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The "this shit confuses me" thread.


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GPFontaine
Joined: Dec 06 2007
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 08:22 am Reply with quote Back to top

I know that I am not entitled, and that I am not supposed to ask, but given a mixture of events happening at the same time, I am actually confused and was hoping to receive some clarification that will hopefully help myself as well as others.

1. Are we done with the "This shit makes me ________" threads as a joke or is it part of an anti-general spam campaign?
* Happy: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3793&start=900#299306
* Pissed off: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3689&start=4525#299305


2. Sunday didn't make it, but Friday and Thursday did... also Thursday seemed like a messy day.
* Sunday: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15069
* Thursday: http://www.sydlexia.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15047&start=25#299247

Given that moderation is usually dished out in moderation, I am simply curious to know if what we are seeing is new policy or coincidence.

And to be very clear, I am not looking for specifics. No justification is necessary, just a map that steers us safely through what might be a minefield.



 
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
Joined: Apr 29 2010
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 08:57 am Reply with quote Back to top

I have no idea what is happening anymore.

That is not intended to be quirky or sarcastic.

I really don't.
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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 09:07 am Reply with quote Back to top

I really don't care either way.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 09:23 am Reply with quote Back to top

hell, he was in the mood to fuck some shit up. and i don't blame him for that.
it's just a forum anyway. it's not like we're doing some serious shit in here.


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The Opponent
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 09:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Incidentally, I think we need a thread for general things that confuse/amuse us that don't fit in the other "shit" threads.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:04 am Reply with quote Back to top

honestly... do we just start a new thread and hope it doesnt get locked? or was syd drunk w/power?


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:08 am Reply with quote Back to top

username wrote:
honestly... do we just start a new thread and hope it doesnt get locked? or was syd drunk w/power?

Watch your mouth, thems is locking words.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

pfft... easy for you to say Charlie Sheen


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:41 am Reply with quote Back to top

I was trying to make a point to a select few people about something, but I forget what that was. The happy/angry threads will bd unlocked before midnight EST, if not sooner.

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?
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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

Well it's just weird to see a spam thread in Music or Movies or something sit there for a day or two, and a topic that is actually generating conversation get locked after a few posts because someone in charge doesn't like it or it's "high risk".


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aeonic
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:48 am Reply with quote Back to top

I think that locking should really be used for general inanity that's posted for no other reason than the author felt like it. I think if it's a real discussion that's taking place, unless it totally veers off the rails, I like to see people engage in that kind of thing. Also, pictures of kittens = stays unlocked. I needs my kitties.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Josh, I don't check Movies/Music/TV as much as other forums because they don't have as much activity. If you ever see a spam thread in one of those forums, PM me and I'll take care of it.

And I would be inclined to agree with you.
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UsaSatsui
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I was trying to make a point to a select few people about something, but I forget what that was. The happy/angry threads will bd unlocked before midnight EST, if not sooner.

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?

If it's gathering laughs, leave it open. If it's gathering mockery, close it.

If it's inane and nobody cares, lock it. If it's interesting and at least one person cares, leave it open.

If it's staying civil, leave it open. If it's degenerating into flames, close it up.

Really, see FNJ's last few topics for prime examples.
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JoshWoodzy
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 10:58 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
Josh, I don't check Movies/Music/TV as much as other forums because they don't have as much activity. If you ever see a spam thread in one of those forums, PM me and I'll take care of it.

And I would be inclined to agree with you.

Yeah and to be fair, I've only seen spam threads last a couple days a few times, but it stood out to me because it was at a time when threads were being locked furiously in General Discussion and elsewhere.


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GPFontaine
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 11:29 am Reply with quote Back to top

Syd Lexia wrote:
I was trying to make a point to a select few people about something, but I forget what that was. The happy/angry threads will bd unlocked before midnight EST, if not sooner.

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?

Thank you for the info.

As for the moderation. I would like to just see the rules enforced. They exist and over time have been modified to fit the forum's style. Simply use them as a guide for post moderation. If it appears that the rules aren't working, then modify them on an as needed basis.

As for locking threads. If the original post is in rule violation, then lock it. If the original post is a good one, but the conversation has deteriorated, try to moderate it before locking. A simple warning "get back on track" might be enough, or in some cases, a red-text warning. If that doesn't work, then a lock does.

The most important message I would like to suggest about moderation is that interpretation of the rules is subjective, but the rules themselves are not. Locking a thread should not be due to a moderators personal taste in conversation.

Thread removal shouldn't happen unless the original post is hateful or destructive in nature. A lock allows people to still see what and why things happen. A removal just confuses people and causes unrest.



