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Posted: Dec 15 2008 08:32 am

I can't dragon punch. I'll pull it off occasionally, usually by accident, but I can't consistently do it.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 08:48 am

Its sorta hard like trying to get Sub Zero to do that slide kick I mean

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Wow... that's.... huge.

Everyone will want to play you online now knowing you can't do it Very Happy

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Syd Lexia wrote:

I can't dragon punch. I'll pull it off occasionally, usually by accident, but I can't consistently do it.

That is because it is the worlds most fucking stupid button combination of all time.

While that may be exaggerated slightly... it is fucking stupid.

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not really. I can't think of a better motion for anti air attacks.

I find a lot of time the trick is in timing. I know this will sound kinda silly, but depending on what game you're playing, try ending the motion earlier than you think you ahve to. I remember having to do this a lot in battle arena toshinden.

it also helps to mash the fireball motion repeatedly and slam on the punch button while doing something else that wont make you spaz all over, like while getting up or while jumping in with another attack.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 01:47 pm

Wow. Just wow.

It's easy as hell for me, even on a keyboard.

Then again, I used to know no super moves for a very long time.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 02:33 pm

I used to never be able to use anything that required the dragon punch movement, but now I just need a joystick/arcade stick to be able to use them reliably, I suck using d-pads.

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Guys don't mock Syd or he'll make one of the SNES challenges that you have to do this move constantly through every fight with perfect victories.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 03:08 pm

GPFontaine wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I can't dragon punch. I'll pull it off occasionally, usually by accident, but I can't consistently do it.

That is because it is the worlds most fucking stupid button combination of all time.

While that may be exaggerated slightly... it is fucking stupid.

It's the most practical combination for a dragon punch. It's not that hard once you get used to it, but it's absolutely perfect for air counters. It requires quick thinking. Your opponent is jumping toward you, do you have enough time to pull of the counter? Are you sure enough of yourself to pull it off? or are you going to sit back and block, or maybe roundhouse? I mean, what do you propose the combination be, foward + punch or something super easy where people could spam the shit out of it more than people do already?

Posted: Dec 15 2008 05:43 pm

lol.... SHUSH GPF! Very Happy

Posted: Dec 15 2008 06:05 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

I can't dragon punch. I'll pull it off occasionally, usually by accident, but I can't consistently do it.

Pick a character that doesn't use it, like Guile, or a character that already has a dominating anti-air like Q's standing Strong.

I can't perform exotic combos very effectively, but I've started genuinely applying myself. Until then, I use grapplers, simple combo strikers, and such.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 06:10 pm

GPFontaine wrote:

Guys don't mock Syd or he'll make one of the SNES challenges that you have to do this move constantly through every fight with perfect victories.

LMAO! That would be worse then Castle of Dragon!

Posted: Dec 15 2008 06:29 pm

Burt Reynolds wrote:

GPFontaine wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

I can't dragon punch. I'll pull it off occasionally, usually by accident, but I can't consistently do it.

That is because it is the worlds most fucking stupid button combination of all time.

While that may be exaggerated slightly... it is fucking stupid.

It's the most practical combination for a dragon punch. It's not that hard once you get used to it, but it's absolutely perfect for air counters. It requires quick thinking. Your opponent is jumping toward you, do you have enough time to pull of the counter? Are you sure enough of yourself to pull it off? or are you going to sit back and block, or maybe roundhouse? I mean, what do you propose the combination be, foward + punch or something super easy where people could spam the shit out of it more than people do already?

The more they use the same move, the easier an opponent they become. It's like people who would jump and kick all the time in Mortal Kombat, or do that F,F,P combo with Cinder in Killer Instinct.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 06:31 pm

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Pick a character that doesn't use it, like Guile

Heh, the only thing I'm worse at is down-up move ups.

I'm actually fairly passable as Ken even with my poor DP skills.

Posted: Dec 15 2008 08:05 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Pick a character that doesn't use it, like Guile

Heh, the only thing I'm worse at is down-up move ups.

I'm actually fairly passable as Ken even with my poor DP skills.

Yeah, at least in the SF application, the dragon punch is relatively low damage for as a counter attack. It does its real damage when your opponent is close and on the ground, IE combo applications. You can get similar results by substituting it with a fireball. Actually, a fireball is usually the safer route because sometimes the combo will push you back far enough to not fully connect on the dragon punch leaving you in the air and vulnerable to a counter.

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What happened to 2D, anyway? It seems everything just became 3D because it was the cool thing to do, and not necessarily because it looked better.

I miss traditionally animated movies and sprites. Sad

Posted: Dec 15 2008 10:10 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Pick a character that doesn't use it, like Guile

Heh, the only thing I'm worse at is down-up move ups.

I'm actually fairly passable as Ken even with my poor DP skills.

i never thought ken would be a fan of double penetration

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username wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Pick a character that doesn't use it, like Guile

Heh, the only thing I'm worse at is down-up move ups.

I'm actually fairly passable as Ken even with my poor DP skills.

i never ken would be a fan of double penetration

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GPFontaine wrote:

Guys don't mock Syd or he'll make one of the SNES challenges that you have to do this move constantly through every fight with perfect victories.

That's good practice actually. I used to do it on opponents throwing weak ones over and over again until they tried to hit me and got hit.

For Guile-like characters, he's the guy you should learn if you want to play all charge characters well(and Blanka as a #2). Work out his Flash Kick timing and you can pretty much set the pace of the match.

Posted: Dec 16 2008 04:09 am

For me, I've always had trouble pulling off 360s/720s. Hence why i'm not a big fan of most command grapplers.

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One of the many reasons I preferred Mortal Kombat - the moves were always easier to pull off (except the finishers with the up button in them).

Ending a controller pad movement on a diagonal always messed me up.

Posted: Dec 16 2008 12:37 pm

lordsathien I am with you. I can do the 360 or 720 moves, but not consistently, and not with way too much timing, more then available when fighting a decent opponent, human or computer.

Posted: Dec 16 2008 02:19 pm

360/720 moves are only plausible with an arcade stick.

Posted: Dec 16 2008 03:00 pm

Syd Lexia wrote:

360/720 moves are only plausible with an arcade stick.

I can perform 360's consistently on the PS2 controller, 720's are reserved for when people stand next to me when I wake up, or right out of a jump on SFIII where you can parry. I still can't do 360's consistently on the keyboard, which is why I stick to KoF on ROMs. But yeah the arcade cabinet style is the best way to play 2D fighters, especially ones with 6 buttons.

I curious how the 360 controller uses. Its D-pad seems a bit more fluid.

Posted: Dec 16 2008 03:08 pm

RobotGumshoe wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

360/720 moves are only plausible with an arcade stick.

I can perform 360's consistently on the PS2 controller, 720's are reserved for when people stand next to me when I wake up, or right out of a jump on SFIII where you can parry. I still can't do 360's consistently on the keyboard, which is why I stick to KoF on ROMs. But yeah the arcade cabinet style is the best way to play 2D fighters, especially ones with 6 buttons.

I curious how the 360 controller uses. Its D-pad seems a bit more fluid.

The 360 d-pad is notorious for sucking.

I suck at complete circle movements myself, even on my PS1 controller.