMM starts you at SMM.

Posted: Jan 21 2009 09:27 am

Twice?, Any game where you expect to beat the final boss on the first few try's can't be that difficult. The first time you faced Tyson there is no way your able to beat him on your first couple try's.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that nobody has ever beaten Tyson on their first 2 go's at him. If you have your lying to me. Except if your that kid from "The Wizard" he was pretty good at everything.

Posted: Jan 21 2009 10:57 am

kraid was tough the first time i fought him. ridley not so much.

i also had trouble w/the blue knights in zelda ii, before i understood the pattern

Joined: Dec 06 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 11244

TopShelf wrote:

Twice?, Any game where you expect to beat the final boss on the first few try's can't be that difficult. The first time you faced Tyson there is no way your able to beat him on your first couple try's.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that nobody has ever beaten Tyson on their first 2 go's at him. If you have your lying to me. Except if your that kid from "The Wizard" he was pretty good at everything.

If you were responding to my statement about getting to the end Boss of Prince of Persia twice, I fought him more than that. I simply played through the game twice. I fought him well over 100 times.

Posted: Jan 21 2009 01:48 pm

If you were responding to my statement about getting to the end Boss of Prince of Persia twice, I fought him more than that. I simply played through the game twice. I fought him well over 100 times.[/quote]

Yeah that makes more sense, I thought you meant fighting the boss twice. 100 times though!, you may be on to something here. Well good on ya, I would of given up far before that.

Posted: Jan 21 2009 03:54 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I think the hardest boss is the SSBB end boss on the hardest difficulty.

Great call, I found that fairly challenging on the moderate level. Some of those screen filling attacks are ruthless...

Posted: Jan 21 2009 06:34 pm

I thought Tabuu was actually pretty easy, especially if you knew how to time everything. I found Duon to be harder.

And if we're going to start naming things from other companies, then I nominate the entirety of Art of Fighting, the A.I. in that game is ruthless.

Joined: Dec 05 2008 Posts: 32

Unfortunately i never played all that many of Nintendo's games, Metroid and the zeldas are about all i can think of. Even so, i STILL get thie shivvers when i think about fighting that god damn PHANTOM in Super Metroid. It's the only boss in ANY of the Metroid games i've played (everything up to the first prime, and fusion on GBC) though i hear some of Prime 2 and 3's bosses are just plain nuts.

Posted: Jan 22 2009 03:02 am

Necrosaro wrote:

Unfortunately i never played all that many of Nintendo's games, Metroid and the zeldas are about all i can think of. Even so, i STILL get thie shivvers when i think about fighting that god damn PHANTOM in Super Metroid. It's the only boss in ANY of the Metroid games i've played (everything up to the first prime, and fusion on GBC) though i hear some of Prime 2 and 3's bosses are just plain nuts.

Some of the MP3 bosses are indeed quite fierce. That game was soooo fucking enjoyable though.

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Taboo was a fucking bastard. Then again I did everything on very hard difficulty.

Posted: Jan 22 2009 09:23 pm

I hated fighting Manhandla in The Legend of Zelda. When you take out a claw it moves faster.

Joined: Sep 17 2007 Location: The Opium Trail Posts: 3475

Phatoon in Super Metroid was manageable. Just don't shoot at it with Super Missiles.