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Adrenaline
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PostPosted: Oct 17 2008 04:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Hey, any of you guys ever watch this show? Its pretty damn funny.


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PostPosted: Oct 17 2008 05:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

its pretty good as far as sitcoms go


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PostPosted: Oct 18 2008 10:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think it's alright. I just don't really dig the whole "We are geeks, and we will do nothing but geek jokes" thing they got going on. I mean I realize that is the whole point, but when the punch-line usually ends up being something about quantum theory or carbon dating, it is usually a pity laugh as in the audience saying "oh that's funny 'cause I don't know what that is, so i should probably laugh" I do know about those things obviously, but I doubt everyone who watches the show does, so they should probably work on story line and jokes just a tad more.
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PostPosted: Oct 18 2008 09:59 pm Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzell wrote:
I think it's alright. I just don't really dig the whole "We are geeks, and we will do nothing but geek jokes" thing they got going on. I mean I realize that is the whole point, but when the punch-line usually ends up being something about quantum theory or carbon dating, it is usually a pity laugh as in the audience saying "oh that's funny 'cause I don't know what that is, so i should probably laugh" I do know about those things obviously, but I doubt everyone who watches the show does, so they should probably work on story line and jokes just a tad more.


I just don't really like sitcoms in general I think canned laughter should have died in the 90's. But as far as crappy sitcoms go this and two and half men aren't so horrible


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PostPosted: Oct 19 2008 12:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

I liked Sheldon's Halloween costume...the Doppler Effect.

That's all I like about that show.


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PostPosted: Nov 02 2008 07:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I just finished watching the first season. I absolutely loved all the science and geek references on the sets and clothes, like the periodic table shower curtain, Leonard's caffeine molecule t-shirt or the CPEP Standard Model poster in the university hallway. It reminded me of The IT Crowd in that regard. The art department on both of those shows really did their homework. It's almost like a big ThinkGeek commercial.

It's also great that they cast Sara Gilbert as Leslie and Laurie Metcalf as Sheldon's mom. As far as I'm concerned as long as it's not Tom Arnold they bring on the show, they can totally keep casting Roseanne alumni for the roles.

Optimist With Doubts wrote:
as far as crappy sitcoms go this and two and half men aren't so horrible

They also share the same major weakness in that it's basically the same jokes over and over again. Just instead of Charlie making sarcastic remarks about Alan and being emotionally dead, you have Sheldon rattling off irrelevant facts at Leonard and being emotionally incompetent. It's not that both shows don't do well what they do, it's just that it's bound to get old after a while.



 
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PostPosted: Jan 06 2009 04:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Great show. I got it into it recently. I normally hate sitcoms, but it's obvious that Big Bang is written for geeks by geeks.

Strangely enough the show is on fire in the ratings. On paper, it shouldn't be. It's about four nerds and the humor is usually off elite nerdisms. Yet, people really seem to dig it.



CBS is on their game sitcom-wise apparently, because I also got into "How I Met Your Mother". Also another show that reveals in its nerdiness.

So that's four sitcoms on presently I like: Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, The Office, and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. ... All four very nerdy shows... hmmmmm


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PostPosted: Jan 06 2009 04:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Tebor wrote:
Great show. I got it into it recently. I normally hate sitcoms, but it's obvious that Big Bang is written for geeks by geeks.

Strangely enough the show is on fire in the ratings. On paper, it shouldn't be. It's about four nerds and the humor is usually off elite nerdisms. Yet, people really seem to dig it.



CBS is on their game sitcom-wise apparently, because I also got into "How I Met Your Mother". Also another show that reveals in its nerdiness.

So that's four sitcoms on presently I like: Big Bang Theory, How I Met Your Mother, The Office, and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. ... All four very nerdy shows... hmmmmm
the geeks will inherit the earth


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PostPosted: Jan 06 2009 05:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't like this show. It has its moments, but not anymore than any other crappy typical network sitcom. Just because the jokes deal with geekdom and not with subject-x doesn't make it a better show. It's the same formula and it's a bit over the top at times. I like geeky jokes a lot; I make them often and love shows that have them, but I don't like jokes being catered and tailored to me. The delivery of jokes

Also, I hate laugh tracks with a passion. I get more out of a joke when I see it and understand, not when some dead people jar their sides on command.