 
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Optimist With Doubts
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Joined: Dec 17 2007
PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 11:40 am Reply with quote Back to top

I agree with most people here in that if a thread seems to have several people interested even if it is outside of its intended use then leave it open. That is to say a thread that goes off topic, if people are having fun in it then let them do so and if it swirles out of control then re-steer it or then lock it.

I disagree with some people in the threads that seem inane or don't have much interest getting locked. If they don't have much interest they will eventually fall away anyway and maybe later people will be more interested.

I also don't think threads should be immediately locked if necroed, if it was a stupid nerco then the thread should be given some time to see if the original topic discussion resumes. If the thread just turns into a way about nercoing then yes locking it would be best.


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Atma
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 11:53 am Reply with quote Back to top

GPFontaine wrote:
As for the moderation. I would like to just see the rules enforced. They exist and over time have been modified to fit the forum's style. Simply use them as a guide for post moderation. If it appears that the rules aren't working, then modify them on an as needed basis.

As for locking threads. If the original post is in rule violation, then lock it. If the original post is a good one, but the conversation has deteriorated, try to moderate it before locking. A simple warning "get back on track" might be enough, or in some cases, a red-text warning. If that doesn't work, then a lock does.

The most important message I would like to suggest about moderation is that interpretation of the rules is subjective, but the rules themselves are not. Locking a thread should not be due to a moderators personal taste in conversation.

Thread removal shouldn't happen unless the original post is hateful or destructive in nature. A lock allows people to still see what and why things happen. A removal just confuses people and causes unrest.

I seriously think GP hit the nail on the head here.

Especially the Locking threads one.

And seriously Syd, Appreciate you taking the time to ask and see what people care about, when you really don't have to at all.
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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 12:32 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Apparently Syd is upset that someone locked threads. The last threads I locked were pure spam and had like 3 posts, so dunno wtf it's about. Regardless, my following point is far more important than any point you're trying to make:
Syd Lexia wrote:

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?

How about enforcing the fucking rules? You have penalties written down in the rules you wrote. Mandatory suspensions/bannings for certain violations. You have never once followed them.
Syd Lexia wrote:
Josh, I don't check Movies/Music/TV as much as other forums because they don't have as much activity. If you ever see a spam thread in one of those forums, PM me and I'll take care of it.

This.


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aeonic
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 12:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

While I can understand adherence to the rules, it's also a possibility at this point that the rules may need revision. While I understand it's Syd's site and you're a mod, it's also exceeded, I think, at least some of it's original purpose and may need some modification. Just an observation, really, but it might help some of the friction on the topic.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 01:07 pm Reply with quote Back to top

aeonic wrote:
While I can understand adherence to the rules, it's also a possibility at this point that the rules may need revision. While I understand it's Syd's site and you're a mod, it's also exceeded, I think, at least some of it's original purpose and may need some modification. Just an observation, really, but it might help some of the friction on the topic.

I agree that the rules may need to be touched up, but Jeebus is correct when he says that they must be enforced. If used, it will be easier to see how they need to be fixed. This is especially true if Syd is offering an opportunity to discuss the rules and moderation in the open.



 
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aeonic
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 01:12 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Well, I think that's a 'there you have it' right there. +1


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 01:17 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?

How about enforcing the fucking rules? You have penalties written down in the rules you wrote. Mandatory suspensions/bannings for certain violations. You have never once followed them.


You can not take the rules that serious. Just imagining that is pure madness.
The rules are an orientation for the users but they get not executed as they are written down. That wouldn't work for anybody.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 01:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

i'll_bite_your_ear wrote:
Dr. Jeebus wrote:
Syd Lexia wrote:

But I'd like to take this time to pose a question. What do you guys want in terms of moderation? What sort of stuff do you think deserves to be locked and what doesn't?

How about enforcing the fucking rules? You have penalties written down in the rules you wrote. Mandatory suspensions/bannings for certain violations. You have never once followed them.


You can not take the rules that serious. Just imagining that is pure madness.
The rules are an orientation for the users but they get not executed as they are written down. That wouldn't work for anybody.

Perhaps a rule about the misuse of the quote function, like how you just did, is a good example of a rule that isn't too serious.

A rule about trolling is something that needs to be taken seriously because without it, the mods do not have the ability to lean on something when they decide action must be taken.

A rule about hateful language allows the mods to "red-text" a post. The rules here aren't hard to follow. In general they benefit the average poster and allow the community to remain balanced. If they aren't real or rigid enough to be enforced though, there is nothing to stop a bad seed from sprouting.



 
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Dr. Jeebus
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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 03:40 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I've been on a lot of different forums, and honestly the ones with the most strictly enforced rules were the highest quality forums.


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PostPosted: Mar 21 2011 05:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Rules need to be followed, period. If they need revision, so be it. Strictly following the rules in place will show what changes you may want to make.


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