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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 02:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Being an arrogant douchebag isn't going to endear you to anyone. I should know, I'm the expect on that. If you wanna play me, you know what you have to do. It's gonna be a massacre anyway so I don't even know why you're so anxious, other than so you can say you had the honour of having your dreams crushed by me.


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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 02:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Also, if you want us to use your gay little program, include some fucking links.


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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 03:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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Also, if you want us to use your gay little program, include some fucking links.



You need a link, that's all that's holding you back? I'll give you one: http://www.octgn.net/downloads.php

Guides you through telling everything you need. (Fern uses the same program so just PM him for set downloads).


You can net deck do anything you want it doesn't matter. I'll still win. I'm ready to pound it where you need it badly. you have to post it to on your blog... I'm gunna talk to Fern figure out how to record this shit.

-Lord Snow

We'll do the Extended format that was legal as of August of this year, I haven't updated to July's format.


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Fernin
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 03:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I figured you would've mentioned that you had already posted that link halfway down page 5 of this thread, Snow. ...And that Jeebus was the very next person to respond to you, showing that he did, at one point, read that post and know that the link was there.



 
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 03:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Fernin wrote:
I figured you would've mentioned that you had already posted that link halfway down page 5 of this thread, Snow. ...And that Jeebus was the very next person to respond to you, showing that he did, at one point, read that post and know that the link was there.


I thought about doing just that... said fuck it. I don't need to mock him in real life, i'll do it in game.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 07:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Uh, I'd like to say that I don't think the card sets that OCTGN needs to work are legal to distribute. I'm not entirely sure. Just though I'd point it out.
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 08:00 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Good point, that link is to the official site to download the OCTGN program. Beyond that there is a chat room where people can help you install whatever you need to for a given card game. Also can just search for them.


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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 08:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I tap three plains, and play Unmake on JonSnow...
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 09:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, I know, the program itself is legal. Just saying.
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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 09:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Knyte wins. Flawless victory.

And yeah, fuck that program. If we're gonna play, just proxy a deck and we'll do it in IRC like has always been done. Oh, and we're not playing. You're carrying on like a fucking three year old, so I'm absolutely not going to give you what you want. Behaviour like that should NEVER be rewarded.


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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 13 2010 10:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Knyte wins. Flawless victory.

And yeah, fuck that program. If we're gonna play, just proxy a deck and we'll do it in IRC like has always been done. Oh, and we're not playing. Y.

IRC over OCTGN?... I have my deck right next to me so it's possible, plus we'd ahve an audience that woudl make it cool. Syd would have to be watching you play though.. i don't trust you Jeebus.. you got to much pride.. oh ya i drew such and such.. riiiggght.


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you're carrying on like a fucking three year old, so I'm absolutely not going to give you what you want


Whatever suits you, but you can't say i was the reason we didn't play.


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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 14 2010 02:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

You are the reason we aren't playing. YOU'RE FUCKING ANNOYING. Once you get knocked down like 8 pegs and learn to control yourself, maybe then we'll play a game. And yeah, I'm giving myself a warning for flaming you. Totally worth it.


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KyriosExousia
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PostPosted: Jul 17 2010 07:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

whatever happened to the unwritten rules 0.o
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JonSnow
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PostPosted: Jul 20 2010 07:33 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well we wrote them all.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jul 20 2010 07:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Another unwritten rule:

You can take multiple mulligans without penalty... WITHIN REASON.

No one wants to see you get landscrewed in a multiplayer game. It ruins the fun. But you can't keep mulling till you get a leyline in your opening hand or a god hand. And if you need to mull more than two or three times, your land ratio sucks. Build a better deck.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 21 2010 11:19 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Another unwritten rule:

You can take multiple mulligans without penalty... WITHIN REASON.

No one wants to see you get landscrewed in a multiplayer game. It ruins the fun. But you can't keep mulling till you get a leyline in your opening hand or a god hand. And if you need to mull more than two or three times, your land ratio sucks. Build a better deck.

This reminds me of something that happened to me last week, one of my usually magic buddies was over and I wanted to test a new deck so we sat down for a one on one. I drew my 7. No land. Mulligan. Still no land. again. again. again...

I mulligan 8 times before seeing a single land. I even tried a few draws without reshuffling, just placing this discarded hand on the bottom of the deck.

The really messed up part: It was a 60 card deck with 24 lands in it.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jul 21 2010 11:24 am Reply with quote Back to top

It does happen. I've gone 3-0 in drafts (usuaully playing a total of 7 or 8 games) without ever drawing a particular card in my deck. And in that format, you're only playing 40 cards. It's ridiculous.
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PostPosted: Jul 21 2010 11:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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You can take multiple mulligans without penalty... WITHIN REASON.


I don't play by that... part of good deck construction is building so no need for mulligan. This can encourage players to go heavier for combo decks, and they can get a couple free mulligans... I know for casual play it's fine, and most your friends won't abuse it, in how they build their deck. But there is room for abuse, in how you choose to construct your deck.... which is why i always play mulligan down to one less, i can make exceptions.


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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 04:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

You can't build a deck so there's no need for mulliganing. I mean, unless you're a mutant and have the ability to manipulate statistics so that you NEVER get an unlucky draw. Mulligans are part of the game, but since multiplayer is meant to be a fun time, you shouldn't make people Paris down to 4 cards just because they were unlucky enough to draw a couple no-land hands. There's no fun in sitting there unable to do anything, and you shouldn't force your friends into that situation.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 09:30 am Reply with quote Back to top

Mulligans can be abused, but I've never seen a casual player abuse them.
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 11:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

Exactly. Especially with the Leylines in M11, there is going to be a higher ammount of people trying to mulligan to manipulate thier decks. But, that should stay in Tourny, and not casual. One rule you can use, that my group does even though it isn't really a rule, is if you mulligan, you show everyone your hand.

This shows everyone that you are mulliganing due to lack of lands, not because you didn't draw your best starting combo hand.
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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 01:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, that's how we used to play. Should probably go back to that.
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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 02:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Having no lands isn't the only reason to mull. If I'm running a 5 color deck and I have an opponent hand with 2 lands and 5 cards that aren't the same colors as the lands, I'm not keeping that hand.


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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 03:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Yeah, that's how we used to play. Should probably go back to that.

im all for bringing back ante too, but people would flip the fuck out.


Who likes role-playing games? Me. Way too goddamn much.
 
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Knyte
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PostPosted: Jul 22 2010 04:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Having no lands isn't the only reason to mull. If I'm running a 5 color deck and I have an opponent hand with 2 lands and 5 cards that aren't the same colors as the lands, I'm not keeping that hand.

Well, any justifiable reason other than being a dick. I mean if I am playing a two color deck and am holding 5 white spells and 2 forests, I'm going to mulligan as well.
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