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Posted: Apr 08 2011 09:02 pm

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Even though Nintendo's systems in the post-GameCube era have quite handily outsold the competition -- especially its handhelds -- Sony hasn't tired of taking shots at the Mario maker. Despite its own PSP garnering a fairly young audience (as evidenced by the recent "Thank You PSP" TV spot), SCEA President and CEO Jack Tretton has taken a shot at the perceived audience of Nintendo's handhelds, describing them as "a great babysitting tool."
Referring to the DS line of systems as the "Game Boy experience," Tretton told CNN, "Our view of the 'Game Boy experience' is that it's a great babysitting tool, something young kids do on airplanes, but no self-respecting twenty-something is going to be sitting on an airplane with one of those. He's too old for that."

He also talked up the PlayStation 3's 3D games and the NGP, as one would expect. It's his Nintendo bashing that is somewhat puzzling; the DS has sold more than double that of the PSP worldwide. It's an accomplishment that Sony was able to do as well as it did with its first handheld given Nintendo's long history of dominating the market. Sony and Tretton in particular likewise have a long history of knocking Nintendo and its appeal to the younger crowd, but when Sony itself has outright admitted that a significant portion of the PSP's audience consists of people under the age of 18, declarations like this stand out even more than they normally would.

Then again, Nintendo hasn't always been excessively kind, either.

http://www.1up.com/news/nintendo-handhelds-great-babysitting-tools-sony

other links w/in the story:
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/03/qa-sonys-john-k/
http://www.1up.com/news/nintendo-embarrassed-sony-microsoft-position

personally, i think this is silly that its even news. and secondly, its retarded to believe that the DS is just for kids. i think every household in the country has at least 1 DS, so that would mean that at least 1 adult in each household play that DS.

and lastly, fuck that guy

Posted: Apr 08 2011 09:24 pm

I'm 23, turning 24 in a month and a half, and I have three DS systems, including a 3DS.

Plus, I think Nintendo's 3DS will do better with the 3D than any of Sony's handhelds ever will.

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

Obviously somebody didn't talk to the marketing team before making statements. I don't own any Nintendo systems besides an SNES and Gamecube, but I've played a few DS games, and there seems to be a wide variety of good games that appeal to both Eastern and Western audiences, and a large range of ages (with a notable dearth of M-rated games). The guy's just making hype, keeping his product fresh in everyone's mind. His comments aren't going to destroy the DS or keep developers from releasing games, so let's all go back to our games and let him rattle his cage.

Also, I want to go on record that I don't care about 3D TV or 3D gaming at all.

Posted: Apr 08 2011 11:20 pm

He's just mad that a lot of the developers that previously gave a lot of support for Sony announced their support for the 3DS last E3.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 04:30 am

He's mad because Kojima's finally going to release a good Metal Gear game on a Nintendo platform.

He must've been pissed when he found out about The Twin Snakes.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 05:18 am

You know what game I just played for the Wii just now? That fucking surgery Wiimote motion game with shitty anime cardboard cut out graphics and god damn reading cut scenes. The only way I can hold a Wiimote that still while imitating making a scalpel incision is to actually hold the fucker against the screen, because that's how cutting things works. Fucking bullshit!
Starting the operation!

Posted: Apr 09 2011 05:40 am

Ky-Guy wrote:

I'm 23, turning 24 in a month and a half, and I have three DS systems, including a 3DS.

I'm 31 and have been using my DS every single day for over 4 years now. To say that it's a babysitting tool only for kids means that guy is wildly out of touch and is probably why the PSP didn't do very well. In fact, I'd go as far to say more 20+ year olds own a DS than kids.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 06:19 am

Blackout wrote:

You know what game I just played for the Wii just now? That fucking surgery Wiimote motion game with shitty anime cardboard cut out graphics and god damn reading cut scenes. The only way I can hold a Wiimote that still while imitating making a scalpel incision is to actually hold the fucker against the screen, because that's how cutting things works. Fucking bullshit!
Starting the operation!

Second Opinion, New Blood, or the newest Trauma Team?

Posted: Apr 09 2011 06:50 am

Blackout wrote:

You know what game I just played for the Wii just now? That fucking surgery Wiimote motion game with shitty anime cardboard cut out graphics and god damn reading cut scenes. The only way I can hold a Wiimote that still while imitating making a scalpel incision is to actually hold the fucker against the screen, because that's how cutting things works. Fucking bullshit!
Starting the operation!

You know that originally it was a DS game, right?

Joined: Sep 25 2009 Location: Bergen, Norway Posts: 395

He has no clue. More than anything, Sony appeals to teenagers with their so-called "adult" games, while Nintendo appeals to the twenty-something crowd that has outgrown the need for blood and boobs in every game to have fun. Nintendo makes the best games and the most interesting plattforms, and that wins over us who appreciate great games.

Joined: Apr 09 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3112

taterfyrings wrote:

He has no clue. More than anything, Sony appeals to teenagers with their so-called "adult" games, while Nintendo appeals to the twenty-something crowd that has outgrown the need for blood and boobs in every game to have fun. Nintendo makes the best games and the most interesting plattforms, and that wins over us who appreciate great games.

