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Vaenamoenen
Joined: Mar 18 2010
Location: Tuonela
PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 05:44 am Reply with quote Back to top

I suck at these games, but I'd like to get into em a bit. Is there shmups that are a bit more starter-friendly than R-Type or Gradius -games on the SNes for example? I unfortunately don't have the time to memorize everything from level 1.

It'd be great if the games were on any ps-console, pc, or older well-emulated system.
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PJX
Joined: Jun 20 2008
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 05:52 am Reply with quote Back to top

Super Aleste on the Snes is pretty easy, but very fun
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 07:05 am Reply with quote Back to top

Depends on what you mean by starter-friendly. Pretty much any modern console shmup (most of which are bullet hell) will give you infinite continues (because they're direct arcade ports, as opposed to SNES and NES era ones which were redesigned for console sensibilities) and respawn you where you died instead of at some sort of checkpoint. The reason for this is because most shmup players don't consider the game truly beaten until you clear it on a single credit.
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i'll_bite_your_ear
Title: Distillatoria
Joined: Jun 09 2010
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:15 am Reply with quote Back to top

Axelay for SNES is the easiest shmup if played so far, although the common opinion is that it is no easy shump.
It also doesn't matter, it makes no sense starting with an easy shmup.
Just get one and be hardcore. Thats how you play them.


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The Opponent
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Joined: Feb 24 2010
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 11:12 am Reply with quote Back to top

If you can afford it, the novice modes of Mushihime-sama Futari are actually very suitable for beginners. It's probably the only bullet hell shmup to understand the concept of "easy".


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lavalarva
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 12:03 pm Reply with quote Back to top

If you hate memorizing everything, play bullet hells, there's no need to really memorize anything until you hit the higher difficulties. Well, except for Ikaruga.
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 12:56 pm Reply with quote Back to top

define starter friendly. i suck at these type of games, but i have a blast playing geometry wars on the xbox and everyday shooter on the ps3.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 01:46 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Lavalarva is correct. The game he's talking about is a region free Japanese shmup for the 360.

DeathSmiles for the 360 is also a good one. Each level can be played on one of three difficulties, 1-3. The boss patterns on the easiest difficulty are easy to learn, and the bosses retain those patterns on the higher difficulties. The catch is that on higher difficulties, additional patterns are thrown in once they take more damage.

Raiden Fighting Aces is another great 360 title.
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username
Title: owner of a lonely heart
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 01:54 pm Reply with quote Back to top

you can download 1942 joint strike. thats fun too


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Greg the White
Joined: Apr 09 2008
Location: Pennsylvania
PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 05:08 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Darius Twin is one of my old favorites, and is starter-friendly and fun, as well as Fire Steel Empire for the Genesis.


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JoshWoodzy
Joined: May 22 2008
Location: Goshen, VA
PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 06:01 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Super R-Type. Come on people!


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Greg the White
Joined: Apr 09 2008
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 06:53 pm Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
Super R-Type. Come on people!

Not much of a beginner's game though. I guess it's made easier because it runs at a blazing-fast 10fps most of the time.


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Syd Lexia
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 06:58 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Ocean Commander for the PS2/Wii is good if you're looking for something easy.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 07:10 pm Reply with quote Back to top

there's a difference between normal shmups and bullet hell games, right? cause I don't remember Super R-Type or 1942 filling the screen with bullets when I was a kid.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 07:13 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah, there's a difference.
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PJX
Joined: Jun 20 2008
Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 07:39 pm Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
Super R-Type. Come on people!

Why anyone would play Super R-Type when R-Type 1, 2, 3, Delta and Final exist is fking beyond me.
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SNESGuy
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 07:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

MUSHA is hard but i enjoy it, its on genesis


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FNJ
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:04 pm Reply with quote Back to top

PJX wrote:
joshwoodzy wrote:
Super R-Type. Come on people!

Why anyone would play Super R-Type when R-Type 1, 2, 3, Delta and Final exist is fking beyond me.


Because it was an early SNES game that came out around the time that we were all young kids first really sinking our teeth into games, and therefore it holds a nostalgic place in our hearts. This is especially true for the lot of us that simply enjoy playing games, and not holding our noses up at those who may not have the same expertise that others do.


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PJX
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:16 pm Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
PJX wrote:
joshwoodzy wrote:
Super R-Type. Come on people!

Why anyone would play Super R-Type when R-Type 1, 2, 3, Delta and Final exist is fking beyond me.


Because it was an early SNES game that came out around the time that we were all young kids first really sinking our teeth into games, and therefore it holds a nostalgic place in our hearts. This is especially true for the lot of us that simply enjoy playing games, and not holding our noses up at those who may not have the same expertise that others do.

My point was that they all do what it does, only much better. You'll get no snobbery from me.
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FNJ
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:22 pm Reply with quote Back to top

I know what your point was, and my point was that there are people out there who don't know that the other R-Type games are better. I certainly didn't.


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PJX
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:30 pm Reply with quote Back to top

SnesGuy wrote:
MUSHA is hard but i enjoy it, its on genesis

MUSHA's a great game, there's a sequel for Sega CD called Robo Aleste that's also great and even harder.
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JoshWoodzy
Joined: May 22 2008
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 08:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

FNJ wrote:
I know what your point was, and my point was that there are people out there who don't know that the other R-Type games are better. I certainly didn't.

Yeah, what this fine gentleman said. Super R-Type holds a special place in my heart.

Besides, by the time those others came out, I was getting vagina and becoming an adult.


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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 09:31 pm Reply with quote Back to top

You have a vagina?
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JoshWoodzy
Joined: May 22 2008
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 09:41 pm Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, I keep it in the kitchen to make me sandwiches.


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Blackout
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Joined: Sep 01 2007
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PostPosted: Feb 06 2011 09:48 pm Reply with quote Back to top

joshwoodzy wrote:
Yes, I keep it in the kitchen to make me sandwiches.

Well I guess that's better than making sandwiches out of it... Confused



 
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