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anorexorcist
Title: Polar Bear
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 07:36 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I was supposed to chill with someone the other night and this bitch from out of town didn't want me there, i could have gone and chilled with other people but wanted to chill with this one friend so I didn't go cuz of this hoe.

She has had an abortion, is it ok for me to proceed in calling her a baby killer?


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ged1928
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 07:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If you are asking if you will be killed by a bolt of lightning on the spot, then I guess you could get away with it, but if you are asking if you can call someone that and still have any dignity, or respect from a decent person, then no. Obviously you think its funny/acceptable to begin with, so I guess you don't really care much about others
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 07:50 pm Reply with quote Back to top

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She has had an abortion, is it ok for me to proceed in calling her a baby killer?


You really have to ask? Seriously, why the hell would you think that was "OK"?

Unless you put the kid in her yourself, it's not your business anyways.
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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 07:52 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Oh, I care about others, just not this cunt in particular. You'd have to know me to understand, I can be a very compassionate, empathetic, supportive human being and then I can be an evil, spiteful, malicious, soulless prick.

EDIT: religious people do it to total strangers, I legimately hate this person.

You are saying if I put the child there and begged her for hours on end to keep my child that it would be ok?


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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's simple. You could call her a baby-killer and be a d-bag, or you could be an adult and just disregard her if you don't like her.


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anorexorcist
Title: Polar Bear
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

When do you become an adult? is it 18, 19,20 or 21? I mean, i am just about 17, I know it's not the mature thing and I've always been told I am mature for my age, but soon I will kind of have to be mature. So I have about a year left where being immature can be put up with, why not use it?


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JRA
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:34 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know man. For me babies + death = hard-on. If you were to call me a baby-killer, I'd be flattered.

anorexorcist wrote:
When do you become an adult? is it 18, 19,20 or 21? I mean, i am just about 17, I know it's not the mature thing and I've always been told I am mature for my age, but soon I will kind of have to be mature. So I have about a year left where being immature can be put up with, why not use it?


I'm 23 and even though I can be tried as an adult, I don't consider myself an adult. Not by a longshot.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

anorexorcist wrote:
Oh, I care about others, just not this cunt in particular. You'd have to know me to understand, I can be a very compassionate, empathetic, supportive human being and then I can be an evil, spiteful, malicious, soulless prick.

EDIT: religious people do it to total strangers, I legimately hate this person.

You are saying if I put the child there and begged her for hours on end to keep my child that it would be ok?


Do you -really- want to sink to the level of militant Catholics? Really?

And what I meant is that abortion is a private matter, and if you're not involved, you shouldn't bring it up, unless you want to earn the disgust of everyone within earshot.
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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I didn't say I wasn't involved. The only people that would be disgusted are people I don't particularly like including her teenage mother sister, so that's not much of a concern. Having her psychotic sister actually murder me is however a possibility.


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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

anorexorcist wrote:
I didn't say I wasn't involved. The only people that would be disgusted are people I don't particularly like including her teenage mother sister, so that's not much of a concern. Having her psychotic sister actually murder me is however a possibility.


Well, whatever. The fact that you're asking in the first place tells me that you know it's wrong, but you're gonna do it anyways.

Go nuts. Just know that's an extremely classless and disgusting move.
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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 08:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it Smile.


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Rycona
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 10:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I love how you started a thread based on whether or not you should call some chick a baby killer because she had an abortion, and then when advice is given, you keep disregarding any of it and interjecting your own excuses about when someone is an adult and that there are these variables that factor into your behavior and your knowledge of/relationship with this girl,l as if we're supposed to know that right off the bat. You want to bring a generally non-acceptable social theory to the table for discussion, fine, but don't start making excuses just because people are a little rough with their responses when essentially trying to help you.

It's like calling someone a "foodwaster" because they don't keep leftovers. You might think, "Well, that's not as bad as having an abortion," but I would beg to differ. Think of how many people are starving in Africa and how much nourishment they could get from most people's leftovers. That would live many more lives lost than this one baby, which, as far as we, isn't even an entity that's capable of acknowledging its circumstances, where as children who have the potential to be future leaders and innovators never get that chance while we toss away our unwanted food.

Also, if this person is so terrible, maybe you should think of it as a good thing that she didn't have the child and raise it by her "poor" standards, so maybe that's one less child that has to go through the system. Perhaps you should thank her for not placing another potential juvenile delinquent who just needs attention and discipline on the working backs of everyone else, including yourself (if/whenever you work).

There are a lot of ways you can look at this, but if you are seriously propositioning this board as to whether or not you can judge someone so harshly from such a narrow perspective and then make excuses fo yourself if you're contradicted in theory, then you're probably not an adult.


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anorexorcist
Title: Polar Bear
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PostPosted: Oct 12 2008 11:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Holy shit, that's brilliant, I actually might thank her for having an abortion.


