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Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1037/974/Scientist_Builds_Working_Time_Machine.html

The link has some images that are worth looking at.

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What person hasn't dreamed at least once of returning briefly to a favorite era in the past or seeing a real glimpse of a fantastic future hundreds, even thousands of years from today?

Despite a spate of articles claiming that travel to the past is flatly impossible, physicists like Stephen Hawking and others say it's not.

And now an engineer named Vadim Alexandrovich Chernobrov claims to have accomplished what others say cannot be done—he's built a working time machine.

At least that is his claim. And he says he's tested it and it works. But there are some limitations with its capabilities.

Vadim Alexandrovich Chernobrov

Potential dangers

Chernobrov cautions about potential dangers. "Those who attempt to return to the past to keep certain historical events from occurring—for example, the collapse of the Soviet Union—would fail in the attempt and would run the risk of not being able to return to the future."

The engineer's amazing time machine is a metal sphere that looks much like some of the early Soviet and American satellite spacecraft. Outside it has a diameter of two meters and inside is housed a meter wide space that can house a time-traveling chrononaut.

The device achieves travel through time, according to its inventor, by utilizing strong magnetic fields that resonate about the capsule and affect the natural flow of time and causality by literally increasing or slowing the flow of time.

During experiments, Chernobrov has shown that very precise chronometers, synchronized before the field is energized, experience a significant divergence in time after one has been placed inside the time machine while the other is kept far from the energized field as a control.

The chronometers revealed time is definitely warped within the machine's magnetic fields.

Early schematic of time machine

First time machine made at Moscow Aircraft University

According to an article translated by Lena Ksandinova, "the first Russian time machine was constructed by the scientists of Moscow Aircraft University.

Chernobrov at Moscow Aircraft University

"To understand, how the machine impacts live creatures, Vadim Chernobrov, an experiment administrator, put cockroaches inside. The insects died. They modernized the machine and put mice inside. The effect on them was the same. Scientists realized what the cause of death was: on different parts of the body time ran with a different speed. They fixed the machine once again and put a puppy called 'Lunar Rover' inside. He was inside for 108 minutes. The puppy survived, but behaved like he was having rabies.

"Then experiments on people came. Nine scientists, among which was Chernobrov, took part in it. Instruments inside the machine recorded a 3 percent time shift, and changes in machine size. Experiment participants, however, felt nothing but moderate arrhythmia and colored circles in eyes."

The experiment with people was the most dangerous. Some scientists familiar with the experiment condemned it as reckless.

"We came to conclusion that time is 3–dimensional," explained Chernobrov. "So in fact we can move in time backwards and forwards."

Chernobrov with associate and small model

Details on larger model

As Ksandinova reported, a larger model of the time machine was built to carry humans. It was constructed in a remote forest in Russia's Volgograd Region. While the device had a low power capacity it still affected the flow of time by three per cent; that temporal permutation was measured with symmetrical crystal oscillators.

Artist representation of time experiment

At first, the researchers spent periods of five, ten and later, twenty minutes in the field of the time machine; the longest stay recorded lasted about half an hour. Chernobrov reported the volunteers felt as if they had shifted into a different world: "they felt life here and there at the same time as if some space was unfolding."

Is time being manipulated?

If time travel has, does or ever will exist then by its very nature time travel always exists. "What is troubling is that we have no way of knowing that they aren't already doing it. For those of us in the daily stream of world events, a shift in history might wipe out thousands of people and change entire governments. But for us, the change would go into our memory of events as they happened during our lives. That good friend we went bowling with last night might disappear before the next morning and we would not notice his loss. By the time we awake, the person never existed." [Link]

Notes from a pioneer

In his notes on the early time machine experiments, Chernobrov wrote:

In experiments on deceleration and acceleration of a physical Time in small closed volume conducted since 1988, among other things the effect electromagnetic of fields on space-time continuum was checked.

The experimental system for such effect represented set of electromagnets, are connected among themselves in serial and in parallel and installed on the globe-shaped surfaces. In various experiments from 3 up to 5 such surfaces, Electromagnetic Working Surfaces (EWS) was used. All EWS layers of various diameters were installed consistently in each other.

The maximum EWS size was about meter, the minimum EWS diameter (internal) was equal to 115 mm, that has appeared sufficient to place inside of EWS the gauges of the control and experimental animals (various kinds insect and laboratory mouses), to investigate the effects of converging spherical electromagnetic of waves.

Presumably you can reach Vadim Chernobrov through his website at chernobrov.narod.ru/

Chernobrov's complete time machine report, Experiments on the change of the direction and rate of time motion, can be found here<a/>.

Posted: Sep 09 2011 11:17 pm

every time I see time machine, I think watch.

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They fixed the machine once again and put a puppy called 'Lunar Rover' inside. He was inside for 108 minutes. The puppy survived, but behaved like he was having rabies.

sounds like he had transporter sickness...

Joined: Jun 08 2010 Location: Termina Field Posts: 1541

Yay! Now we can fuck with stuff we aren't meant to.

Seriously, I don't like the idea of time travel. Being able to fuck with the past and future. Wouldn't that seriously screw the universe/time-space continuum/whatever up?

Posted: Sep 10 2011 12:02 am

This maybe misquoted, but from the book series I've been reading: "Time is like a river... I just jumped up the flow, you can't change the flow"

But then again with what we've seen with Star Trek, Back to the Future and other science fiction films and books, we are boned....

