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Knyte
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Title: Curator Of The VGM
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http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/Inventor-makes-machine-breaks-laws-physics/story-12305948-detail/story.html
Guy built not only a perpetual motion machine, but it also creates an excess of power.
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While the patent office will register different parts of the AOGFG, they won't allow the machine as a complete item to be patented.
Because it is claimed it produces more energy than it consumes, it is considered to be a perpetual motion machine which is the holy grail of scientists the world over.
The patent office will not allow patents on perpetual motion machines as they break the first law of thermodynamics. This states that energy can be changed from one form to another, but cannot be created or destroyed. |
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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I bet that he could file a software patent for a computer generated theoretical 3D device that breaks the laws of physics and then be sued by Apple for infringing upon the iPhone 5.
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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In this patent office we obey the laws of thermodynamics!
Seriously, every other perpetual motion machine so far has been a hoax. I see no reason why this one wouldn't be either.
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TheRoboSleuth
Title: Sleuth Mark IV
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yeah seriously guys, the law of thermodynamics is not something that you just break in your basement.
Its an axiom, we hold it to be true because if it were not the entirity of human knowledge would cease to function. We don't have a model for a universe that would survive its absence.
Its a fake. Stop getting crap science news.
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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
Location: Connecticut
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| Fifteen hundred years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow. |
You don't need to be Will Smith to understand that humans don't know everything and we are constantly learning. Our truths are necessary for the present and immediate future, however if we don't assume that we will be proven wrong, we can never progress.
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UsaSatsui
Title: The White Rabbit
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
| K wrote: |
| Fifteen hundred years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow. |
You don't need to be Will Smith to understand that humans don't know everything and we are constantly learning. Our truths are necessary for the present and immediate future, however if we don't assume that we will be proven wrong, we can never progress. |
Something else is true about 1500 years ago, 500 years ago, and 15 minutes ago - people trying to put one over on everyone by claiming they discovered the latest scientific breakthrough.
If this were legit, patent office or not, EVERY scientist on the planet would be on this guy's doorstep. Everyone would want a look at his designs, patented or not.
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| GPFontaine wrote: |
| K wrote: |
| Fifteen hundred years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was the center of the universe. 500 years ago, everybody "knew" that the earth was flat. And 15 minutes ago, you "knew" that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll "know" tomorrow. |
You don't need to be Will Smith to understand that humans don't know everything and we are constantly learning. Our truths are necessary for the present and immediate future, however if we don't assume that we will be proven wrong, we can never progress. |
Something else is true about 1500 years ago, 500 years ago, and 15 minutes ago - people trying to put one over on everyone by claiming they discovered the latest scientific breakthrough.
If this were legit, patent office or not, EVERY scientist on the planet would be on this guy's doorstep. Everyone would want a look at his designs, patented or not. |
I don't think GP was saying necessarily this guys machine is legit.
I think it was more directed towards Robo as in saying Nothing is Impossible. Things we think are 100% true today, could be 100% false tomorrow.
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Douche McCallister
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| If this were legit, patent office or not, EVERY scientist on the planet would be on this guy's doorstep. Everyone would want a look at his designs, patented or not. |
The fact that he remains anonymous would probably help deter that. Also I imagine that energy companies would fight tooth and nail to get this thing buried into obscurity, kind of like how the Cancer society would not fund nor support John Kanzius.
You find something in this day and age that would lose companies billions of dollars and you can be sure that it will never see the light of day.
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Drew Linky
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| Douche McCallister wrote: |
| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| If this were legit, patent office or not, EVERY scientist on the planet would be on this guy's doorstep. Everyone would want a look at his designs, patented or not. |
The fact that he remains anonymous would probably help deter that. Also I imagine that energy companies would fight tooth and nail to get this thing buried into obscurity, kind of like how the Cancer society would not fund nor support John Kanzius.
You find something in this day and age that would lose companies billions of dollars and you can be sure that it will never see the light of day. |
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If this thing works, coolio. But if it doesn't, then we can all move on. Nothing new.
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The Opponent
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If someone does succeed in breaking the laws of physics, would they have to go to trial?
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I'm not a bad enough dude, but I am an edgy little shit. I'll do what I can. |
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Mr. Spidersquid
Title: title?
Joined: Jun 28 2011
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| If someone does succeed in breaking the laws of physics, would they have to go to trial? |
We need to put bumble bees in jail!
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Zim: "I put the fires out!"
Tallest: "You made them worse!"
Zim: "Worse or better?" |
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i'll_bite_your_ear
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Bumble bees don't break the laws of physics. It was only the first impression of the scientist.
This sounds not plausible. It's not on the news or the newspaper that one of the main problems of humanity is solved?
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Ghandi
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I bet the patent clerk will be the next world renowned scientist now.
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Beach Bum
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You know if I found a way to break physics and it wasn't a bullshit hoax, I'd be on TV screaming "Suck it physics!" Since this guy isn't doing that, I don't believe it is true.
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Douche McCallister
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Typically you want a patent before you go screaming about how awesome your invention is. It's the difference between Millions and Billions.
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