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Shut up, Dorn
Title: White Chocolate
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Zach Galifinakis. That Comedy Central Presents of him makes me almost piss my pants every time.
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Mr. Bomberman
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King
Title: CTE
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I forgot about 3 others
Patton Oswalt
Brian Posehn
Dave Attel
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anorexorcist
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Too many to list. Mitch Hedberg was probably my favorite.
Bill Hicks licked balls. Hey this guy hates stuff that I hate too, therefore he is hilarious. Bill Hicks was a scumbag hypocrite who had no delivery whatsoever. Sorry, there are a few others mentioned that I don't really care for, but his celibrity begets me. I just don't understand the appeal. |
You could say the same about George Carlin who is considered to be one of the best as well.
You clearly didn't get Bill Hicks, and that's ok, not everyone will.
It's funny you talk about his "celebrity", he really had none in the U.S. that's why he went to the U.K., made it big there, he never really made it big hear. I'm not sure how he was a hypocrite though. I can see why he'd be unfunny or batshit annoying to some ( the whole "sucking statns cock" bit makes me go wtf? a bit) but he believed what he said and wouldn't change his act completely just to be more successful here. He changed a bit so Letterman wouldn't censor him and even then they did, his club shows were always done the way he wanted, whether he pissed the crowd off or not, he didn't care.
Don't get me wrong, Hedberg is pretty great, but Hicks made you laugh and think, Hedberg just makes you laugh. Some people don't like to have to think while watching/listening to comedy, and therer where Hicks lost a lot of people.
Hedberg is quite funny, but the only reason he's as "good" as he is, is really his anxious/nervous on stage delivery. He's awkward and that makes a lot of people sympathetic towards him, making it easier to laugh when he tells a joke.
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Milhouse
Joined: Dec 19 2008
Location: Charlottesville, VA
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I saw Dave Attell at the Richmond Funnybone and he was raunchily hilarious. I have to say that stand-up is WAY funnier in person...and after the two-drink minimum.
Larry David Rules.
And I can't believe no one's mentioned Wanda Sykes! heh.
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Burt Reynolds
Title: Bentley Bear
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| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
Too many to list. Mitch Hedberg was probably my favorite.
Bill Hicks licked balls. Hey this guy hates stuff that I hate too, therefore he is hilarious. Bill Hicks was a scumbag hypocrite who had no delivery whatsoever. Sorry, there are a few others mentioned that I don't really care for, but his celibrity begets me. I just don't understand the appeal. |
You could say the same about George Carlin who is considered to be one of the best as well.
You clearly didn't get Bill Hicks, and that's ok, not everyone will.
It's funny you talk about his "celebrity", he really had none in the U.S. that's why he went to the U.K., made it big there, he never really made it big hear. I'm not sure how he was a hypocrite though. I can see why he'd be unfunny or batshit annoying to some ( the whole "sucking statns cock" bit makes me go wtf? a bit) but he believed what he said and wouldn't change his act completely just to be more successful here. He changed a bit so Letterman wouldn't censor him and even then they did, his club shows were always done the way he wanted, whether he pissed the crowd off or not, he didn't care.
Don't get me wrong, Hedberg is pretty great, but Hicks made you laugh and think, Hedberg just makes you laugh. Some people don't like to have to think while watching/listening to comedy, and therer where Hicks lost a lot of people.
Hedberg is quite funny, but the only reason he's as "good" as he is, is really his anxious/nervous on stage delivery. He's awkward and that makes a lot of people sympathetic towards him, making it easier to laugh when he tells a joke. |
haha, yeah I didn't get the deep philosophical content in his stand up. I agreed with him on some things, yes, but he came off as preachy rather than funny. His delivery was terrible. Bitching and moaning about things with out a clever delivery is just bitching and moaning. Your young, maybe when the teenage angst subsides you will understand where I'm coming from.
FYI, I hate that fucking cop out sentence.. oh you don't think he's funny so you just don't understand him. Fucking bullshit. I'm fairly well educated and have a pretty diverse sense of humor, I just don't find him funny. People have different opinions, not everyone that doesn't like what you like is a moron. I resent that.
EDIT: Funny that you mention Carlin too, because I despise his later stuff for the same reason. He quit being funny and started being preachy. Just my opinion that comedy stops being funny when its rife with the comedians political/idealistic opinions. Take for instance Mark Maron and David Cross. I actually enjoy Cross on television such as Mr. Show and Arrested Development, but his stand up is so politically charged with his liberal propoganda, that it just isn't funny anymore. I like Maron on Conan, but same thing with his standup.