Posted: Sep 10 2011 12:22 am

A time machine would come in handy for me right now. I would go back a few hours and smack that burrito out of my hand that has me feeling like crap right now.

Posted: Sep 10 2011 01:34 am

Has anyone else here read Planetary, specifically the 27th and final issue? If so, you'd know what would really happen.

Posted: Sep 10 2011 01:40 am

I heard a theory that the lower limit of a working time machine would be the point in time that the first time machine became operational. I guess it would be useful for finding people before they find you, but that's it.

I wonder what it says about his motives that the example he picks for a historical event that one would want to change is the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Posted: Sep 10 2011 02:18 am

Right now it says 24% of the readers of that article think it's a fact. Jesus Christ, Ghandi...the site's you frequent.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

... Well, we'll see. That's about all I can say on that subject.

Joined: Apr 13 2011 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27

Wait a minute, didn't i play an fps game with russian time travel crap in it recently? (singularity or something like that.)

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Klimbatize wrote:

Right now it says 24% of the readers of that article think it's a fact. Jesus Christ, Ghandi...the site's you frequent.

It came up on http://paranormal.about.com along with a lot of other "in the news" stories.

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

What's this shit?

Time travel is impossible and i'm pretty sure up to a while ago it was thought it could be only one way i.e. into the future via special relativity - at least i think that's the reason.

Posted: Sep 10 2011 06:53 pm

Ghandi wrote:

Klimbatize wrote:

Right now it says 24% of the readers of that article think it's a fact. Jesus Christ, Ghandi...the site's you frequent.

It came up on http://paranormal.about.com along with a lot of other "in the news" stories.

I'm confused. Did you just link a site with the word "paranormal" in it to add credibility to the source?

2011 SNES Champ Joined: Dec 04 2006 Posts: 1929

Magnetic fields can do whatever you want them to do Rolling Eyes

Title: Alexz Aficionado Joined: May 21 2008 Posts: 2889

Klimbatize wrote:

Ghandi wrote:

Klimbatize wrote:

Right now it says 24% of the readers of that article think it's a fact. Jesus Christ, Ghandi...the site's you frequent.

It came up on http://paranormal.about.com along with a lot of other "in the news" stories.

I'm confused. Did you just link a site with the word "paranormal" in it to add credibility to the source?

I was telling you where I actually found the story. More specifically this link:
http://paranormal.about.com/od/paranormalbasics/a/news_110906n.htm

Joined: Apr 13 2011 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 27

Alowishus wrote:

What's this shit?

Time travel is impossible and i'm pretty sure up to a while ago it was thought it could be only one way i.e. into the future via special relativity - at least i think that's the reason.

You mean aside from the constant travelling into the future that's done by everything?

Docinsano's Channel 63 · Posted: Sep 11 2011 02:16 pm

Man that is some of the greasiest internet diarrhea I've encountered for awhile. Ghandi, I award you with the Internet Diarrhea Award- the Ida. You link just won Greasiest Internet Article.

Joined: Aug 04 2009 Posts: 2515

Beldantazar wrote:

Alowishus wrote:

What's this shit?

Time travel is impossible and i'm pretty sure up to a while ago it was thought it could be only one way i.e. into the future via special relativity - at least i think that's the reason.

You mean aside from the constant travelling into the future that's done by everything?

You know what i mean asshat. I bet you thought you were the King of Comedy for posting that.

Posted: Sep 14 2011 11:14 pm

One thing I don't think people realize when thinking about time travel, is that you would not only have to make a device to travel back in time, but also travel through space.

Because if you were to travel back in time and not change location, then you would end up floating in space. Not only is the Earth in constant movement around the sun, but the sun is in constant movement around the center of the Milky Way. The earth has never really been in the "same spot" in two points of the time in its history.

Posted: Sep 15 2011 11:21 am

Knyte wrote:

One thing I don't think people realize when thinking about time travel, is that you would not only have to make a device to travel back in time, but also travel through space.

Because if you were to travel back in time and not change location, then you would end up floating in space. Not only is the Earth in constant movement around the sun, but the sun is in constant movement around the center of the Milky Way. The earth has never really been in the "same spot" in two points of the time in its history.

I hypothesize that, just as 2-dimensional inertia remains present as we travel through 3-dimension space, 3-dimensional gravity will remain as we travel through 4-dimensional time.

Posted: Sep 15 2011 11:36 am

So they tested with cockroaches and they died. Then they tested with mice and they died. Then they tested with a puppy and it became rabid. Then they tested on humans? I absolutely believe a story in which continuous failed animal testing results in them even attempting human testing.

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

Knyte wrote:

One thing I don't think people realize when thinking about time travel, is that you would not only have to make a device to travel back in time, but also travel through space.

Because if you were to travel back in time and not change location, then you would end up floating in space. Not only is the Earth in constant movement around the sun, but the sun is in constant movement around the center of the Milky Way. The earth has never really been in the "same spot" in two points of the time in its history.

It probably just sends you one county over with your wallet gone.

2011 SNES Champ Joined: Dec 04 2006 Posts: 1929

Earth travels at 30km/s so your time travel better be short Razz

Posted: Sep 15 2011 09:25 pm

i thought time = space. so, by building a time machine, youre also building a space machine.

or am i just simplifying that way too much?

2011 SNES Champ Joined: Dec 04 2006 Posts: 1929

Time isn't space, it's another dimension of space. I doubt it'd make you travel distance-wise, just like you don't magically raise into the sky as you drive.