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Posted: Oct 11 2008 08:36 pm

So, who is still obsessed with the old RPGs?

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/12/3/1624050/fortunesmiles.jpg

I am of the belief that Crystalis is the best action/RPG on the NES. While 'Final Fantasy I' owns to the best 'PURE' RPG, and 'Dragon Warrior' (which cost about $5 at Toys R Us before SNES predominated the gaming market) was great, both were indisputedly awesome. FFI included those charts of the enemies, weps/armor, and the maps of up to the Gurgu Volcanoe.

New games are overkill.

PS
Thank you Syd, for your latest article "50 NES Quotes Every Gamer Should Know", for jogging my memory. Great games.

PPS
Don't forget the Ultima Underworld games for the pc. Great games too, post-80s.

Posted: Oct 11 2008 08:58 pm

I'm obsessed with more of the SNES RPGS, but NES RPGS are great too. I'd say CT is the best Action RPG on SNES and FFVI the American version is the best Pure RPG on the SNES.

Posted: Oct 11 2008 09:21 pm

Great Response.

My Youtube Channel · Posted: Oct 11 2008 09:25 pm

I invented this RPG for my calculator. You input "1+1" to start the program and you hit enter every time you want to simulate a battle. The resulting number tracks your experience. When you get to 1 million you are strong enough to defeat the dragon and win the game.

Posted: Oct 11 2008 09:27 pm

Super Mario RPG was a great RPG, but it just can't level up to FFIII/FFVI or Chrono Trigger in epicness. Chrono Trigger is just addicting and it has about 13 endings.

Posted: Oct 11 2008 11:35 pm

M3GA MAN wrote:

Super Mario RPG was a great RPG, but it just can't level up to FFIII/FFVI or Chrono Trigger in epicness. Chrono Trigger is just addicting and it has about 13 endings.

Yeah, Chrono Trigger is pure greatness. I still play FF III (VI) and The Legend of Zelda a Link to the Past at least once a year. Anyone play ol' crpg's? I loved the Fallout and Baldur's Gate series.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 12:30 am

Who else is obsessed with huge, pixelated, horribly cropped, overly huge bullshit images?

Posted: Oct 12 2008 12:50 am

Since when is Chrono Trigger considered an action rpg, and what do you mean by a "pure rpg?" If you think about the nature of roleplaying games, video or otherwise, that is not really an appropriate way to describe Final Fantasy, which those who attempt to subcategorize generally call a jrpg,

Posted: Oct 12 2008 07:52 am

For me, best pure RPG on the NES is a toss up between Dragon Quest III and Final Fantasy.

Definitely agree about Crystalis though.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 10:22 am

I loved Dragonwarrior, but I never got very far because I never actually owned my own copy of it. I was always either renting or borrowing it from someone.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 11:52 am

Syd Lexia wrote:

For me, best pure RPG on the NES is a toss up between Dragon Quest III and Final Fantasy.

Definitely agree about Crystalis though.

DQIII was an awesome game, though I never finished it. So is FF, a great game. And Chaos SUCKS!!!/easy lvl up. [GXSZPKSV + GXSXZKSV]

ged1928 wrote:

and what do you mean by a "pure rpg?"

A 'pure' RPG is a game that can be played with the four arrow keys on a computer and four other buttons/keys. FFIV is a prime example. Also, 'Wizardry V' evoked a great response from me. I'm an old school D&D nerd...

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

I would consider a pure RPG as a game where you control the outcome of the story, your decisions actually effect things, and so forth. The only RPG elements of Final Fantasy is random battles and leveling up. It is an adventure game.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 12:33 pm

Definitely Sweet Home, for the Famicom. It had an interesting item management system that made some of the puzzles particularly challenging, plus the gore and chilling atmosphere really kept my interest.

As for American RPGs, I'd probably have to go with the first two Ultima games on the NES (particularly Quest of the Avatar).

Joined: May 22 2008 Location: Goshen, VA Posts: 6544

Ultima VII is one of the greatest games I have ever played.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 02:26 pm

Cam-win wrote:

As for American RPGs, I'd probably have to go with the first two Ultima games on the NES (particularly Quest of the Avatar).