That's a little much. Mature (or mature-rated, rather) games can bring good things to the table that all-ages can't. Not to mention that Nintendo is just as franchise-happy as EA or Activision, releasing new games that look and play almost identical year-to-year, with a fanbase growing obsessed with playing the same thing or re-makes (not to say other fanbases don't have their faults).

Posted: Apr 09 2011 08:50 am

The fact that Nintendo appeals to younger gamers is actually one of its greatest strengths. Brand loyalty starts at a young age. You get them hooked early, and you have a customer for life. Plus, Nintendo has a well-defined set of mascots who stay in the public consciousness and are always on the shelves. Who are Sony's mascots? Jax & Daxter? Sly Cooper? When the hell was the last time they were in a game?

If you were born at any point after in or 1980, it's more likely than not that your first gaming system was made by Nintendo (keeping in mind that computers are machines capable of playing games and not game consoles). Consequently, those that stray from the Nintendo path are more likely to eventually go back than users who defect from other systems, for nostalgia reasons. No one has bad memories of playing Mario platformers. NO ONE. So when a couple of their friends say the new Nintendo system is cool, they think of all the fun they had back in the day and seriously consider going back, and then some of them do.

I think the biggest difference between Nintendo and Sony/Microsoft is that Nintendo creates gamers and those other two do not. Sony and Microsoft seem more interested in usurping established gamers from other than platforms. The problem is that stealing someone else's market is the same as stealing someone else's girlfriend; it doesn't last. If they were willing to cheat WITH you, they'll be willing to cheat ON you when something newer and shinier comes out.

Joined: Feb 16 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 329

I played my DS on a plane last time I flew. Those people around me got to enjoy my sweet Kirby skills.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 02:29 pm

Before we know it, they'll be accusing the older DS players of being pedophiles. Once a product has a stigma of being owned by pedophiles, you can't recover from that.

Joined: Sep 17 2007 Location: The Opium Trail Posts: 3475

sidewaydriver wrote:

Before we know it, they'll be accusing the older DS players of being pedophiles. Once a product has a stigma of being owned by pedophiles, you can't recover from that.

True, but there would be a massive backlash from corporate and public relations people, possibly Sony's own including. Sony is more likely to attempt a flat out Mario ripoff than say something like that.

There's also the fact that alot of adult women play DS games.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 03:32 pm

They already tried that, actually. Didn't work.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

Syd Lexia wrote:

They already tried that, actually. Didn't work.

Which one, the pedophilia remark or the Mario rip off?

Also, I go out of my way not to touch stuff by Sony in the video game department. Crash Bandicoot was probably the best thing they ever did and they fucked it up when they sold it Microsoft.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 04:18 pm

Yeah wasn't there that Animal Crossing Pedo remark?

Posted: Apr 09 2011 05:22 pm

Drew Linky wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

They already tried that, actually. Didn't work.

Which one, the pedophilia remark or the Mario rip off?

The DS = for pedophiles thing. Look it up. There was a news story awhile back about how pedophiles could talk to your children over Picto Chat.

Wizard Joined: Jun 12 2009 Posts: 4209

Syd Lexia wrote:

Drew Linky wrote:

Syd Lexia wrote:

They already tried that, actually. Didn't work.

Which one, the pedophilia remark or the Mario rip off?

The DS = for pedophiles thing. Look it up. There was a news story awhile back about how pedophiles could talk to your children over Picto Chat.

... What? They actually said that?

Well, any length to slander your opponent, I guess.

Posted: Apr 09 2011 05:37 pm

it wasnt SONY that said that. it was some cops in some town somewhere

EDIT:
http://www.destructoid.com/pictochat-more-like-pedochat-sensationalist-story-on-the-ds-and-pedophilia-49990.phtml

Posted: Apr 09 2011 09:46 pm

Wow, that guy is so ignorant it hurts. Not to mention hypocritical. Im 40 and I use my DS pretty much every day.

My DAD has a DS!

Here in Australia they use the Wii in nursing homes so that the relics there can get exercise.

Nintendo is for kids?

Posted: Apr 10 2011 04:43 am

Yeah really, my 88 year old Grandmother called me just to tell me about playing Wii Sports a while back.

Grandmother Blackout:"Hello Moosh Moosh! I just played an electronic computer video television game computer event called something something we bowl with young Elaine's latest child Chuckie, he's your second cousin you know! He waved that thing around and the bowler on the screen did the same thing, it was amazing!! Now deary, you know that when it's cold and rainy you need to wear a coat and carry an umbrella right? If you don't you'll get sick and die, because dropping body temperature is serious business, and you don't want to get caught on the wrong side of serious business do you? Okay goodbye, I'm going to an empty nester's meeting, you call us if you forget how to use common kitchen utensils , OK?"

Grandfather Blackout: Hey! How do you get a one armed Pollack out of a tree? YOU WAVE AT HIM!

Yeah old people play Nintendo. Pac-Man

Posted: Apr 10 2011 04:50 am

Fuck your grandfather, Blackout.

Posted: Apr 10 2011 04:57 am

If you're thirsty feel free to have a cold glass of Hatorade, Grandpa Blackout is a nice guy who helps everyone move and do yard work and fixes cars for everyone in the neighborhood, probably out of sheer boredom from being so old. It's not his fault he learned a bunch of racist jokes in the military, those fucking Mormons never reprimanded him about them! Life Potion