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GPFontaine
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ICANN has approved the XXX domain.
Official Documentation:
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/resolutions-18mar11-en.htm#5
http://www.icann.org/en/minutes/draft-icm-rationale-18mar11-en.pdf
The English version:
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/icann_approves_xxx_top_level_domains
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After years of wrangling over the issue, ICANN has approved the .xxx top level domain (TLD). The new registry will be executed and overseen by the ICM as it was last submitted in August 2010. The creation of this new TLD will create a section of the internet specifically set aside for material of a, shall we say, mature nature. But not everyone is happy about the move.
The fear among many in the adult industry is that they will be subjected to discriminatory treatment in registering new domain names. For instance, sites would essentially be forced to purchase a .xxx domain name to protect their existing brand. There is a movement to boycott the new domains, but many sites have already pre-registered sites with the ICM. It should be noted that no sites are being forced to use the new domains.
Some opponents of the change see this as an attempt to eventually push adult sites to the new TLD for easier filtering. There were a number of protests approaching the ICAN decision, but they apparently had little effect. |
I think this is a great idea. Porn deserves its own space. When people want it, it should be available, but it shouldn't sneak up out of the blue when it is undesirable. I think the xxx domain has potential to be a good thing.
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Andrew Man
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Yea, I don't really see how this could be a problem if it would reduce clutter and streamline everything.
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username
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i agree. it would reduce bait & switch bullshit, i.e. whitehouse.com vs whitehouse.gov
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LeshLush
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Yeah, but what happens if Vin Diesel runs for president? Who's going to protect me from accidentally going to whitehouse.xxx?
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Preng
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| LeshLush wrote: |
| Yeah, but what happens if Vin Diesel runs for president? Who's going to protect me from accidentally going to whitehouse.xxx? |
Well played, sir.
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Valdronius
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We need to start buying domain names!
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Syd Lexia
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An XXX domain is pointless. Porn sites aren't compelled to use it, and those that do will be punished with filter blocks. Hell, some ISPs may choose to block access to the TLD.
ICANN has no idea what the fuck they're doing anymore. These are the people that though .TV and .INFO would be great idea, and those TLDs because virtual slums. There is not a single fucking legitimate .INFO or .TV site. If there are, no one knows about them, because there are so many goddam spam sites using them.
There are only 5 TLDs major we need: org, net, com, gov, and edu. And then of course the country TLDs. Everything else is stupid bullshit.
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UsaSatsui
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
An XXX domain is pointless. Porn sites aren't compelled to use it, and those that do will be punished with filter blocks. Hell, some ISPs may choose to block access to the TLD.
ICANN has no idea what the fuck they're doing anymore. These are the people that though .TV and .INFO would be great idea, and those TLDs because virtual slums. There is not a single fucking legitimate .INFO or .TV site. If there are, no one knows about them, because there are so many goddam spam sites using them.
There are only 5 TLDs major we need: org, net, com, gov, and edu. And then of course the country TLDs. Everything else is stupid bullshit. |
I agree with this, actually. It's not gonna change anything. Just give porn sites another option.
For the record, Syd, .tv -is- a country TLD. It belongs to the tiny Pacific island nation of Tuvalu. They make a significant amount of money from it.
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GPFontaine
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Just because in the past something was used incorrectly doesn't mean it will continue to be used that way.
.xxx is the first step towards legitimate pornography websites announcing themselves as such. I guarantee that some will buy up their matching .com and .xxx addresses just to have a match. As some do, more will. Eventually the majority of sites that make money from porn will have .xxx addresses.
It may take a few years to do this, but once the majority of them have it, it is only a matter of time before the other TLD are reserved for non-pornographic content. I imagine that the major sites will keep front pages that simply point to the .xxx domains at that point.
This is years away from happening, and I agree that ICANN has been dumb about TLD distribution policies , but it doesn't mean that this is pointless.
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Syd Lexia
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| GPFontaine wrote: |
| It may take a few years to do this, but once the majority of them have it, it is only a matter of time before the other TLD are reserved for non-pornographic content. I imagine that the major sites will keep front pages that simply point to the .xxx domains at that point. |
As one of the board's resident liberals, shouldn't be against this? It makes censorship a lot easier. And censorship is almost always wrong.
I think the more important issue here is that .INFO need to be abolished. ICANN should force registrars to stop accepting new registrants for these TLDs effectively immediately and announce that they will be phased out entirely within 2 years of the announcement date. That should give anyone running a legitimate site on an INFO domain plenty of time to move their brand to a real TLD.