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PostPosted: Jan 06 2009 05:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rycona wrote:
I don't like this show. It has its moments, but not anymore than any other crappy typical network sitcom. Just because the jokes deal with geekdom and not with subject-x doesn't make it a better show. It's the same formula and it's a bit over the top at times. I like geeky jokes a lot; I make them often and love shows that have them, but I don't like jokes being catered and tailored to me. The delivery of jokes

Also, I hate laugh tracks with a passion. I get more out of a joke when I see it and understand, not when some dead people jar their sides on command.

Believe me, I hate the laugh track more than anyone, but any show that uses The Time Machine as well as it did and had an end teaser where a character splits with mitosis is doing something right.

I will agree that references don't make a show, but the references on this show go much farther than how a show like "Family Guy" uses them. I think it goes beyond tailoring -- especially if you're reading Chuck Lorre's notes at the end of every episode where you see they come out of actual debates and real life.

Sit-com formulas I usually hate too. While "Big Bang" is a sitcom, it isn't nearly as bad as say "According to Jim". There's still genuine integrity behind the episode's emotional points. It also takes a much more humorous path than other shows where characters are trying to manipulate and hurt others. For the most part, all the characters on this show are terrible liars and overcompensate for it - hence the laughs.

As for canned laughter, I can say that sitcoms still actually do use real live audiences. Big Bang Theory is still a hit show to get tickets to in LA. I can't say how much of the laughter on the show is real however, but I have heard a few comments from the peanut gallery that I believe were genuinely recorded by the audience. There's been a couple of obnoxious screaming by a single person that comes out. I love those obnoxious people, because it would never be recorded on a padded track. In an episode of "Seinfeld" Larry David is clearly heard laughing off camera. Laughs like that I love, because it is genuine. There is also a difference between live audience laughter and something previously recorded. There's an emotional rise to the real ones.

An example of a reaction I think is real is in that clip I posted. Note when Sheldon comes out with the gifts, there's laughter by like three people at first, but when he passes through the alcove the rest of the room joins in. This is because Sheldon would be blocked by the set coming out. Most of the audience wouldn't see him until he came out as he did. The laugh track matches that reality and I believe most of it (if not all) was an actual reaction during recording.

Now, a show like "How I Met Your Mother" I know is not recorded in front of a live studio audience just because like "Seinfeld" there's about 30 set ups in every episode. They say the laughter is recorded later by screening the episode for an audience. I have never been in an audience for that show and I have no idea how that works. In the case of "How I Met Your Mother" where the audience can't be present, I don't know why they go the extra mile of using a laugh track -- especially when it is so edited; on an episode commentary for "Nothing Good Happens After 2 A.M." the show producers admit they had to cut out audience reactions when Ted makes an immoral choice.

For shows like "Big Bang Theory", I can get behind the live audience. The set ups are much more common for a sitcom - granted there's numerous special effects going on in that show sometimes. And actors just like to have an audience. The sitcom in general is very similar to a stage play and our psyche kind of likes the environment it creates.

I don't like canned laughter when it is used to reinforce a joke. However, with both "Big Bang Theory" and "How I Met Your Mother" I actually forget about the laugh track more often than not. You really do stop paying attention to it, because you're either invested in the episode, or you actually find the joke funny.

And so on and so on...


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PostPosted: Jan 07 2009 06:11 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rycona wrote:
Just because the jokes deal with geekdom and not with subject-x doesn't make it a better show.

It's not just the geek references that make the show for me. It's that the characters are excited about the right things, which shows me that the writers understand the mindset and aren't just stringing together clichés and random trivia.

Take for example the scene where Howard establishes an Internet connection, spanning different continents, back into their own apartment where a receiver is attached to a lamp; then watch the nerdgasm they all get when they send a signal around the whole world and it turns on the light bulb with a subtle time lag from the journey. It should be immediately obvious to anyone who shares the geek mindset why doing something like this is the coolest thing ever. But try explaining it to somebody who doesn't understand it and you see that it's not so obvious after all. The fact that the writers got this right shows an understanding of what makes the geek mind tick that doesn't just reduce it to "knows science and comic book stuff".

In fact the portrail is so spot-on that there is actually a legend about phone phreaking pioneer Captain Crunch that has similar streaks. It's said that after he figured out that the 2600Hz tone from a plastic whistle he found in a cereal could be used to enter operator mode on a telephone line, Captain Crunch managed to route a phone call from a public phone through different phone switches in various countries all over the world. He then dialed the number of the public phone next to him where he could hear his own voice when talking into the first phone, with a few seconds delay from the journey around the globe.

I don't think the light bulb thing was a conscious reference to this story, but both are fantastic examples for the playful ingenuity that is so defining for geeks. You don't get something like that right by accident.



 
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