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Burt Reynolds
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 12:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think it's funny how you got onto megaman for asking for attention... i believe it was in a motivational poster thread, yet this thread is clearly a means to draw attention to yourself. Say whatever you want to say to this person, this is hardly the place to get approval for this. I would be seriously socially crippled, if I had to refer to a message board for approval of my interactions with other people irl. But to answer the real question your asking in this thread; no the joke really isn't that funny... not so much the classlessness of it, because I am definitely fine with low-brow humor, it's just not clever at all. Try to make fun of something more obscure, or just suck it up and be an adult.


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anorexorcist
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 12:27 am Reply with quote Back to top

I didn't say anything to her, I suppose it was a poor idea but I still like Ryconas suggestion of thanking her.

Why tell me to be an adult when I'm not though? I know we're all supposed to try and act like adults but we don't always and I'm a child so why should I act like an adult?

Plus, you guys probably feel like better people now 'cause I made myself look so bad.

What would you suggest as a more clever dig at someone around this situation Burt? and she's not that intelligent so if i was aiming to really hurt by saying something I'd say something like that wich she will fully understand not something more obscure, 'cause if she doesn't get it then the point of making fun of her is moot.


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Rycona
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 12:42 am Reply with quote Back to top

No one is an immaculate "adult." We all cave to some demon of our childhood one way or another usually. Sometimes it's some harmless video games... other times, it can be locking random animals up in abandoned refrigerators until they suffocate. Adulthood is relative, and maturity counts most in situations that call for it. Social consensus would state morally that name-calling isn't appropriate in serious matters and is considered low brow. Another thing to think about is the fact that this is a girl that had a living being growing inside of her, sharing her genes, her blood, and nearly her every choice. She either had a damn good reason to abort the pregnancy, or she ultimately made a mistake which will likely haunt her for the rest of her life, unneeded to be compounded by the harsh expression of judgmental attitudes provided by people who have made mistakes of their own. These people include everyone, with a selective subgroup of anyone ever.


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Burt Reynolds
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 12:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Like Rycona stated, the be an adult is more figurative than literal. I understand that you are a child still, but I think the fact that you asked us whether it was ok, shows that you can conceptualize morality and can see that the comment may have detrimental effects on both you and the person it's aimed to. So what I'm saying is don't bother, it is the mature thing to do, and won't compromise your face to others and will not potentially hurt the person you directed the comment to. Also, I do not know the girl, so I don't know that I could give you suggestions on something wittier to say to her, and to me sometimes throwing a jab at somebody that is over their head can be even more satisfying and hilarious.


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 08:16 am Reply with quote Back to top

She's from out of and that night has already passed, so when would you even have occasion to call her names? If you were going to actively seek someone out just to yell petty insults at them, you shouldn't need to be told that it's not ok.


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Blackout
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 04:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rycona wrote:
it can be locking random animals up in abandoned refrigerators until they suffocate.

WHAT!?



 
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Rycona
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 04:51 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Blackout wrote:
Rycona wrote:
it can be locking random animals up in abandoned refrigerators until they suffocate.

WHAT!?

A reference to Patrick Hocksetter from Stephen King's It. The entity missing most from the movie in my mind, but then showing him would've added more time and the movie was already long enough.. not that the movie was that great to begin with.


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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 05:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If you think it'll make her cry, and you really want to hurt her, go for it.

If you think she's secure about her decision to terminate her pregnancy, then there's really no point.

But either way, know this: if you say it, a line is going to be drawn, sides will be taken, and you will very likely lose some friends forever.
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 07:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'd say don't get involved on that level, if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all, you've got better things to be doing in life. Smile



 
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 07:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Short answer: No.

Long answer: What everyone else said.
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You know, as I prepare to watch Chuck, Heroes, and what is possibly Christian Slater's final shot at saving his career, I can't help but more fully reflect on what a terrible idea calling her a baby killer is. You see, I once did a similar thing, and it is something I still regret to this day.

The time was junior high, and it was not a very pleasant time for me. While I would come into my own in high school and win over all of my peers that mattered, I was bullied pretty fiercely in junior high, and for no real reason. I was good at school, I was fairly quiet, and I hated Nirvana, so apparently that made it okay to shove me into lockers and whip tennis balls at me in gym class. Fine, whatever.

There was this one kid, let's call him JT Channing, who was an especially massive asshole. I don't know what the fuck his problem was, but he used to spend a large portion of his school day and free time shoving me into lockers, tripping me, knocking books out of my hand in the halls, and mocking me. It really, really fucking sucked.

Cut to the summer between 7th and 8th grade. There was popular trend where kids would have pegs installed on the back of their bikes so that they could take passengers places. So JT was hanging out with this other kid who had these pegs on his bike, and he decided he wanted to ride the kid's bike. So he gets on, then the other kid stands on the pegs, grab's JT's shoulders, and off they go. Well JT is gunning it down Main Street and he hits a pothole, and the other kid goes flying off the bike and rolls under a moving MBTA bus. He dies.

