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Lottel
Title: of the Eternal BWOG
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I am amazed that this didn't stop with the video I posted. It explains everything clearly.
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Optimist With Doubts
Title: Titlating
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
| Optimist With Doubts wrote: |
| I'm not saying people should feel horrible for saying stuff is gay when they mean lame or dumb. All I'm saying is that some gay people find it offensive to do so and I agree that they have a reason for it. |
Well said. |
Ok i should clarify I don't think you should feel bad as much as just be cautious that people do find it offensive and try to use it as often because of that.
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Douche McCallister
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I could see them being upset if Homosexual was used interchangably for stupid or dumb, but because they take a word and associate with themselves,now we as a people are not allowed to touch it anymore? I'm gonna take the word awesome and associate with an adult student who works full time. Now whenever you say, "That looks awesome" or the like you will be saying that looks like me and my brethren, and I will not appreciate it. Gay...It's a word...that's it. It also just so happens to be the Homosexual communities word of choice to be shorthand for Homosexual.
Take for example Boss? That's Boss! Used to mean thats awesome or cool. The only other meaning was someone you work for. There is no relation. Just like saying Gay means dumb. Doesn't mean it is associated with peoples sexuality. And I'm offically done with this topic now. Man this place is awesome. (I can say it because it's MY word)
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Optimist With Doubts
Title: Titlating
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| Lottel wrote: |
| I am amazed that this didn't stop with the video I posted. It explains everything clearly. |
I agree this is crazy, and it wouldn't of happened if you all posted in my golden globe thread.
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Optimist With Doubts
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
I could see them being upset if Homosexual was used interchangably for stupid or dumb, but because they take a word and associate with themselves,now we as a people are not allowed to touch it anymore? I'm gonna take the word awesome and associate with an adult student who works full time. Now whenever you say, "That looks awesome" or the like you will be saying that looks like me and my brethren, and I will not appreciate it. Gay...It's a word...that's it. It also just so happens to be the Homosexual communities word of choice to be shorthand for Homosexual.
Take for example Boss? That's Boss! Used to mean thats awesome or cool. The only other meaning was someone you work for. There is no relation. Just like saying Gay means dumb. Doesn't mean it is associated with peoples sexuality. And I'm offically done with this topic now. Man this place is awesome. (I can say it because it's MY word)  |
ok this is my last post in this topic but i will repeat my point that it is more than just a word they associate with themselves it's a word that when most people here they will associate with that group. But whatever no more arguments everyone wins can we go back to talking about video games and tv shows again please?
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Ash Burton
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Greg the White
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
I could see them being upset if Homosexual was used interchangably for stupid or dumb, but because they take a word and associate with themselves,now we as a people are not allowed to touch it anymore? I'm gonna take the word awesome and associate with an adult student who works full time. Now whenever you say, "That looks awesome" or the like you will be saying that looks like me and my brethren, and I will not appreciate it. Gay...It's a word...that's it. It also just so happens to be the Homosexual communities word of choice to be shorthand for Homosexual.
Take for example Boss? That's Boss! Used to mean thats awesome or cool. The only other meaning was someone you work for. There is no relation. Just like saying Gay means dumb. Doesn't mean it is associated with peoples sexuality. And I'm offically done with this topic now. Man this place is awesome. (I can say it because it's MY word)  |
Exactly, "boss" as an adjective is meant as a positive, a metaphor for saying it's better than something else. By that logic, you're still using a term for a group of people as an insult.
Also, why are people so attached to the word? Can't you just use another one? What has it done for you that you will crusade for its usage as an insult that you are so adamant to leaving it be as an easier way of saying "homosexual?"
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drewbocop
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Ash Burton
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Lottel
Title: of the Eternal BWOG
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I found the ultimate spokesman for Gays. Do you think Mr. Halford is going to let some douche say that's so gay? You've got another thing coming!