You do know that Ultima: Quest Of The Avatar was, in fact, Ultima 4, right?

Posted: Oct 12 2008 04:45 pm

ged1928 wrote:

and what do you mean by a "pure rpg?"

A 'pure' RPG is a game that can be played with the four arrow keys on a computer and four other buttons/keys. FFIV is a prime example. Also, 'Wizadry V' evoked a great response from me. I'm an old school D&D nerd...[/quote]

By that definition, any game with an overhead perspective and four buttons is an rpg.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 04:57 pm

ged1928 wrote:

and what do you mean by a "pure rpg?"

A 'pure' RPG is a game that can be played with the four arrow keys on a computer and four other buttons/keys. FFIV is a prime example. Also, 'Wizadry V' evoked a great response from me. I'm an old school D&D nerd...

By that definition, any game with an overhead perspective and four buttons is an rpg.[/quote]

As will be learned, when fortune smiles you can't always take it seriously. Perfect role-playing game: Neverwinter Nights. You could deviate from the plot and PLAY YOUR ROLE.

FFI (and its contemporaries) was the textbook CONSOLE RPG. But yes, err... yeah... Yup.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 05:09 pm

What was that D&D or Forgotton Realms DOS game where you were in some weird alternate universe where all the technology was caveman level (bone and wood weapons leather armor, metal was rare and extremely expensive and heavy) It had human, elf, half elf, half giant, dwarf, and some kind of manits person as available races. Confused

Whatever that gam is it was a fun game.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 11:12 pm

Super Mario RPG and Earthbound are the only RPG's I ever loved. I have nothing against Final Fantasy though. After all, I've never even played one of those games.

Posted: Oct 12 2008 11:31 pm

SMRPG is sorta overrated in my opinon. I mean its OK, but thats its big problem. It's so OK that it just sorta wrecks it for me. Now don't get me wrong, I like the game, I just think theres so many better RPG's out there. SMRPG could have been so much better, if they made it sorta like Paper Mario, but without the flipping and paper people, I would have liked SMRPG a ton better.

Posted: Oct 13 2008 04:43 am

Dii Infer wrote:

Super Mario RPG and Earthbound are the only RPG's I ever loved. I have nothing against Final Fantasy though. After all, I've never even played one of those games.

Seriously, never? Don't take me wrong, I just am in awe. Never played even one of the FF catalogue? My hats off to you sir, solely for your base honesty on that regard. If you ever do decide to play an FF game, DO NOT, I repeat: DO NOT, play one of the GameBoy Advance remakes. *Snore* OH, sorry, I get so bored by the GBA remakes that I fall asleep even talking about them. Avoid GBA remakes like the plague or even girls with no money.

Posted: Oct 13 2008 01:21 pm

Dungeons & Dragon Dark Sun I believe is the world you were referring to Blackout. My buddy had that set and we used to play that way back in the day. The Mantis people were Thrikreen.

Posted: Oct 13 2008 04:48 pm

King wrote:

Dungeons & Dragon Dark Sun I believe is the world you were referring to Blackout. My buddy had that set and we used to play that way back in the day. The Mantis people were Thrikreen.

Ah ha that rings a bell! Awesome game, but I could never beat the final battle. I spent to much time robbing and looting every town, so when the government attacks I never had any of the allies I was supposed to. Sad

Posted: Oct 13 2008 06:53 pm

ged1928 wrote:

and what do you mean by a "pure rpg?"

A 'pure' RPG is a game that can be played with the four arrow keys on a computer and four other buttons/keys. FFIV is a prime example. Also, 'Wizadry V' evoked a great response from me. I'm an old school D&D nerd...

By that definition, any game with an overhead perspective and four buttons is an rpg.[/quote]

I remember back in the days when you had to use an entire keyboard to play an RPG. Like a staple of the Ultima series (From I -> VI) you had to acually type what you wanted to talk about when you used the "Talk" action on people.

Posted: Oct 14 2008 05:18 pm

*Type on keyboard*
"Command Invalid"
*Write message on computer*
"I cannot do that"
*Press key*
"You typed the following message"
Silly Knyte making up stories again.