Cut back to 8th grade. JT is still a miserable worthless prick, only now he's even worse because he's dealing with the guilt of accidentally killing his friend. So he pushes me around even more. One day we're on a school bus getting back from a field trip and I'm standing, waiting to file into the line of students moving off the bus. He pushes me back into my seat, spits on me, and tells me I suck. So at that point, after a year and a half of unprovoked aggression, I've had it. I look him dead in the eyes and say: "Maybe I suck, but at least I'm not a killer."

The few people who hear me say it gasp. JT looks at me again, his eyes welling up with tears, tells me I'm fucking dead, and runs off the bus.

After that, things were even worse. He even came to my house with a baseball bat when my parents weren't home and I locked myself in the bathroom while my brother lied to him and told him I wasn't home. Eventually the school's assistant principal had to sit us down and resolve the situation. It was not a fun time.

And here's the thing. JT absolutely deserved what I said to him. He was horrible person and he treated me horribly. And I thought making him feel the same sort of pain he caused me, if only for a moment, would make me feel better. It didn't. Instead, it made me feel worse. I had allowed myself to be brought down to his level of ignorance, misery, and hatred and it was nauseating. And up until that point, I had always believed myself to be a good person who was the victim of random, unnecessary violence. After I said that, I no longer was. I was just as awful and cruel as him, and every time he shoved me into a locker, I couldn't help but feel I deserved it... and I did.

I wish I had just followed the conventional wisdom. They say that you should just ignore bullies and take the beatings because bullies get what they deserve in the end. I never really believed that. Well, JT did. He lost both his balls to cancer. I guess karma really is a bitch.
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Blackout
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PostPosted: Oct 13 2008 09:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
You know, as I prepare to watch Chuck, Heroes, and what is possibly Christian Slater's final shot at saving his career, I can't help but more fully reflect on what a terrible idea calling her a baby killer is. You see, I once did a similar thing, and it is something I still regret to this day.

The time was junior high, and it was not a very pleasant time for me. While I would come into my own in high school and win over all of my peers that mattered, I was bullied pretty fiercely in junior high, and for no real reason. I was good at school, I was fairly quiet, and I hated Nirvana, so apparently that made it okay to shove me into lockers and whip tennis balls at me in gym class. Fine, whatever.

There was this one kid, let's call him JT Channing, who was an especially massive asshole. I don't know what the fuck his problem was, but he used to spend a large portion of his school day and free time shoving me into lockers, tripping me, knocking books out of my hand in the halls, and mocking me. It really, really fucking sucked.

Cut to the summer between 7th and 8th grade. There was popular trend where kids would have pegs installed on the back of their bikes so that they could take passengers places. So JT was hanging out with this other kid who had these pegs on his bike, and he decided he wanted to ride the kid's bike. So he gets on, then the other kid stands on the pegs, grab's JT's shoulders, and off they go. Well JT is gunning it down Main Street and he hits a pothole, and the other kid goes flying off the bike and rolls under a moving MBTA bus. He dies.

Cut back to 8th grade. JT is still a miserable worthless prick, only now he's even worse because he's dealing with the guilt of accidentally killing his friend. So he pushes me around even more. One day we're on a school bus getting back from a field trip and I'm standing, waiting to file into the line of students moving off the bus. He pushes me back into my seat, spits on me, and tells me I suck. So at that point, after a year and a half of unprovoked aggression, I've had it. I look him dead in the eyes and say: "Maybe I suck, but at least I'm not a killer."

The few people who hear me say it gasp. JT looks at me again, his eyes welling up with tears, tells me I'm fucking dead, and runs off the bus.

After that, things were even worse. He even came to my house with a baseball bat when my parents weren't home and I locked myself in the bathroom while my brother lied to him and told him I wasn't home. Eventually the school's assistant principal had to sit us down and resolve the situation. It was not a fun time.

And here's the thing. JT absolutely deserved what I said to him. He was horrible person and he treated me horribly. And I thought making him feel the same sort of pain he caused me, if only for a moment, would make me feel better. It didn't. Instead, it made me feel worse. I had allowed myself to be brought down to his level of ignorance, misery, and hatred and it was nauseating. And up until that point, I had always believed myself to be a good person who was the victim of random, unnecessary violence. After I said that, I no longer was. I was just as awful and cruel as him, and every time he shoved me into a locker, I couldn't help but feel I deserved it... and I did.

I wish I had just followed the conventional wisdom. They say that you should just ignore bullies and take the beatings because bullies get what they deserve in the end. I never really believed that. Well, JT did. He lost both his balls to cancer. I guess karma really is a bitch.

Damn dude! Sad



 
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