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Douche McCallister
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A.) Mitch Hedberg was a druggie, who did schtick comedy. I still find him extremely funny because the shit he says is so random.
I don't think it's a matter of getting someone or not understanding them, it's just two different senses of humor. I enjoy Dane Cook, mainly because he's so active when he does his comedy, the faces and body movement when he does some of his material is priceless. To me humor is all about delivery. Eddie Murphy Delerious is still my favorite stand-up of all time though. It reeks of 70's/80's goodness. Orange Leather Jump suit and all.
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anorexorcist
Title: Polar Bear
Joined: May 21 2008
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| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
Too many to list. Mitch Hedberg was probably my favorite.
Bill Hicks licked balls. Hey this guy hates stuff that I hate too, therefore he is hilarious. Bill Hicks was a scumbag hypocrite who had no delivery whatsoever. Sorry, there are a few others mentioned that I don't really care for, but his celibrity begets me. I just don't understand the appeal. |
You could say the same about George Carlin who is considered to be one of the best as well.
You clearly didn't get Bill Hicks, and that's ok, not everyone will.
It's funny you talk about his "celebrity", he really had none in the U.S. that's why he went to the U.K., made it big there, he never really made it big hear. I'm not sure how he was a hypocrite though. I can see why he'd be unfunny or batshit annoying to some ( the whole "sucking statns cock" bit makes me go wtf? a bit) but he believed what he said and wouldn't change his act completely just to be more successful here. He changed a bit so Letterman wouldn't censor him and even then they did, his club shows were always done the way he wanted, whether he pissed the crowd off or not, he didn't care.
Don't get me wrong, Hedberg is pretty great, but Hicks made you laugh and think, Hedberg just makes you laugh. Some people don't like to have to think while watching/listening to comedy, and therer where Hicks lost a lot of people.
Hedberg is quite funny, but the only reason he's as "good" as he is, is really his anxious/nervous on stage delivery. He's awkward and that makes a lot of people sympathetic towards him, making it easier to laugh when he tells a joke. |
haha, yeah I didn't get the deep philosophical content in his stand up. I agreed with him on some things, yes, but he came off as preachy rather than funny. His delivery was terrible. Bitching and moaning about things with out a clever delivery is just bitching and moaning. Your young, maybe when the teenage angst subsides you will understand where I'm coming from.
FYI, I hate that fucking cop out sentence.. oh you don't think he's funny so you just don't understand him. Fucking bullshit. I'm fairly well educated and have a pretty diverse sense of humor, I just don't find him funny. People have different opinions, not everyone that doesn't like what you like is a moron. I resent that.
EDIT: Funny that you mention Carlin too, because I despise his later stuff for the same reason. He quit being funny and started being preachy. Just my opinion that comedy stops being funny when its rife with the comedians political/idealistic opinions. Take for instance Mark Maron and David Cross. I actually enjoy Cross on television such as Mr. Show and Arrested Development, but his stand up is so politically charged with his liberal propoganda, that it just isn't funny anymore. I like Maron on Conan, but same thing with his standup. |
You get angry and overreact over a lot of shit. I didn't mean to call you a "moron", Hicks "comedy" is a bit hard to get, hard to understand why it's funny because you are right, he is quite preachy and really doesn't have much in the way of punchlines.
I think a more simple "story and then punchline" comedians can be more successful because a more broad audience can enjoy them. Once a commedian puts his beliefs into his/her material, they start to lose a portion of the audience wich dissagrees with their beliefs.
Hedberg is funny, and makes me laugh a lot. Hicks is harder to get into but makes me laugh while making me think. In the end, I find them both funny, but I feel like I get more from Hicks than Hedberg.
Hicks had some stuff where you could tell where his beliefs were at, but at the end of the day his preaching was never really "believe this, it's what I believe so it's true", it was more like "don't believe just anything, get the facts and come to your own conclusion".
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Milhouse
Joined: Dec 19 2008
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Bill Hicks is not difficult to understand. Unless, you're as Bill says, "a Waffle House waitress." No one has universal popularity, and if Burt Reynolds doesn't like him, there's no need to chastise him.
Personally, I don't think a lot of people are funny. For instance, I don't know why Kathy Griffin is famous. I think she should be singing for buffalo wings at the train station with the rest of 'em. D-List, my ass...D is still a passing grade.
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Major.Arse
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Nice one King.
