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Atma
Title: Dragoon
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http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/03/06/judgment.day.caravan/index.html?hpt=P1&iref=NS1
Really long story so I'll try to sum it up with Highlights.
-Religious Group "Project Caravan"claims Judgment Day is coming on May 21 and the world will end five months later.
-The Bible guarantees this, say loyal listeners of Family Radio, a Christian broadcasting ministry.
-Ditching jobs and families, a group that believes the end is near sets out to warn others.
-Loaded up in RVs, they travel across the South and face off with drunken pirates in Florida.
-On May 21, the sun will "turn red like blood," the Earth will open up, bodies will be strewn about and "some people will die for eternity."
This is how the leader "knows" the date.
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This degreed engineer, who calls the Bible his "university," believes the church age ended and the "Great Tribulation" (the years leading up to the end, he says) began on May 21, 1988, when Satan entered the pews. Truth, he says, can be found only in the Bible and not through the mouths of clergy.
He has dissected scripture and crunched his biblical numbers to come up with the fateful dates. He rattles off mathematical explanations of how he did this work, throwing out Bible verses and calculations that leave an outsider's head spinning.
But Camping also happens to be the man who once said September 6, 1994, would be the big day.
He explains now that he originally thought 2011 was the year, but a few verses tripped him up and he concluded that the Great Tribulation might get cut short. There was still scripture he was grappling with, end-time signs that were to come -- he points to the gay pride movement as one of them -- and truths that had yet to be revealed, "but because of the urgency of time I had to get it out quickly," he says of his previous warning.
This time around, he has no doubts.
"I know it's absolutely true, because the Bible is always absolutely true," he says. "If I were not faithful that would mean that I'm a hypocrite." |
Get your fun in now kids! only a couple of months left until hell breaks loose!
And I thought it was going to be in 2012!
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sidewaydriver
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Well that's a shitty warning. Two months? He could have said something after the 1994 date fell through.
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Blackout
Title: Captain Oblivious
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It's been a while since I've read revelations, but isn't there a part that basically says no one can know exactly when it will happen? Isn't that what is supposed to be freaky scary about it, bang SURPRISE!
Also, isn't there something in there that is pretty much a copyright warning, do not add to nor remove anything from this, so are they breaking the rules when they claim they have an exact date? Or am I rusty on all of this again?
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BlazingGlory
Title: KANE LIVES IN DEATH!
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Blackout wrote: |
It's been a while since I've read revelations, but isn't there a part that basically says no one can know exactly when it will happen? Isn't that what is supposed to be freaky scary about it, bang SURPRISE!
Also, isn't there something in there that is pretty much a copyright warning, do not add to nor remove anything from this, so are they breaking the rules when they claim they have an exact date? Or am I rusty on all of this again? |
Your first part is definitely right, but I'm not so sure about the second part.
As for myself, I tend not to take end of world dates as credible. I mean, come on, how many have been right in the past? They have like a 0% accuracy rating over thousands of years, so how can e take any of them seriously?
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Mr. Satire
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Fuck! Not another Apocalypse! I JUST FUCKING GOT OVER MY FEAR OF 2012!
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Jack Slater
Title: Friendly Felon
Joined: May 17 2009
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Mr. Satire wrote: |
Fuck! Not another Apocalypse! I JUST FUCKING GOT OVER MY FEAR OF 2012! |
*checks calendar* Your lack of fear seems a bit... premature.
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Mr. Satire
Joined: Jun 08 2010
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Jack Slater wrote: |
Mr. Satire wrote: |
Fuck! Not another Apocalypse! I JUST FUCKING GOT OVER MY FEAR OF 2012! |
*checks calendar* Your lack of fear seems a bit... premature. |
Well, that fear of 2012 took two years to get over! Why did I read that book that mentioned it four years ago?
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bassguy252
Title: Professional Malcontent
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Isnt the day of judgement supposed to come like.... a thief in the night? or something like that, like nobody is supposed to know about it, so why worry? if it happens, it happens, either we die or dont, life goes on
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 Let's assume it's a mixture of the two!
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BlazingGlory
Title: KANE LIVES IN DEATH!
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bassguy252 wrote: |
Isnt the day of judgement supposed to come like.... a thief in the night? or something like that, like nobody is supposed to know about it, so why worry? if it happens, it happens, either we die or dont, life goes on |
Or not, as the case may be.
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Ghandi
Title: Alexz Aficionado
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I've heard about the May 21st, 2011 "end of the world" take, but never really looked at it.
I'll get right on that May 22nd.
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
Joined: Apr 29 2010
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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If you read the Article, they're giving away everything they own except the stuff they need for the trip to spread the word.
So go get some free stuff kids!
Also, "if" May 22nd hits, how pissed are these people going to be?
"I gave up my Family, House, Car, Job, and all my Valuables for NOTHING?!?!"
I admire their faith. Or is it Gullibility? Either way. I don't think I could be as passionate about the "doomsday" as these people ever are.
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The Opponent
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Blackout wrote: |
It's been a while since I've read revelations, but isn't there a part that basically says no one can know exactly when it will happen? Isn't that what is supposed to be freaky scary about it, bang SURPRISE!
Also, isn't there something in there that is pretty much a copyright warning, do not add to nor remove anything from this, so are they breaking the rules when they claim they have an exact date? Or am I rusty on all of this again? |
This is why I stopped worrying about the end of the world. As for the second part, people are free to make their own meaningless guesses, but that's not the same as altering the holy word of God. I guess if anything, it would fall under bearing false witness, especially if it resulted in genuine believers wavering in their faith.
What I love most about these predictions is that they never take into account the fact that the calendars of the time of Revelations and the present day are entirely disparate, yet they are able to come up with exact times that fit neatly into Gregorian patterns.
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Years ago we learned from the Bible that the flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C. More recently we learned that Judgment Day is to occur in the year 2011 A.D. 2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C. |
I can imagine God deciding that exactly 2556750 days after the great flood, which He shall never again exact upon His people for all time, He will decide that enough is enough and surprise everyone except a few super inquisitive preachers with a calculator. Never mind that it only has one 7 in it and that it isn't the first or last digit, He works in mysterious ways, so the majority of us will never see it coming.
I took a class that studied the Old and New Testaments and learned that bits and pieces of them have been lost to time, so the Bible is not as exact and infallible as it could be. The current version of the Bible was assembled from a variety of sources including a few human records, to say nothing of the books that were excluded from canon. Even so, do you need every single measurement and letter to be exactly correct in order to believe Jesus died for your sins? Would it matter so much if the people who recorded the genealogies and lengths of kings' reigns were off by a few days? Death tolls in present-day wars are only approximations, so how could you believe that Samson killed exactly 1000 Philistines with a donkey's jawbone and not a single soldier more? Do you think he actually counted and stopped when he hit a nice, round number in a time when base 10 hadn't been invented yet? In any of these cases, what reason does God have for using numbers that roll off the tongue in modern languages? It's like these people believe that God really would be so kind as to make the calculation of the rapture easier by giving out human-friendly exact timings and numbers as opposed to unscientific approximations for something that man isn't able to predict.
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Adrenaline
Title: Local Canadian!
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WAIT! The dudes name is But Camping? Ahahahaha Thats rich.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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so, end of the world is approaching. great. let me stock up on... oh wait, the world is gonna end. nothing can help me. good luck
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Atma
Title: Dragoon
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Adrenaline wrote: |
WAIT! The dudes name is But Camping? Ahahahaha Thats rich. |
You made me double check the article and God I wish It was. But his name is Harold Camping. That line you're looking at though is indeed saying "But Camping."
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