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Syd Lexia
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| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| For the record, Syd, .tv -is- a country TLD. It belongs to the tiny Pacific island nation of Tuvalu. They make a significant amount of money from it. |
Did not know that. I know .me is a country domain that has been licensed out to all the major registrars, and is quickly becoming spammy as well.
There should be stricter regulations on country TLDs enforced by ICANN, perhaps a severe limit on the number of registrars than can license them. Or perhaps non-essential ones should be phased out. DE, UK, and FR all see legitimate use, but if your country has less than a million, you don't need/deserve a damn TLD.
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GPFontaine
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| GPFontaine wrote: |
| It may take a few years to do this, but once the majority of them have it, it is only a matter of time before the other TLD are reserved for non-pornographic content. I imagine that the major sites will keep front pages that simply point to the .xxx domains at that point. |
As one of the board's resident liberals, shouldn't be against this? It makes censorship a lot easier. And censorship is almost always wrong.
I think the more important issue here is that .INFO need to be abolished. ICANN should force registrars to stop accepting new registrants for these TLDs effectively immediately and announce that they will be phased out entirely within 2 years of the announcement date. That should give anyone running a legitimate site on an INFO domain plenty of time to move their brand to a real TLD. |
Did you just call me a liberal?
And while I don't feel as strongly about it, I do feel that .info is meaningless.
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UsaSatsui
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
| UsaSatsui wrote: |
| For the record, Syd, .tv -is- a country TLD. It belongs to the tiny Pacific island nation of Tuvalu. They make a significant amount of money from it. |
Did not know that. I know .me is a country domain that has been licensed out to all the major registrars, and is quickly becoming spammy as well.
There should be stricter regulations on country TLDs enforced by ICANN, perhaps a severe limit on the number of registrars than can license them. Or perhaps non-essential ones should be phased out. DE, UK, and FR all see legitimate use, but if your country has less than a million, you don't need/deserve a damn TLD. |
Tuvalu can do whatever the hell it wants with it's domain.
And I don't see why we need to parcel them out to only the "cool" countries. Though I'd limit them to national entities. Christmas Island (the infamous .cx") doesn't need a TLD, and ICANN did recently take away the .um domain, which was used for the US Minor Outlying Islands, a collection of uninhabited and sparsely inhabited islands in the Pacific with a total of 300 people (all on one island).
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Syd Lexia
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.info was a poor idea. Actually, all 7 of those TLDs were poor ideas: aero, biz, coop, info, museum, name, and pro.
The fewer TLDs there are, the better. Adding more and more leads to web dilution and brand confusion, not to mention squatting. Plus, you need to be able to be found. SydLexia.com wasn't necessarily envisioned as a commercial site, but .com is and the most legitimate and recognizable TLD, and if you're not using .net or .com or a lesser extent .org, no one's going to take you seriously. The most valuable thing you can have on the web is .com with a catchy name. I'm not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure that due to the poor way the newer TLDs have been used, they get put at an immediate disadvantage in search results via algorithms.
I would argue that the whole idea behind TLDs is antiquated. A TLD was meant as a classification, and web users are simply not interested in that. They're interested in web content that they can easily find. The biggest side effect of TLDs is that is someone already registered a catchy name that you wanted, you can steal it on another TLD. Wish you owned Amazon.com? Well, if you're lucky, you might get Amazon.xxx. Of course, they'll probably take you to court over it and get a judge to make you surrender it, but you can try. But you can do it to a smaller site.
For example, here's Wordpress.biz: http://www.wordpress.biz/
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username
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yeah, Tuvalu is like Vanuatu in that their whole economy comes from the lease of their area code for adult entertainment lines & obviously their .tv domain.
i remember a lot of people calling in to AT&T because they would suddenly get a bunch of long distance calls to Vanuatu. obviously no one knew what that country was, til we told them that it was 'an adult entertainment call' made either thru their phone or the internet. those were good customer service calls.... bleh
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GPFontaine
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
.info was a poor idea. Actually, all 7 of those TLDs were poor ideas: aero, biz, coop, info, museum, name, and pro.
The fewer TLDs there are, the better. Adding more and more leads to web dilution and brand confusion, not to mention squatting. Plus, you need to be able to be found. SydLexia.com wasn't necessarily envisioned as a commercial site, but .com is and the most legitimate and recognizable TLD, and if you're not using .net or .com or a lesser extent .org, no one's going to take you seriously. The most valuable thing you can have on the web is .com with a catchy name. I'm not sure on this, but I'm pretty sure that due to the poor way the newer TLDs have been used, they get put at an immediate disadvantage in search results via algorithms.
