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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 04:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17211

When I started that topic, I didn't focus on why it was started. It was started to discuss a topic of what it would take for you to kill someone who was bullying you. Could it ever be justified? It was started out of seeing all the shootings that occur due to "bullying".

Everyone knows that people can go too far with social cruelty. How far can you push the human condition? If you severely made someone feel like shit and they pointed a gun at you one day wouldn't you think at that moment "well I guess had this coming" or "damn. maybe I shouldn't have fucked with this guy so much"?

Even if you don't agree with revenge that leads to death what would be a bullying story that you could read or hear about that would make you say "fuck that bully"?

One story I heard that affected me wasn't about high school but some Black guy who was working somewhere where his employees would make constant racist comments towards him. He ended up shooting them, calling his mom on one their cellphones "I just killed some of the most racist people on this earth. These people had to die. I'm sorry.", and killing himself. When a reporter asked others about it one person responded something along the lines of "I don't blame him. The world is a better place without those people."

Society is more and more weakened by the extraction of all our threats/prejudices/hatreds. Some days I feel like I can't say anything bad to someone I don't know lest they come back with a gun and shoot me.


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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
Some days I feel like I can't say anything bad to someone I don't know lest they come back with a gun and shoot me.

Why would you do this anyway?


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

This one guy was coughing really loud and disgustingly (like making sounds where it sounds really flemmy) in the hallway of a school while class was going on that I used to go to. It was some old unattractive fat looking White guy. I wanted to go outside and tell him to stop fucking being disgusting and go to the bathroom or something.

That guy looked like he could be down on his luck. He probably wasn't getting laid. Me telling him to quit being disgusting could trigger him to...come back the next day and pull the trigger. You just don't know. People are so strained with the economy and everything going on, that it is much more likely for them to snap.


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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
This one guy was coughing really disgustingly (like making sounds where it sounds really flemmy) in the hallway of a school while class was going on I used to go to. It was some old unattractive fat looking White guy. I wanted to go outside and tell him to stop fucking being disgusting and go to the bathroom or something.

That guy looked like he could be down on his luck. He probably wasn't getting laid. Me telling him to quit being disgusting could trigger in him to...come back the next day and pull the trigger. You don't just don't know. People are so strained with the economy and everything going on, that it is much more likely for them to snap.

Sounds to me you just don't know how to be polite. You don't just immediately jump into dick mode to strangers like that, it's immature.


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Cameron
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:14 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
This one guy was coughing really disgustingly (like making sounds where it sounds really flemmy) in the hallway of a school while class was going on I used to go to. It was some old unattractive fat looking White guy. I wanted to go outside and tell him to stop fucking being disgusting and go to the bathroom or something.

That guy looked like he could be down on his luck. He probably wasn't getting laid. Me telling him to quit being disgusting could trigger in him to...come back the next day and pull the trigger. You don't just don't know. People are so strained with the economy and everything going on, that it is much more likely for them to snap.

So let me get this straight...
That guy had a breathing/esophageal/mucus problem because he wasn't getting laid?
You were going to go scream at him because his coughing was somehow his fault?
And I'm not condoning someone shooting someone else over something like that, but you definitely deserve at least a punch in the face if you're going to yell someone for freaking coughing too much.


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Being fucking gross and disruptive is immature. I am a polite person but that shit was really bothering me.

And there is nothing wrong with telling people that what they are doing is socially unacceptable in a harsh manner. The point I am making is that that could get you killed.


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:15 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Why do you point out that he was white? Are you racist against honkies or something?


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Cameron
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
Being fucking gross and disruptive is immature. I am a polite person but that shit was really bothering me.

Why don't you go to the "fucking bathroom or something" if it bothers you that much?
Vert1 wrote:
And there is nothing wrong with telling people that what they are doing is socially unacceptable in a harsh manner.

I would actually argue that there very much is something wrong with that. Screaming at someone because they have health problems and can't physically control them is just kind of douchebaggy.


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:18 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
Why do you point out that he was white? Are you racist against honkies or something?


I'm not trying to be racial -- I am just providing a full description of the person for you to picture.

Cameron wrote:
Vert1 wrote:
Being fucking gross and disruptive is immature. I am a polite person but that shit was really bothering me.

Why don't you go to the "fucking bathroom or something" if it bothers you that much?
Vert1 wrote:
And there is nothing wrong with telling people that what they are doing is socially unacceptable in a harsh manner.

I would actually argue that there very much is something wrong with that. Screaming at someone because they have health problems and can't physically control them is just kind of douchebaggy.


He didn't have health problems. He had phlegm he was hocking up and was too fat, lazy, and disgusting to do it somewhere that wasn't disruptive. I couldn't go to the bathroom because I was in FUKING CLASS.


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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:21 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert has trailed off into retard territory.


