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I was reading through the Super NES top 100 list looking for which R-Type game is the best one, so naturally I started from the top of the list. When I made it to Super R-Type, Syd's complaint was that one reason R-Type III was a better game than Super R-Type was because it was a lot more difficult. What the fuck?

Seriously, I don't understand the faction of elitist gamers that think just because a game is insanely hard to play, it makes it good. In fact, its probably the worst form of praise I've ever seen for a video game. Do people actually play Battletoads and be like "holy crap I can't get past this level, its ridiculously hard. Wow I love this game!" I mean I can understand a desire for challenege in a video game, but a game that's so hard you can't even make it past the first level doesn't sound like a game that deserves high amounts of praise, let alone a game I'd want to play more than once.

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Posted: Mar 29 2008 11:47 pm

Dude, Super R-Type is piss easy. I don't want my games to be impossible, but I do appreciate a little challenge. It's thinking like yours that changes health bars in FPS games to "Oh I'm hurt so I'm gonna crouch in a corner and suck my thumb until I'm magically healed".

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JEW wrote:

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I wasn't so much talking about the article as I was the idea of people thinking games being hard makes them good or fun to play.

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Char Aznable wrote:

It's thinking like yours that changes health bars in FPS games to "Oh I'm hurt so I'm gonna crouch in a corner and suck my thumb until I'm magically healed".

...what?

Posted: Mar 30 2008 01:11 am

Just like in politics, I must say I demand a bit of moderation in game difficulty. I understand making a game challenging, but I also think that making it so difficult that only hardcore gamers will ever see the third level is not only sadistic, but silly. Either make a game steadily scale in difficulty so the first level is tutorial-esque and the last level is the true test of skill or give me a difficulty slider so I can start on Easy and (hopefully) work my way up to Intense.

This is not to say that challenge alone ruins games. The Killing Gameshow is the most brutal, difficult game I've ever played besides Contra 4, yet it's also one of my favorite games ever. This is ALSO not to say that cakewalk games are automatically better.

I will admit, though, that I really appreciate it when my health recharges itself while I sit in a corner and cry.

Posted: Mar 30 2008 01:47 am

JRA wrote:

Char Aznable wrote:

It's thinking like yours that changes health bars in FPS games to "Oh I'm hurt so I'm gonna crouch in a corner and suck my thumb until I'm magically healed".

...what?

In halo, your HP recharges if you manage to not get shot for a while. I think its acceptable for some types of FPS, but I'm happy its not caught on in other games so you can develop a sense of conservation and pacing instead of going nova every encounter.

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RobotGumshoe wrote:

JRA wrote:

Char Aznable wrote:

It's thinking like yours that changes health bars in FPS games to "Oh I'm hurt so I'm gonna crouch in a corner and suck my thumb until I'm magically healed".

...what?

In halo, your HP recharges if you manage to not get shot for a while. I think its acceptable for some types of FPS, but I'm happy its not caught on in other games so you can develop a sense of conservation and pacing instead of going nova every encounter.

Ah. Well truth be told I've only played Halo single player two or three times and I didn't know that happened. Still I prefer the Duke Nukem way of running around looking for Health packs for Health bars.

Posted: Mar 30 2008 02:06 am

Super R-Type? Easy?.... sorry Char, I don't think you can put those words into an English sentence. I hate hate hate how if you fuck up, you're sent back to the beginning of the stage.

And I liked the ways you can recharge your health in Wolf3D... When your health is under 10%, you can recharge your life in the blood puddles.

Shocked

I guess that makes man enough to become vampires.

Posted: Mar 30 2008 05:07 am

Don't all R-Type levels contain some magical safe spot where nothing will ever hit you?

Posted: Mar 30 2008 05:18 am

All caps does not make you cool

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Red_Mage wrote:

All caps does not make you cool

I only do that as a sarcastic mockery of internet types. Very Happy

I should also probably mention that I've actually never played an R Type game. I was looking on the list for which game to buy first of the Virtual Console.

Posted: Mar 30 2008 11:23 am

JRA wrote:

I should also probably mention that I've actually never played an R Type game. I was looking on the list for which game to buy first of the Virtual Console.

If you wanna play it from the beginning, get the original R-Type in the PC Engine/TG-16 section.

If you want one to blow you away, go with R-Type III.

If you want a challenge, of course, go with Super R-Type.

There ya go.

Posted: Mar 30 2008 01:26 pm

Well, too easy for an R-Type game.

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Mr. Bomberman wrote:

JRA wrote:

I should also probably mention that I've actually never played an R Type game. I was looking on the list for which game to buy first of the Virtual Console.

If you wanna play it from the beginning, get the original R-Type in the PC Engine/TG-16 section.

If you want one to blow you away, go with R-Type III.

If you want a challenge, of course, go with Super R-Type.

There ya go.

Thanks.