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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:21 am Reply with quote Back to top

Okay, so my sister is graduating high school in early June. Her graduation ceremony is on a Saturday and her party is the next day, Sunday.

I had originally planned to skip the graduation ceremony, because it's fucking stupid. She's not valedictorian or anything, so I'd have to sit there for 3-4 hours to watch her get a high school diploma. It's not like getting the physical diploma is a big deal. A well-trained animal could get a high school diploma. In fact, the entire football team is graduating this year. The diploma is basically a piece of paper that says "Congratulations, you lived to be 18 years old. Good for you."

I don't see why I should have to go this. Her argument of course, is that she went to mine. Well, of course she did. She was a kid at the time and my parents weren't going to hire a babysitter. But I wouldn't have cared particularly if she hadn't gone, or if anyone in my family had gone. Why? Because it's a boring ceremony and graduating high school isn't any more of an accomplishment than getting out of bed on any given day.

Her graduation is inevitably in the middle of the day, and I'd have to take the whole day off from to go to it. So I'd be losing out on a pay day due to waste 3 hours at some bullshit ceremony. And then I'd sit around bored the rest of the day, wishing I was earning money.

I had planned to go to her graduation party, but then I found out her graduation party is bullshit. I had expected it to go from like 12 PM - ???, but it is going to go from 12 PM - 4 PM, because she decided to have it on a day in which she's also in a community theater production. So again, I'd have to take off the whole day to go to a four hour party. On a day where I could be earning 1.5 times my normal payrate.

I really wish she'd have her graduation party on graduation day, but she threw a hissy fit because one of her friends is having their graduation party on that day, and my mom gave into her. Ironically, I threw a much bigger hissy fit over having my high graduation party on graduation day, because like EVERYONE was having theirs that day and I was afraid no one would come to mine. But my mom told me to STFU, and my party actually turned out really well.

So my sister wants me to take off an entire weekend of guaranteed pay so that I can spend 8 hours over 2 days watching her ignore me and hang out with her friends. I don't think I should have to bother. Is that unreasonable? Would it be unreasonable to make her pick one day for me to be there? Or for me to pick Saturday, since I lose out on less money that way?
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:43 am Reply with quote Back to top

Honestly? You're being selfish. It's family, you sacrifice for them so you can be there on their big days. If you really, really, really can't get the day off from work, then you can't, but it sounds like you can, so do it and go to the graduation. It doesn't matter if you don't think it's a big deal, it's a big deal to her, and she will appreciate you being there.

I say skip the party, though, unless you want to go to that. You're obligated to go to the event, you're under no obligation to celebrate it.

Last summer, my brother got married. He lives on an island off the coast of Maine. It's a 4 1/2 hour drive to get to a 90 minute ferry ride, and if you don't make it there by 5 PM, tough shit. I had to take 3 days off from work (so I could get some sleep before driving), I was stuck in a cabin with my other brother (who sort of annoys me), his wife and his kids, my wife and I had a lousy time at the wedding and the party where we didn't know anyone at all, and when all was said and done, I think the whole trip cost me about $350 bucks plus 30 hours of vacation time. But I had to do it, because it was my brother, you know? And everyone did seem to realize how much of a pain in the ass it was for me to be there and they were real nice to me. Didn't change much.
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Atma
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:49 am Reply with quote Back to top

I would say:

1) How bad do you need the money and work? If you need it to pay bills desperately, then I wouldn't stress it. Sorry, but I have to keep a roof over my head and pay my bills. If it's going to supply your hooker and crack fund then make the sacrifice.

2) Yeah sitting through the Graduation sucks, and think back to when you graduated. You weren't excited and thought it was a big deal? Sure looking back we all know it was horseshit. But at the time, I know I felt like I was getting a Nobel Peace Prize. If she didn't care if you were going then it would make it real easy, but since she wants you to be there, I would attempt to make the sacrifice for the ceremony. Also, if you make it, you won't have to hear for the rest of your life about how you missed it and your an "asshole" in her eyes.