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He wouldn't do much to you though, otherwise he'd be breakin' the law. |
Nice...I still think some heads are gonna roll... |
Right into his mouth.
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drewbocop
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| Marine79 wrote: |
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| Marine79 wrote: |
I found the ultimate spokesman for Gays. Do you think Mr. Halford is going to let some douche say that's so gay? You've got another thing coming!
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He wouldn't do much to you though, otherwise he'd be breakin' the law. |
Nice...I still think some heads are gonna roll... |
Yeah, call Rob Halford gay and he'll take his... guitar and ram it down your throat. (This is getting difficult now)
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Burt Reynolds
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I think it's all about intent. Everyone has a right to get offended, just like everyone has a right to say what they will. But realisticly, I've always found what somebody says offensive if they are being malicious. Example: I'm a good part Native American and my friends always fuck around with me for it. I know they aren't serious, and knowing this, it doesn't upset me. However, if some asshole on the street started bashing my heratige, he is being malicious, therefore he would upset me. I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad.
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Dr. Jeebus
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JoshWoodzy
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Yeah and her complete lack of sexual attractiveness probably drove her to think "Well hell, there is no web pages with upskirt shots of me, men must not like me. Think I'll swing the other way"
You are all welcome for that sweet mental image.
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JRA
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I found the ultimate spokesman for Gays. Do you think Mr. Halford is going to let some douche say that's so gay? You've got another thing coming!
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That is a terrible picture of him. He looks like he's about to cry.
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 There are a lot of what if's in life Donny. What if I hit you really hard in the face, knocked yo shit to the back of yo skull? What if I....had you girl gargle my nuts? The fact remains, you are a fuckin mutant. |
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Douche McCallister
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| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
| I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad. |
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. Just because you say "Man that was gay." Doesn't mean secretly in your head your saying, "Man that was, hmmm how can I bash homosexual people." It's a word. Just like when people say, "Jesus Christ!" or "GOD DAMNIT", are people going to stop saying it because it is Blasphemious to almost half the world? I know I'm not. If you ask me using the Lords name in vain is 1000X worse then saying "Man that was gay."
Unless some new points come up I'm done with this.
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Greg the White
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
| I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad. |
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. Just because you say "Man that was gay." Doesn't mean secretly in your head your saying, "Man that was, hmmm how can I bash homosexual people." It's a word. Just like when people say, "Jesus Christ!" or "GOD DAMNIT", are people going to stop saying it because it is Blasphemious to almost half the world? I know I'm not. If you ask me using the Lords name in vain is 1000X worse then saying "Man that was gay."
Unless some new points come up I'm done with this. |
Just think about it through your logic. Answer this: Why did someone originally say "that's gay?"
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Burt Reynolds
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| Greg the White wrote: |
| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
| I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad. |
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. Just because you say "Man that was gay." Doesn't mean secretly in your head your saying, "Man that was, hmmm how can I bash homosexual people." It's a word. Just like when people say, "Jesus Christ!" or "GOD DAMNIT", are people going to stop saying it because it is Blasphemious to almost half the world? I know I'm not. If you ask me using the Lords name in vain is 1000X worse then saying "Man that was gay."
Unless some new points come up I'm done with this. |
Just think about it through your logic. Answer this: Why did someone originally say "that's gay?" |
The term "gypped" was also originally offensive to gypsies, but nobody knows that now because the word has evolved, like language does. It evolves. I'm not saying gays don't have the right to be upset, it just seems like a waste of money and effort to make a PSA on it, when it's really not that bad relatively. They should be doing PSA's protesting prop 8, because that is something that actually effects the gay community. It's an oppressive LAW that takes away the rights of gays, not a silly word, that in reality doesn't even offend most gay people.