I would argue that the whole idea behind TLDs is antiquated. A TLD was meant as a classification, and web users are simply not interested in that. They're interested in web content that they can easily find. The biggest side effect of TLDs is that is someone already registered a catchy name that you wanted, you can steal it on another TLD. Wish you owned Amazon.com? Well, if you're lucky, you might get Amazon.xxx. Of course, they'll probably take you to court over it and get a judge to make you surrender it, but you can try. But you can do it to a smaller site.
For example, here's Wordpress.biz: http://www.wordpress.biz/ |
I don't see a way around it at this point.
I mean, they are going to release the non suffix version of domain names soon and unless you have 200k and a massive company, you are fucked... but with other top level domains, what alternative is there? Do you want everyone to just hand out IPv6 addresses?
Also, don't skirt the real issue... did you call me a resident liberal?
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I'm waiting for .fart to come along so I can register www.clownpenis.fart.
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Syd Lexia
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I did. You're certainly more liberal than I!
I think we should be streamlining the internet, not diluting it. The web is a global community, and expanding TLDs is a way of segregating the web, and it's one that has been shown not to work. ccTLDs are part of this antiquated way of thinking. I really do think we need to phase out as many ccTLDs as possible. Some are too big to fail unfortunately (CH, JP, FR, RU, UK, DE), so there's nothing to be done about that. Other countries don't need them. The only real barrier that exists on the web is LANGUAGE. So perhaps we should have language TLDs instead. The primary language of Tuvalu? English. Doesn't need a TLD. The primary language of Montengro? Montenegrin. So Montenegrin should have a TLD. However, L-TLDS should be strictly enforced based on the language they are supposed to represent. What's nice about this is that many of the big ccTLDs (CH, RU, FR, DE, JP) simply switched over to L-TLDs. Ostensibly, AU and UK are the only ccTLDs that would survive. Pretty much every other ccTLD not associated with a language could be phased out.
What are IPv6 addresses?
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What's your stance on those test TLDs with non-Latin characters?
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GPFontaine
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| Syd Lexia wrote: |
I did. You're certainly more liberal than I!
I think we should be streamlining the internet, not diluting it. The web is a global community, and expanding TLDs is a way of segregating the web, and it's one that has been shown not to work. ccTLDs are part of this antiquated way of thinking. I really do think we need to phase out as many ccTLDs as possible. Some are too big to fail unfortunately (CH, JP, FR, RU, UK, DE), so there's nothing to be done about that. Other countries don't need them. The only real barrier that exists on the web is LANGUAGE. So perhaps we should have language TLDs instead. The primary language of Tuvalu? English. Doesn't need a TLD. The primary language of Montengro? Montenegrin. So Montenegrin should have a TLD. However, L-TLDS should be strictly enforced based on the language they are supposed to represent. What's nice about this is that many of the big ccTLDs (CH, RU, FR, DE, JP) simply switched over to L-TLDs. Ostensibly, AU and UK are the only ccTLDs that would survive. Pretty much every other ccTLD not associated with a language could be phased out.
What are IPv6 addresses? |
I would agree that I am more liberal than you, but I am somewhere in the middle, rather than the far left. Also, I tend to speak on an issue rather than a collective... which makes me hate political parties. I really hate the idea that just because people come to a consensus on one thing, it means they feel they need to also agree on another.
As for IPv6...
Those fun IPv4 addresses you love... the ones that look like this:
Pattern: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Example: 74.125.226.148
They ran out.
So, over the next few years we will begin to go to IP addresses that look like this:
Pattern: xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx
Example: 2001:4860:800f::93 or 2001:4860:800f:0000:0000:0000:0000:93
This is a big change, and eventually it will make your Wii's internet DIE!!! Well, in like 10-20 years.
The good news is that NAT will become non-mandatory for multiple devices to hook up from a single network feed and will only be needed for security reasons.
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Syd Lexia
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| What's your stance on those test TLDs with non-Latin characters? |
What are they? If it's Japanese/Chinese/Arabic/Russian, then yes, absolutely, those people should certainly be allowed to have TLDs that use their native characters. Greek, I dunno. Greek will almost certainly be abused.
The IP thing doesn't surprise. It wasn't well-designed. Even if it had been hex, they'd be running out by now.
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JRA
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I mean really, what other company is going to take the name whitedicksblackchicks.com anyway?
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Valdronius
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I am offended that .ca has not been mentioned in this thread.
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Andrew Man
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| Valdronius wrote: |
| I am offended that .ca has not been mentioned in this thread. |
Heh silly Canadian thinking they matter :p
but seriously, I kind of like the idea of a xxx TLD. It'll help filter out NSFW and SFW sites.
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