3) If you make it to the ceremony, all bets are off for the party. "I saw you graduate. I'll take you out to celebrate another day. We'll grab dinner as my treat" or something like that. Then schedule it at your and her convenience.

That's at least how I feel about it.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:51 am Reply with quote Back to top

What Atma said, It may seem small to you, but to your sister, it means EVERYTHING.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'd go to it if she wants you to be there like the others said. I personally skipped my graduation because I feel the same way about it you do, but did go to my brother's. You really have no obligation to go to any parties though.
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Sehkmaenzo
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 07:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well, marriages are one thing, high school graduations are other. Truth is, it's a big deal for her now, but there's a really good chance it won't be in a year or two. It would be a gamble not to go, sure, and you would likely have your sister mad at you for a few months. I remember my high school graduation, I made my brother drive me there and stay there, because I didn't have my license yet. He was miserable through the whole thing, and I thought he was awesome for doing it, but I don't think I would have minded much now if he didn't go, and in this case he was my only way to even get there.
But it all boils down to this. You'd have to weight in the money you'd make Vs. the annoyance you'll get from your sister and family (as it seems to be the case). I'd go if it was me, families can be a pain in the ass.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 08:39 am Reply with quote Back to top

Usa hit it on the head. Just go and bring some blow up dolls and a horn. Besides, it's not like 12 years ago when you just had to sit there, how many GB, PSP, cell phones, etc can you bring to occupy the time?


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 09:25 am Reply with quote Back to top

So the general consensus is that I'm obligated to go to the ceremony but not the party? I'm fine with that. I was kinda leaning towards that. As for the party, I'm taking her to Poison/Crue in July, so that'll make it up to her.

Honestly, I don't really care if she's mad at me. She's a traitor and she's made life choices I don't agree with. She, for whatever reason, wants to be a voice major. As someone with a completely useless major, I see no problem with this. But, she got into the music program at the unversity I graduated from and refuses to go there. She apparently thinks she's too good to go there, even though she has consistently had significantly poorer grades than I did when I was her age. She wanted to go to Ithaca, because her chorale instructor went there and brainwashed her into thinking it's the bee's knees, but she was rejected from the music program. She reapplied as a Creative Writing major as was accepted. So now she's decided to go there as a Creative Writing major, despite being a really shitty writer. Her plan is reapply to the music program every semester and hopefully get in eventually. But if she doesn't get it, she'll probably stick with Creative Writing even though she's awful and it's not what she really wants to do. She could be in her fucking dream major at the other school and still keep reapplying to Ithaca's music program. But no, she can't be reasoned with, and now it's too late anyway because the deposit was paid and the acceptance deadlines have passed.
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Atma
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 09:46 am Reply with quote Back to top

Sadly Syd, If I may say. Let her do her thing, she'll look back one day and either say "Damn brother, you were right." or "It all worked out in the end fucko."

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

But yeah, go to the Ceremony.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:01 am Reply with quote Back to top

Atma wrote:
Sadly Syd, If I may say. Let her do her thing, she'll look back one day and either say "Damn brother, you were right." or "It all worked out in the end fucko."

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

But yeah, go to the Ceremony.


The same thing sort of happened with me...

My sisters told me to goto their school, which had a Meteorology Major, something that I am ultimately awesome with, but I didn't go because it was the same school my sisters went to and I didn't want the teachers there to assume I was just like them. In the long run I should have applied to SUNY Oswego, because I regret spending 36 grand a year at a college where I'm receiving a mediocre education.

If she keeps applying to the same place with the same results, it's the sign of insanity, has she even considered applying to other music schools? I mean, there are a shit ton of them...