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anorexorcist
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| Greg the White wrote: |
| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
| I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad. |
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. Just because you say "Man that was gay." Doesn't mean secretly in your head your saying, "Man that was, hmmm how can I bash homosexual people." It's a word. Just like when people say, "Jesus Christ!" or "GOD DAMNIT", are people going to stop saying it because it is Blasphemious to almost half the world? I know I'm not. If you ask me using the Lords name in vain is 1000X worse then saying "Man that was gay."
Unless some new points come up I'm done with this. |
Just think about it through your logic. Answer this: Why did someone originally say "that's gay?" |
Are you a homosexual by chance? That is a serious question. I'm just wondering because you are fighting this to the death and if you were a homosexual, the offense you seem to take by this would make much more sense.
I have nothing against homosexuals, I believe they should have the right to marry, I just think fighting over the word "gay" is stupid, considering it originaly meant something completely unrelated to homosexuality. They should focus on the fight for marriage (I believe it is still outlawed in certain states?), instead of fighting to "own" the word gay.
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Dr. Jeebus
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| anorexorcist wrote: |
| Greg the White wrote: |
| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| Burt Reynolds wrote: |
| I don't think that most people that use the term gay are intending to offend homosexuals, so I don't see what all the fuss is about, but it's their right to be upset so whatever. People are always going to say things that make eachother mad. |
This is pretty much what I was trying to say. Just because you say "Man that was gay." Doesn't mean secretly in your head your saying, "Man that was, hmmm how can I bash homosexual people." It's a word. Just like when people say, "Jesus Christ!" or "GOD DAMNIT", are people going to stop saying it because it is Blasphemious to almost half the world? I know I'm not. If you ask me using the Lords name in vain is 1000X worse then saying "Man that was gay."
Unless some new points come up I'm done with this. |
Just think about it through your logic. Answer this: Why did someone originally say "that's gay?" |
Are you a homosexual by chance? That is a serious question. I'm just wondering because you are fighting this to the death and if you were a homosexual, the offense you seem to take by this would make much more sense.
I have nothing against homosexuals, I believe they should have the right to marry, I just think fighting over the word "gay" is stupid, considering it originaly meant something completely unrelated to homosexuality. They should focus on the fight for marriage (I believe it is still outlawed in certain states?), instead of fighting to "own" the word gay. |
QFT. Besides, they stole enough words, like Lance and Bruce. Those were our toughest names!
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Shut up, Dorn
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Wait, no one answered my question: Hillary Duff is gay?
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| Marine79 wrote: |
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I found the ultimate spokesman for Gays. Do you think Mr. Halford is going to let some douche say that's so gay? You've got another thing coming!
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He wouldn't do much to you though, otherwise he'd be breakin' the law. |
Nice...I still think some heads are gonna roll... |
Yeah, call Rob Halford gay and he'll take his... guitar and ram it down your throat. (This is getting difficult now) |
All this gay bashing must have Rob "screaming for vengeance". |
At this point, he's gonna need a painkiller.
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"Well I don`t judge most things by graphics, reality has amazing graphics, and I don`t like it, that`s why I play video games." Laminated Sky on Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker |
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drewbocop
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| Marine79 wrote: |
| drewbocop wrote: |
| Marine79 wrote: |
| drewbocop wrote: |
| Marine79 wrote: |
I found the ultimate spokesman for Gays. Do you think Mr. Halford is going to let some douche say that's so gay? You've got another thing coming!
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He wouldn't do much to you though, otherwise he'd be breakin' the law. |
Nice...I still think some heads are gonna roll... |
Yeah, call Rob Halford gay and he'll take his... guitar and ram it down your throat. (This is getting difficult now) |
All this gay bashing must have Rob "screaming for vengeance". |
At this point, he's gonna need a painkiller. |
I don't think he believes in painkillers, infact I'd be willing to bet he could eat me alive...
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| Now that rainbows are confiscate of the Gay Empire Or Whatever©, they're suspect to foul play. People follow it expecting a pot of gold and a leprechaun, but all they find is a mannequin with a melted ass and a bloody rubber inside... and a leprechaun. |
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