actually, for once snow has a little something, despite being a total jackhole in just about every respect. thopter squadron and thopter foundry are a little different in the execution. the combo would really be something else with tezzeret or a master of etherium or two.

yeah, Jeebus, you're right. edit: never mind my last comment about thopter squadron/sludge strider. thought thopter squadron had a 0 colorless cost to make/reabsorb thopters. not as good as I thought. that's what I get for reading magic cards early early in the morning

JonSnow wrote:

Quote: And that's why Jeebus is a dick to play Magic with... That's called stacking the deck, it's not even real mtg. Honestly, I understand people only have so much money so can't keep current with Standard and extended, but vintage format is laughable for anyone with a large card pool. Luckily most people don't have that large of card pool so it's fun because you guys are playing in a ridiculous format but with only very few of of the OP'd cards, or at least not (4 copies of them). So it makes for a balanced deck verse each other, and in general. Granted if you guys had unlimited cards to choose from, then vintage would just be a "for fun" format. As the range and power of decks is ridiculous.

stacking the deck is where you set up cards to fall in a certain order. having a killer combo with cards that are hard to get isn't. it might seem unfair to you, but why should someone who's been playing for ten or twelve or seventeen years have to limit themselves if they have the cards? granted, I dont have most of the cards that I used to because I sold them for really good fucking money (i got rid of a power nine in the mid 2000s and took a trip around the world; paid for my way out here to AZ from FL with a couple other alpha and beta cards). i only play standard now, but that's because I'm rebuilding my collection for the third time.

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darksteel pendant + phylactery lich + diplomatic immunity

UsaSatsui wrote:

aeonic wrote: [ignore]jonsnow[/ignore] darksteel pendant + phylactery lich + diplomatic immunity Not really a combo, I think, just some cards that work well together. Also, one card less, a bit more effective: Phylactery Lich + Mycosynth Lattice. Safest place for that phylactery is on himself.

depends on your definition of effective. unless you're playing a deck that generates mana really quick, the earliest you can get the lich out is what, round 7 using that combo? a 5/5 indestructable on turn 3 is a lot scarier than 7, especially if your opponent isn't running blue bounce or white exile cards. since artifact removal isn't huge in most decks and likely won't be until scars of mirrodin comes out, i'd be more tempted for the quick lich kill, but then, i'm working on a deck that runs four. what can i say, i really love that card