In any case, goto the ceremony, and damn I wish my brother took me to a concert...
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:11 am Reply with quote Back to top

Also, with the party, she's just going to hang out with her friends the whole time. I'll be lucky if she even says hi to me. Why should I have to be there?
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:13 am Reply with quote Back to top

You shouldn't. You're taking her to an awesome concert a little bit later on. Do the graduation, stick it out, you'll be fine and she'll remember that you cared. Slam mf'ing dunk.


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Atma
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:20 am Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, seriously. Fuck the party. Your not obligated to it.

Tell her you can take one day off of work, but can't afford both. So yeah, I'm at your Ceremony, and spin the concert as her graduation gift if you already haven't.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:54 am Reply with quote Back to top

I'd normally say it's her life to lead, but Ithaca? WTF? Does she want to spend her days looking at cows, buried in 12 feet of snow and drink at some crappy towny bar? You need to put and end to this immediately.

I have no idea what sort of creative writing can come from living in a dorm in Ithaca.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 10:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

For 1.5 times normal pay, I'd miss funerals. Tell her that in this economy, you can't risk losing your job by skipping work.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 11:37 am Reply with quote Back to top

You get your ass to that ceremony and you will like it mister.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 12:05 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I'm going to the graduation of one of my first friends in college this Saturday, even though we barely knew each other and never hung out. I do it strictly out of moral obligation since for a time he was my best connection to the school and everything it offered.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 12:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

It's no big deal. Just go dammit.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 12:19 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Syd,

my two cent, I think you should go.

You may not think it is a big deal right now, it's /just/ high school. But, to some people it is a major accomplishment. I took all AP and G/T level classes through school, and I dropped out and got my GED, i got a 97 on it with my eyes closed. But, even after that, I still went back, finished and got my diploma. My dad didn't wanna pay for me to walk because all that mattered was the paper, why did I wanna walk with a class that wasn't even my original class.

Well, the point is, that I had finished, I had finally done what I promised my mom I would do. I graduated, 1 out of 7 kids that got their diploma. I wanted to walk across that stage, I wanted everyone to be there and SEE that I had done it, yes I believe highschool is easy, and stupid, and I didn't see the point in it.

I think your sister may feel the same way, she want's to walk across that stage and shake the man's hand. And, she wants her whole family to see it. You should go Syd, I think you might regret it if you don't, even though it seems small to you, its a big deal to her.

sorry, i have experience with this, my view may be biased, but i had to beg and convince my own dad to go to his son's graduation, the only one he's ever gotten the chance to attend. And he would have regretted it if he had never went(he told me that)
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 12:24 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The only reason to go to the party is if by some off chance none of her friends show up... which I doubt will happen
That happened to me but in the long run, I only talk to one person from high school, the rest can go suck it
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 12:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Slayer1 wrote:
The only reason to go to the party is if by some off chance none of her friends show up... which I doubt will happen
That happened to me but in the long run, I only talk to one person from high school, the rest can go suck it


Or if you're single and one of her friends is hot, not a total idiot and legal. That's another reason. I was lucky having a twin, because she had to suffer through the same stuff I did. Neither of us wanted to go to our graduation.


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 01:37 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I would go to the graduation but not the party.

Graduation seems like a big deal, i dunno since we don't do it here.

Nevermind the blackmail/i went to yours you go to mine stuff. It seems like it could mean a lot to your sister.
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 02:20 pm Reply with quote Back to top

you cant get paid time off work? or at least half a day? so that way its not a total waste.

at any rate, i agree w/the rest. go to the graduation event. dont go to the party. maybe go before you head to work & drop off a gift or whatever and say hi, but dont stay.

unless you wanna hit on relatively hot 18 year olds


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PostPosted: May 03 2011 03:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

The biggest question is: do you work on weekends, or are you just calculating how much the time you're wasting is worth?


BTW, go to the graduation, skip the stupid party.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: May 03 2011 04:27 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I do work on weekends. I actually have some vacation time, so the Saturday won't be a bh deal.
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