Patton Oswald indeed.
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Ba'al
Title: Zerg Zergling
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Gah, I forgot Steven Wright, I love his work as well.
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SoftNum
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Syd Lexia
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Title: Pop Culture Junkie
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More complete list. I'm assuming we're talking solely about stand-up:
Denis Leary
Rodney Dangerfield
Sam Kinison
Patton Oswalt
Jerry Seinfeld
Eddie Murphy
George Carlin
Demetri Martin
Stephen Lynch
Ron White
Bill Engvall
Stephen Wright
Jonathan Katz
Mitch Hedburg
Dom Irrera
Dana Carvey
Norm MacDonald
Kevin Nealon
Eddie Izzard
Chris Rock
Dragonboy Suede
Jim Breuer
Lewis Black
Tracy Morgan
Adam Sandler
Maria Bamford
Judy Gold
David Cross
Henry Rollins (except his ill-informed, slanderously moronic anti-Maiden rant)
Jim Gaffigan
Also, Gallagher. Gallagher is often written off as a prop comic, but the Sledge-O-Matic was about two minutes of his routine. He was fucking funny.
Probably some more which I can't think of right now.
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sidewaydriver
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Gallagher used props throughout his routine.
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Syd Lexia
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Sometimes. He generally had some ridiculous stage setup littered with stuff. At various points in the show he would use props, but it was never at the Carrot Top level where every joke was prop based. In some of his specials, he used almost none. At any rate, he did a lot of observational humor, and that was his best stuff.
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Major.Arse
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and his twin brother stole his routine.
one of them was really funny. props or no props.
the show where he was on a trampoline for most of it is all i can remember about him.
and i think he flew in on a prop bi-plane. long time ago it was.
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Ba'al
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I only remember one special where he had a watermelon blimp.
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Syd Lexia
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Best Buy had a box set like 2 years ago with all 18 of specials for $25. It was pretty awesome. More comedians need box sets. There's a damn good Rodney Dangerfield one too.
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Ba'al
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Only $25? Damn, I need that...
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Major.Arse
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comedy central used to play these all the time in the early morning hours. and other great older stand up shows. now they just show the prime time lineup 6 times a day.
back to topic: Steve Martin, one of the greatest stand up comedians ever.
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Syd Lexia
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I miss when Comedy Central regularly showed stand-up specials. If there wasn't a recession on, I'd demand a premium channel that was nothing but stand-up specials.
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TheRoboSleuth
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I'm gonna chime in on Bill Hicks.
Bill Hicks considered the comedy club to be the perfect venue to spread a message of peace and freedom of mind, and to attack those things he considered ignorant or hypocritical. He was also an egotist with airs of romantic suffering. His tastes and experiences, from dislike of summer to his smoking habit to a stint of drug use take precedent over others. As a matter of fact, you have a good chance of living longer and healthier if you don't smoke regardless of the sometimes smug nature of non-smokers(which is sometimes genuine concern for the wellbeing of others having had close members of their own family perish young from it). Not everybody can handle access to drugs freely(specifically crack, cocaine, meth, speed, and heroine) and society suffers from it. The only good thing about winter in my opinion is the opportunity to break out my bitchin trenchcoat.
His egotism also manifests in his complete inability to interact with his audience. Any burst of audience interaction ends either on a low note lacking in real jokes or him berating them. I'd like to also note a sort of taste for casting himself as a suffering hero, a noble man in a world of idiots that ignore him.
I like him, but I think he should have stuck to maybe writing or editorials or somesuch, where his deft skill at metaphor and keen insight would have served him better, and where he never need so much as talk to the people he was so fond of preaching to.
(It doesn't really fit into the above, but I'l like to note couple of things Bill Hicks said about two of the above comedians. The first being the miserable hack Denis Leary, who may have stolen/happened upon a similar joke or two of Hick's, but was otherwise very distinct so a full aping is right out. More of a status quo confirming raconteur asshole really. The second is Gallegher, who Bill Hicks really hated as a mindless prop comic. Except Gallagher was an observational comic of above average ability who happened on a gimmick that brought people in. In both instances very shallow evaluations)
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Ash Burton
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Syd had a bunch..the Marine has but one...
This guy provides more humor than all the Comic Reliefs combined.
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Ash is probably just home humping his SNES collection.
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Greg the White
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George Carlin, Jeremy Hotz, and Lewis Black are my hands-down favorites.
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King
Title: CTE
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Ok so Marine wins, and I mean WINS!!!
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