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Cameron
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:23 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
Because most of these school shooters are White. It's like pointing out that a White guy is more likely to fuck your kids (i.e. look at Penn State and the people who show up for To Catch a Predator).

Cameron wrote:
Vert1 wrote:
Being fucking gross and disruptive is immature. I am a polite person but that shit was really bothering me.

Why don't you go to the "fucking bathroom or something" if it bothers you that much?
Vert1 wrote:
And there is nothing wrong with telling people that what they are doing is socially unacceptable in a harsh manner.

I would actually argue that there very much is something wrong with that. Screaming at someone because they have health problems and can't physically control them is just kind of douchebaggy.


He didn't have health problems. He had flem he was hocking up and was too fat, lazy, and disgusting to do it somewhere that wasn't disruptive. I couldn't go to the bathroom because I was in FUKING CLASS.

No, he definitely had health problems and you were definitely in the wrong for wanting to scream at a stranger with health problems. Sorry charlie.


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sidewaydriver
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:25 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The school shooters are also kids with anger issues that play too many video games. They're so mad that games are too easy these days, they decide to take the challenge to the next level in real life.


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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:26 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
The school shooters are also kids with anger issues that play too many video games. They're so mad that games are too easy these days, they decide to take the challenge to the next level in real life.

So Vert?


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

sidewaydriver wrote:
The school shooters are also kids with anger issues that play too many video games. They're so mad that games are too easy these days, they decide to take the challenge to the next level in real life.

and from what i understand, they also make topics in forums that no one cares about.

also, he might have had some health issue going on. if it was gross... who cares? just let it pass... its not like it will happen every day that you are in school or every moment of your life. one small moment of being inconvenienced... just let it go.


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:29 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You guys are being fascists now. I can tell someone they are being disruptive in a mean way if I want to. In fact, maybe I did. Maybe the guy went home and got a gun and killed me. Maybe this is him talking to you right now.


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
You guys are being fascists now. I can tell someone they are being disruptive in a mean way if I want to. In fact, maybe I did. Maybe the guy went home and got a gun and killed me. Maybe this is him talking to you right now.

Maybe you should quit being a crybaby.


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not being a crybaby. I want to talk about good bullying stories that aren't pathetic and lame stories about some loser kid who shot someone.

I want the good stuff of how the bullies went too far and they had to pay...with their lives!!

sidewaydriver wrote:
The school shooters are also kids with anger issues that play too many video games. They're so mad that games are too easy these days, they decide to take the challenge to the next level in real life.


Actually the cause is listening to shitty Manson music. However, shooting guards repeatedly in the crotch in GoldenEye was a legitimate form of releasing anger that today's Angry Bird and Super Meat Boy generation are deprived of.


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:35 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
Because most of these school shooters are White. It's like pointing out that a White guy is more likely to fuck your kids (i.e. look at Penn State and the people who show up for To Catch a Predator).

Vert1 wrote:
You guys are being fascists now. I can tell someone they are being disruptive in a mean way if I want to. In fact, maybe I did. Maybe the guy went home and got a gun and killed me. Maybe this is him talking to you right now.


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Vert1
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

God dammit. I had removed that first quote, Alowishus. Can you take it down? Otherwise, I might as well name the thread "RACE WARS".


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well this thread got crazy really fast.

Also I liked how Vert capitalized white and black as though they were proper nouns and not adjectives.
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Cameron
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Honestly, Vert, it kind of sounds like you were bullying that guy who was coughing at your school.


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Vert1 wrote:
God dammit. I had removed that first quote, Alowishus. Can you take it down? Otherwise, I might as well name the thread "RACE WARS".


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

lol

this thread just went full retard


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Cameron
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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:42 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Alowishus wrote:
Vert1 wrote:
God dammit. I had removed that first quote, Alowishus. Can you take it down? Otherwise, I might as well name the thread "RACE WARS".


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Vert1 wrote:
However, shooting guards repeatedly in the crotch in GoldenEye was a legitimate form of releasing anger that today's Angry Bird and Super Meat Boy generation are deprived of.

That actually sounds more like the problem is you being angry, not everyone else not being angry enough. There's plenty of other games that people can Vent1 with.


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PostPosted: Aug 28 2012 05:45 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I don't know how old you are, Vert, or if it matters in the context of your story. If the guy was really bothering you, you could have asked your teacher if you could be excused, enabling you to confront the person who was irritating you and then you could simply say something like, "Could you please move somewhere else and hock up your phlegm? I am trying to focus in class and it is disturbing me." You could also have asked your teacher to do something if it was bothering you.

If you had gone out to confront the person in a civilized and polite manner and he was rude, then you can (and have every right, in my opinion) be rude as well and tell him to fuck off.

Even if the guy was hocking up phlegm on purpose he might not have been intentionally doing it to bother YOU.

Always be nice at first, then fuck someone up if you must.
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